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Hope in hell of miles upgrade?

Posted:
19 Jul 2006, 20:59
by AndyK
Evening V-Flyers
I'm booked in LHR-SFO-LHR next week, 'B' economy going out, 'L' Return. I had hoped to use miles to upgrade to Upper, however I'd long ago missed the reward seats online. Spoke to FC today, they reckon none will become available and there won't be a chance of doing so at the airport on the day. The main issue seems to be the outgoing flights, as all that's left is a few UC seats -
VS19 27/07 - J7 D7 Z7 W0 S0 K0 Y0 B0 L0 M0 Q0 X0 N0
VS20 01/08 - J7 D7 Z7 W6 S6 K5 Y7 B7 L7 M7 Q7 X7 N7
Based on this, would I have any chance of upping with miles on the day, or shall I just get in the mindset that I will be flying economy? Just curious from any of you that have upped on the day with miles before.
Many thanks
Andy


Posted:
19 Jul 2006, 21:19
by mike-smashing
In theory, revenue will look at the flight about one week beforehand, and decide how many additional G seats, if any, they will release.
Therefore the 27th should be released tomorrow or Friday, but it does look likely that both W and Y are busy and possibly oversold, so it may affect how many upgrades are released. Fortunately, J seems okay, so you could be in luck with upgrading.
The return will probably be released next Monday/Tuesday, and looks pretty open in all classes, given the number of fare buckets showing a "7". Only Premium seems to be selling through.
Cheers,
Mike

Posted:
20 Jul 2006, 00:06
by preiffer
The way I'd read it is that there's a HIGHER than normal chance of them allowing a mileage upgrade.
If Y (and W) are sold out, they're going to HAVE to move people up front, regardless (if their overselling calculations are a little out, that is). As a result, if someone's offering them either cash or miles (a recognised form of revenue) for the seat they'd otherwise have to give away, they'll *normally* gladly accept...

Posted:
20 Jul 2006, 01:14
by Littlejohn
Particularly if andy wants to upgrade all the way to UC. Upgrading into PE would presumably require someone in PE wanting to go up to UC, or an assumption that they need PE to UC op-ups

Posted:
20 Jul 2006, 18:50
by AndyK
Thanks for the input guys. Spoke to FC today, they've said there won't be any G availablility released before the flights and insist that I'll just have to try at the airpot. Fingers crossed!


Posted:
21 Jul 2006, 10:28
by RichardMannion
Hi Andy,
As per what Paul says - they'd rather take miles/cash than have to do an op-up. All I would say is try and get there early and ask for a mileage upgrade - they may be able to do it then, or they may wait until the flight has closed (60 mins before departure).
Thanks,
Richard

Posted:
21 Jul 2006, 11:29
by mcmbenjamin
Hope you get UCS on the return. You'll need the rest.

Posted:
24 Jul 2006, 18:49
by AndyK
Good point Ben!
OK well availability now shows as
J7 D7 Z0 W0 S0 K0 Y0 B0 L0 M0 Q0 X0 N0
It was Z6 literally 2 hours ago. So does this mean there are still 7 seats left in UC? If that is the case does it look I have a reaonable chance of upgrading with miles on the day?
Cheers

Posted:
24 Jul 2006, 19:07
by Pete
Not necessarily, it means there's seven or more seats available for sale in the J & D buckets. It may be seven, it may be more. Also, seats for sale and physical seats available are two different numbers. They may have already run out of seats and banking on seasonaly no-shows (although current thinking says they don't oversell Upper).

Posted:
24 Jul 2006, 19:35
by AndyK
Cheers Pix..so let's say theoretically there are, I don't know, 5 UC seats left when it comes to the day of the flight. If I get there for checkin open and ask to upgrade with miles from EC, would I stand a reasonable chance?
Thanks
Andy

Posted:
26 Jul 2006, 19:12
by AndyK
*Bump*. Still showing as J7 D7. Is that looking promising for miles upgrade tomorrow, I will be there for checkin open?
Thanks


Posted:
26 Jul 2006, 19:19
by preiffer
Excluding airport-released ones, there are:
14 unallocated seats in Upper
0 unallocated seats in PE
5 unallocated seats in Economy
J7 D7 Z0 W0 S0 K0 Y0 B0 L0 M0 Q0 X0 N0
I'd check you're not about to get a FREE one before spending the miles so readily... [:w]
If not, then yes - I'd say there's a chance of being able to upgrade with miles.

Posted:
26 Jul 2006, 20:54
by AndyK
Nice one, cheers Preiffer!


Posted:
27 Jul 2006, 09:42
by AndyK
Sweet. Upgraded fine, got seat 1k. Really friendly and helpful checkin agent. Availability for the return came up today so rang and booked that.
Pitying my OH who is joining me in SFO but has had to go via JFK on the VS003 as the 19 was booked, then onward with United to SFO.
Clubhouse is as excellent as always!

Posted:
27 Jul 2006, 10:25
by Littlejohn
Result!