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APD - Pay on the day

PostPosted: 12 Feb 2007, 14:20
by pem
Hello all

Has anyone paid the increased APD at the airport and still been given the discount voucher towards another flight ?
The Virgin Atlantic website infers the voucher is for advanced payment of the extra APD only.

If so, I could use my Virgin Amex card without incurring the paypal dollar conversion fee.

thanks

Paul

PostPosted: 12 Feb 2007, 15:21
by jaguarpig
This is on on the virgin-atlantic.com site now
IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR PEOPLE PAYING WITH AMERICAN EXPRESS CARDS
Virgin passengers will be unable to use their American Express Cards online at http://www.virginatlantic.com/greenorbrown to pay any outstanding Air Passenger Duty. Virgin passengers who wish to use their American Express Card to pay the additional duty can do so when they arrive at the airport.

Looks like I will be paying at check-in

PostPosted: 12 Feb 2007, 15:34
by DMetters-Bone
Looks like I will too! [y]

Seems organised chaos re the APD! [:o)]

PostPosted: 12 Feb 2007, 18:37
by jwhite9185
May seem like a stupid question - but what happens if you flat out refuse to pay?

PostPosted: 12 Feb 2007, 18:42
by infrequentflyer
May seem like a stupid question - but what happens if you flat out refuse to pay?



This?[:o)]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VlzsdA8wwo

PostPosted: 12 Feb 2007, 18:53
by daywalker
Originally posted by hairy114
May seem like a stupid question - but what happens if you flat out refuse to pay?

You won't be flying.

PostPosted: 12 Feb 2007, 18:57
by sunsational
Has there been a ruling yet as to whether this is legal yet?

Kaz

PostPosted: 12 Feb 2007, 19:55
by DMetters-Bone
Originally posted by infrequentflyer
May seem like a stupid question - but what happens if you flat out refuse to pay?



This?[:o)]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VlzsdA8wwo


[:o)][:o)] Another great example of FR customer service!!! [n]

PostPosted: 12 Feb 2007, 23:21
by goanmad
Surely if you have booked and paid for a ticket, thats it.

After all if you want to change certain tickets VS charge you for doing so!

It's all take, take.

PostPosted: 12 Feb 2007, 23:43
by honey lamb
Originally posted by goanmad
Surely if you have booked and paid for a ticket, thats it.

After all if you want to change certain tickets VS charge you for doing so!

It's all take, take.



The problem is, as has been discussed in other threads, that APD is a duty levied by the government not by the airlines. It has been applied retrospectively by the government but it is the airline that has the responsibility of collecting it.

Yes, it's all take, take but it is the government's take, take

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2007, 08:15
by pem
Hello All,

Thanks for the replies so far, but they still do not answer the original query.

If we use the Virgin Atlantic AMEX card to pay on the day (as Virgin now say we can do) will we still get the discount voucher ?

thanks

Paul

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2007, 16:11
by sky0000547
Originally posted by pem
Hello All,

Thanks for the replies so far, but they still do not answer the original query.

If we use the Virgin Atlantic AMEX card to pay on the day (as Virgin now say we can do) will we still get the discount voucher ?

thanks

Paul



I doubt you will get the discount voucher if paying on the day with AMEX. The reason for the discount voucher is to encourage people to pay before travel rather than causing chaos at check-in.

I have paid my APD using my other credit card. I just have to for go the £20 worth of miles to save myself and other people the hassle of paying on the day.

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2007, 17:54
by honey lamb
Originally posted by pem
Hello All,

Thanks for the replies so far, but they still do not answer the original query.

If we use the Virgin Atlantic AMEX card to pay on the day (as Virgin now say we can do) will we still get the discount voucher ?

thanks

Paul


See this response

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2007, 20:36
by RJD
The voucher is the airline's way of encouraging people to pre-pay and avoid as much chaos at the airport as possible. There have been some occasions where the staff at the airport have given out vouchers to those paying on the day however this shouldn't be happening so there's a pretty good chance you won't see it happen again.

By paying well in advance it saves so much time when you get to check in with your receipt in hand - green sticker and straight through rather than a wait that could be rather long. The queues each morning at LGW are still pretty massive for all airlines, given they are also still trying to sort out the cabin luggage/liquids restrictions.

PostPosted: 13 Feb 2007, 20:38
by stoneman
Originally posted by honey lamb
Originally posted by goanmad
Surely if you have booked and paid for a ticket, thats it.

After all if you want to change certain tickets VS charge you for doing so!

It's all take, take.



It has been applied retrospectively by the government but it is the airline that has the responsibility of collecting it.

Yes, it's all take, take but it is the government's take, take

Honey Lamb, as stated before, it is indeed a tax on the airline,NOT the passenger, so the airline DOES NOT HAVE TO COLLECT IT, they just have to pay it!! and on the same thread, how come fuel is the lowest it has been for 9 months, but the fuel levy is still being applied? [n][:?]

PostPosted: 14 Feb 2007, 13:36
by sky0000547
Originally posted by stoneman
as stated before, it is indeed a tax on the airline,NOT the passenger, so the airline DOES NOT HAVE TO COLLECT IT, they just have to pay it!!


At the end of the day, it is just like any other company, they pass their costs onto the consumers.

PostPosted: 14 Feb 2007, 18:20
by Lipstick
Originally posted by RJD
By paying well in advance it saves so much time when you get to check in with your receipt in hand - green sticker and straight through rather than a wait that could be rather long.


It isn't taking any longer in my opinion - the transaction for the APD is done alongside the regular check in transaction. I've not had to wait for anyone who hasn't paid!

But it is still best to pay in advance!!

But in answer to the OP, no, you wont get a voucher if you pay on the day. Anyone who has been given one on the day for not paying in advance was very lucky!

PostPosted: 15 Feb 2007, 23:00
by goanmad
Yeah, but the simple point is WHEN will we see the fuel surcharge removed or reduced?

Or the next time there is a fuel surcharge levied we will technically be paying two fuel levies and VA will be paying the same for fuel as they did when they implemented the first surcharge?

Certainly fuel prices have fallen dramatically, but we have not seen any reduction in fares to compensate?

Money, money, money.

PostPosted: 16 Feb 2007, 19:39
by sunsational
About the APD, I go in 25 days to MCO, there will be five of us, I have had no notification abouts paying. I booked last June(06). Any advice about what I could do? (Polite answers only please)OH and is anyone clear if this charge is actually legal yet.

Many thanks

Kaz

PostPosted: 17 Feb 2007, 20:13
by goanmad
When I flew back on 02/02/07 BOM - LHR should I have paid some APD??

No one asked for a payment?

Ian
Originally posted by sunsational
About the APD, I go in 25 days to MCO, there will be five of us, I have had no notification abouts paying. I booked last June(06). Any advice about what I could do? (Polite answers only please)OH and is anyone clear if this charge is actually legal yet.

Many thanks

Kaz

PostPosted: 17 Feb 2007, 20:31
by tallprawn
Originally posted by sunsational
About the APD, I go in 25 days to MCO, there will be five of us, I have had no notification abouts paying. I booked last June(06). Any advice about what I could do? (Polite answers only please)OH and is anyone clear if this charge is actually legal yet.

Many thanks

Kaz


Did you book with VH by any chance? If so, they will absorb the cost for you...:D

If not you should have to pay...:)

PostPosted: 17 Feb 2007, 21:43
by mitchja
Originally posted by goanmad
When I flew back on 02/02/07 BOM - LHR should I have paid some APD??

No one asked for a payment?

Ian


They wont, as you only pay APD on flights departing the UK.

Regards

PostPosted: 19 Feb 2007, 06:44
by catsilversword
Originally posted by honey lamb
Originally posted by goanmad
Surely if you have booked and paid for a ticket, thats it.

After all if you want to change certain tickets VS charge you for doing so!

It's all take, take.



The problem is, as has been discussed in other threads, that APD is a duty levied by the government not by the airlines. It has been applied retrospectively by the government but it is the airline that has the responsibility of collecting it.

Yes, but I understand that it's a tax imposed on the airlines, who have chosen to pass it on....

PostPosted: 19 Feb 2007, 06:46
by catsilversword
Originally posted by sunsational
About the APD, I go in 25 days to MCO, there will be five of us, I have had no notification abouts paying. I booked last June(06). Any advice about what I could do? (Polite answers only please)OH and is anyone clear if this charge is actually legal yet.

Many thanks

Kaz


It's all gone rather quiet with regards to the legality of this charge. The last I heard was that a legal challenge was being mounted - that was a couple of weeks ago.

PostPosted: 19 Feb 2007, 17:15
by AndyR
I booked a flight last week to leave in September. I take it the APD is already included in this?