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VS Clubhouses and smoking

Posted:
16 Apr 2007, 16:25
by AlanA
So, with July rapidly approaching, obviously the smoking areas in the LGW/LHR clubhouses will be gone.
Has anyone heard what VS will put into action for the smokers?

Posted:
16 Apr 2007, 16:33
by Darren Wheeler
Not sure what they can do. AFAIR there is no smoking in the roof garden at LHR and anywhere air-side would have to be open-aired to comply with the law. All I can see is a designated area land-side somewhere.

Posted:
16 Apr 2007, 16:43
by Decker
Well they could partially cover a section of the roof garden. What's the limit 50% cover?

Posted:
16 Apr 2007, 16:45
by Darren Wheeler
But are they allowed to air-side, jet fuel and all that?

Posted:
16 Apr 2007, 16:49
by Darren Wheeler
BAA website isn't very helpful either.
Gave up trying to do the link in a tidy format. [:(!]
Just go to BAA.com and search under smoking.

Posted:
16 Apr 2007, 17:17
by tallprawn
My favourite seating in the LHR CH is behind the bar area, which also happens to be half of the smoking area.
As a non smoker I usually have to sit at the bar and wait for a seat to come free in the smoke free side. I might be able to get a seat without waiting after July 1st...


Posted:
16 Apr 2007, 17:21
by MarkJ
Originally posted by AlanA
Has anyone heard what VS will put into action for the smokers?
How about a corrugated iron bus shelter somewhere near Slough??

Posted:
16 Apr 2007, 17:24
by Bazz
As the smoking area of the LHR CH affords one of the best aspects, I for one, will be pleased that the area is reclaimed for the non smokers amongst us. [}:)]

Posted:
16 Apr 2007, 17:42
by Darren Wheeler
Originally posted by MarkJ
Originally posted by AlanA
Has anyone heard what VS will put into action for the smokers?
How about a corrugated iron bus shelter somewhere near Slough??
What a waste of corrigated iron. Althoug it might improve Slough a bit. [}:)]

Posted:
16 Apr 2007, 18:06
by AlanA
Personally I have never smoked at all, never saw the logic in rolling up leaves in paper, setting fire to it and inhaling the resulting smoke.
My sister however and her hubby are 40 a day!
What about Gatwick?

Posted:
16 Apr 2007, 18:20
by honey lamb
Speaking (oh, well then, writing [ii] ) as someone who has lived with the smoking ban for three years since its inception over here one of the biggest problems is running the gamut of smokers outside public buildings as they merrily puff away. You can smell them yards away so you could still smell them from Slough.
A study just completed over here has shown that there is a significant improvement in the health of workers in places like pubs since the introduction, but a word of warning fo one of the downsides of the smoking ban, especially in pubs.......
......it was rapidly discovered that the smell of cigarette smoke had previously masked other *ahem* smells [:I] especially towards the end of the night

Posted:
16 Apr 2007, 18:24
by Darren Wheeler
I see. the smell of the kebab van outside[?]

Posted:
16 Apr 2007, 18:29
by honey lamb
Originally posted by Darren Wheeler
I see. the smell of the kebab van outside[?]
After the kebabs had been eaten

Posted:
16 Apr 2007, 18:34
by Darren Wheeler
LOL. Nice. Must be all that Guinness.

Posted:
16 Apr 2007, 19:44
by slinky09
Originally posted by MarkJ
Originally posted by AlanA
Has anyone heard what VS will put into action for the smokers?
How about a corrugated iron bus shelter somewhere near Slough??
Well, the sentiment is right - however as a wee smoker I find the little smoking room at the club house an absolute haven of civility in this increasingly mad world. I will be sad for it to go, but totally agree with all the sentiments that it is right to go, and life will be more pleasant for many.
Hope that all our foreign visitors know what's happening before they get stuck airside (btw that's one of the things I like about JFK/SFO/EWR is that the Clubhouse is landside, so one can nip out for a smoke ...

Posted:
16 Apr 2007, 22:32
by MarkJ
Originally posted by AlanA
What about Gatwick?
Corrugated Iron Bus shelter in Eastbourne?

Posted:
17 Apr 2007, 10:29
by VS045
How about a corrugated iron bus shelter somewhere near Slough??
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As the smoking area in the CH is, as Bazz said, in one of the best spots in the CH I will be very pleased to see it go. I too have never seen the point in smoking, but if you apply that logic of breaking something down into what it really is, you have to worry about the person who first discovered cow's milk

VS.

Posted:
17 Apr 2007, 11:31
by Scrooge
Well if they ban smoking in the CH I am done with LHR, with the mess that is LHR security you have to get there so early I will just plan my flights around the place, STN was great in this regards.

Posted:
17 Apr 2007, 11:34
by Bean Counter
Originally posted by Scrooge
Well if they ban smoking in the CH I am done with LHR, with the mess that is LHR security you have to get there so early I will just plan my flights around the place, STN was great in this regards.
But you won't be able to smoke in the taxi to STN, or the train, or underground, on in the check-in, or departures, before the gate, nor indeed on the plane, probably not at the arrival airport until you get outside. Then you won't be able to in the taxi home, and once you get home I expect you are banned from doing it in the house.
Do you get a hint?;)

Posted:
17 Apr 2007, 12:03
by P-L-U
As far as I'm aware the BAA are imposing a total blanket ban on smoking at the airports.

Posted:
17 Apr 2007, 13:00
by Bazz
Dave, just in case you have not picked up on this fully, IIRC from July 1st 2007 smoking will be banned in all enclosed public places in England - so Stansted will be the same as LHR.
Link

Posted:
17 Apr 2007, 13:03
by Scrooge
True, bit at STN you don't have to stand in line for an hour to get through security and then race to the other side of the planet to get to a gate, fast track at STN works well, it takes maybe 5-10 mins from there to the gates...all in all another reason not to go through LHR if you get where I am coming from.

Posted:
17 Apr 2007, 13:08
by AlanA
Originally posted by Bazz
Dave, just in case you have not picked up on this fully, IIRC from July 1st 2007 smoking will be banned in all enclosed public places in England - so Stansted will be the same as LHR.
Link
Yes it also includes company cars which are used by more than one person.

Posted:
17 Apr 2007, 13:17
by ade99
Just a quick question - don't know if there are any immigration experts on here, but when you're airside and thro passport control aren't you sort of in no-mans land having perhaps left the country aleady???
Plus another observation if there is going to a complete blanket ban then I can see a lot of smokers leaving it till the last minute before confining themself either air side or on the plane and that could well lead to more delays for us why they try and find them or their bags.
Not that I'm saying it's right but just a couple of thoughts.

Posted:
17 Apr 2007, 13:32
by AlanA
Originally posted by ade99
Just a quick question - don't know if there are any immigration experts on here, but when you're airside and thro passport control aren't you sort of in no-mans land having perhaps left the country aleady???
Plus another observation if there is going to a complete blanket ban then I can see a lot of smokers leaving it till the last minute before confining themself either air side or on the plane and that could well lead to more delays for us why they try and find them or their bags.
Not that I'm saying it's right but just a couple of thoughts.
I don't think so Ade as it is patrolled and manned by UK police etc.. rather like the aircraft is UK soveriegn territory.