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VS 346 Go-Around at Boston

PostPosted: 19 Jul 2010, 21:06
by Tinkerbelle
Not sure if anyone has seen this video from You Tube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNtWqsC9Z8g

Re: VS 346 Go-Around at Boston

PostPosted: 19 Jul 2010, 21:10
by tontybear
any idea why the go around was necessary?

Re: VS 346 Go-Around at Boston

PostPosted: 19 Jul 2010, 22:19
by Darren Wheeler
It did land hard.

Also, difficult to tell from the angle but at 1:16 there is a white service vehicle in shot. Somewhere it shouldn't have been?

Re: VS 346 Go-Around at Boston

PostPosted: 19 Jul 2010, 22:23
by slinky09
Did it land hard? There's no apparent reason in the video for the go around?

Re: VS 346 Go-Around at Boston

PostPosted: 19 Jul 2010, 22:41
by tontybear
is it just me or the angle but the wheels dont look fully deployed to me

Re: VS 346 Go-Around at Boston

PostPosted: 20 Jul 2010, 00:12
by Bill S
Looks like Long Island in the background so she's landing on 33L.
If its the normal landing time, winds had just started to gust to over 20kts W - that's over the autoland crosswind limit.
Ok for a manual landing but perhaps a sudden gust caught them out.

Always best to come down firmly with a cross wind.

Darren - It does look suspiciously like that truck was on the 27 which intersects with 33....but it could be on the service road - taken with a very long lens.

Touch and go clearly seen here

Re: VS 346 Go-Around at Boston

PostPosted: 20 Jul 2010, 09:15
by Scrooge
If you watch the video carefully, you'll notice that the aircraft touches down then goes straight back up into the air, very little time (a second maybe) on the ground.

What does this mean ?

Well simply, the decision had already been made to go around, it takes more than a second for the engines to respond to the pilots request for TOGA power (5 seconds is the maximum allowed)

If you watch it in 720P at the 7 second mark you will see the engines start to spool up, the aircraft does not touch down till the 10 second mark and is airborne again at 12 seconds, so 2 to 3 seconds to get the thrust and speed back up.

Why did it go around, well either something on the runway or simply the PIC wasn't happy with the way the landing was going.

Re: VS 346 Go-Around at Boston

PostPosted: 20 Jul 2010, 19:20
by willd
Great video.

I agree with Scrooge clearly something on the runway or PIC not happy.

Shame about the idiot's voice on the video!

Re: VS 346 Go-Around at Boston

PostPosted: 21 Jul 2010, 19:24
by flashh0
Hi its my first post so be gentle.........

Just listened to the ATC feeds for boston tower then boston departures according to the pilot he suffered from windshear on approach so called for a go around.

Yes I was sad enough to listen!!

Andy

Re: VS 346 Go-Around at Boston

PostPosted: 21 Jul 2010, 19:38
by Scrooge
Nothing sad about that Andy, welcome to the anorak section of the site.

Thanks for taking the time to listen to the ATC tapes.

Re: VS 346 Go-Around at Boston

PostPosted: 21 Jul 2010, 21:51
by Bill S
Hi Andy - welcome to the site.
LiveATC can be quite interesting!
(free registration required)

The METAR for the airport also tell a story.
You could see the wind effect as she lifts away.

Re: VS 346 Go-Around at Boston

PostPosted: 23 Jul 2010, 04:28
by lobbers
My wife and son were on that plane (Madame Butterfly)...but, 3 hours later for the VS12 BOS-LHR

Thanks for bringing those websites to my attention though. My office overlooks the approach for BOS and I watch the planes go past my window all day...now I can have a different soundtrack!

:-)