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About Virgin re-fitting its LGW/MAN 747's

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2010, 18:35
by oli5348
In response to all your comments and feedback regarding our Gatwick fleet, Virgin Atlantic is pleased to confirm it will be fitting it's fleet of Boeing 747 aircraft, with a new generation of Economy Seat and our latest Premium Economy cabin. We remain committed to offering the most innovative products to our passenger. That's a quote from Virgin's Facebook page

Our LGW/MAN refit will commence in 2011 and aim to have completed by 2012.
We are also currently reviewing our onboard inflight entertainment for our fleet in question.
That's a further quote from Virgin's Facebook page

Re: About Virgin re-fitting its LGW/MAN 747's

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2010, 18:44
by StillRedHot
Can't seem to find this anywhere!

Re: About Virgin re-fitting its LGW/MAN 747's

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2010, 18:48
by Darren Wheeler
I cannot find it on VS's Facebook page recently. This was announced at the beginning of the year.

What's the date for the announcement?

Re: About Virgin re-fitting its LGW/MAN 747's

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2010, 18:49
by Nottingham Nick
Please tell me the quote isn't a direct cut and paste.

Surely, no one writing officially on behalf of the airline would use an apostrophe here? -
....it will be fitting it's fleet of Boeing 747 :0 :w

Nick

Re: About Virgin re-fitting its LGW/MAN 747's

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2010, 18:57
by Scrooge
And if it is a direct copy and paste please provide a link.

Re: About Virgin re-fitting its LGW/MAN 747's

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2010, 19:38
by CHill710
found it!

that is a quote from a wall post made on the VS facebook page at 16:35 on the 23rd febuary
LINK HERE

Re: About Virgin re-fitting its LGW/MAN 747's

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2010, 20:16
by oli5348
I didn't get it from Facebook

Re: About Virgin re-fitting its LGW/MAN 747's

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2010, 20:18
by CHill710
... but that is where it originally came from.

(edited after above post changed)

Re: About Virgin re-fitting its LGW/MAN 747's

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2010, 21:03
by honey lamb
I don't think it is being very helpful posting something which appeared on Facebook nearly 10 months ago. The refits have been discussed intermittently as more information has come out with regard to new aircraft coming on board and it is not as if it is new information. It could be seen as misleading for people who may think it is an update on the original information.

I also have an issue with regard to copying and pasting from the VS Facebook page. Does it breach copyright when it is taken from a social network site? V-Flyer is very clear about copyright and as Scrooge has already said, posters should link to the article and not copy and paste

Re: About Virgin re-fitting its LGW/MAN 747's

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2010, 21:32
by oli5348
I didn't get it from Facebook I got it from http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic- ... orida.html

Re: About Virgin re-fitting its LGW/MAN 747's

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2010, 21:55
by Darren Wheeler
oli5348 wrote:I didn't get it from Facebook I got it from http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic- ... orida.html



The point about copy/paste still stands, regardless of someone already having done it from Facebook to TripAdvisor.

Re: About Virgin re-fitting its LGW/MAN 747's

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2010, 21:58
by tontybear
Oli

It would have helped if you had included that link in your original post then people can assess the source of the information and its relavance today as well as its timliness (or not)

What you posted clearly states
That's a quote from Virgin's Facebook page


plus
That's a further quote from Virgin's Facebook page



that is how people have assumed you got it from FB by those two mentions.

giving the link to the source (even if you just quote from part of it - AND you should also clearly state you are quoting) is simply good manners and gives people the proper recognition for the information they have posted.

This may sound like nit picking but there is an etiquette to these sorts of things.

Re: About Virgin re-fitting its LGW/MAN 747's

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2010, 23:13
by honey lamb
tontybear wrote:Oli

It would have helped if you had included that link in your original post then people can assess the source of the information and its relavance today as well as its timliness (or not)

What you posted clearly states
That's a quote from Virgin's Facebook page


plus
That's a further quote from Virgin's Facebook page



that is how people have assumed you got it from FB by those two mentions.

giving the link to the source (even if you just quote from part of it - AND you should also clearly state you are quoting) is simply good manners and gives people the proper recognition for the information they have posted.

This may sound like nit picking but there is an etiquette to these sorts of things.

While it's true that there is an etiquette, it's more than that since breach of copyright is an infringement of copyright laws and subject to penalties. It has been policy on VF therefore to link rather than copy and paste

Re: About Virgin re-fitting its LGW/MAN 747's

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2010, 23:30
by willd
honey lamb wrote: Does it breach copyright when it is taken from a social network site?


Yep it show does. The legislation does not differentiate with regard to social network sites so therefore its covered by the usual copyright rules.

I would love to be corrected but something about Oli strikes me as rather fishy, his posts over the last few days have all been rather odd and could be construed as attempting to create a bit of anger amongst us regular posters.

Re: About Virgin re-fitting its LGW/MAN 747's

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2010, 23:50
by honey lamb
willd wrote:
honey lamb wrote: Does it breach copyright when it is taken from a social network site?


Yep it show does. The legislation does not differentiate with regard to social network sites so therefore its covered by the usual copyright rules.

I would love to be corrected but something about Oli strikes me as rather fishy, his posts over the last few days have all been rather odd and could be construed as attempting to create a bit of anger amongst us regular posters.

Thanks for that, willd. I was hoping that one of our lawyers on board would come and clarify that.

I'm inclined to be a bit more generous about Oli and think he is someone who is trying to make his mark on the site as a newby by trying to start debates on subjects but hasn't checked to see if they have been discussed, which of course they have.

Re: About Virgin re-fitting its LGW/MAN 747's

PostPosted: 16 Dec 2010, 00:02
by Scrooge
And as sites are becoming more and more stringent on copyright the least we can do is link to them.

Please everyone be careful when copying and pasting, please check with the originating site that they actually allow it, there are a number of lawsuits going on right now here in Vegas involving this.

On that note, though they are rare, anything copy and pasted from the Las Vegas Revue Journal will be deleted immediately, just a warning on that one :D