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Restrictions on using a Kindle....?

PostPosted: 09 May 2011, 12:56
by MrsBear99
I assume I am right in thinking that Kindles are classed as an "electronic device" and therefore cannot be used during take off and landing?

Is there any truth in the statement that they "can interfere with the plane's navigational system"? I can understand how wi-fi or 3g enabled devices could interfere but if these systems are switched off, what could affect any on board systems?

Thx
MrsB

Re: Restrictions on using a Kindle....?

PostPosted: 09 May 2011, 13:00
by Pete
They are classed as electronic devices, so must be turned off for takeoff and landing. Whether they actually interfere with onboard systems is immaterial - they probably don't, but they have to be off.

Pete

Re: Restrictions on using a Kindle....?

PostPosted: 09 May 2011, 18:05
by tontybear
Its also a safety issue - imagine the plane has a bumpy landing or comes to a sudden stop and then before you know its out of your hands and flying through the air then its 'boink' either onto a hard surface or into a fellow pax head ... not good

Re: Restrictions on using a Kindle....?

PostPosted: 09 May 2011, 18:44
by rdm
I agree with tontybear re the potential safety issues, but the Kindle only uses power when "turning" between pages.

I've had mixed Views from CC doing their final checks before TO/landing - some have let me keep reading & others have asked me to turn it "off".

Re: Restrictions on using a Kindle....?

PostPosted: 09 May 2011, 19:18
by slinky09
tontybear wrote:Its also a safety issue - imagine the plane has a bumpy landing or comes to a sudden stop and then before you know its out of your hands and flying through the air then its 'boink' either onto a hard surface or into a fellow pax head ... not good


And a hardback book is, errrm, different how?

It's about time that these rules caught up with modern times.

I've had plenty of chats with FSMs who confirm that using electronic devices even with flight safety mode off does not cause a problem - although one said that in small numbers that's what they understand, but they are less certain if say on a packed jumbo everyone is using their device at once!

Re: Restrictions on using a Kindle....?

PostPosted: 09 May 2011, 19:36
by s1990
It would be interesting to find out the rules from a crew member on here! I was on an easy jet flight last week sat in row 1 on the left side so opposite 2 crew members and the person next to me used their kindle at both takeoff and landing and the crew said nothing! So is this an eu rule or airline rule?

Re: Restrictions on using a Kindle....?

PostPosted: 09 May 2011, 19:44
by slinky09
s1990 wrote:It would be interesting to find out the rules from a crew member on here! I was on an easy jet flight last week sat in row 1 on the left side so opposite 2 crew members and the person next to me used their kindle at both takeoff and landing and the crew said nothing! So is this an eu rule or airline rule?


Each country's aviation authority sets the rules - so in the UK it's the CAA and they apply to all UK-registered airlines.

This is why, for example, on EK and NZ or J2 (as examples) the IFE is permanently on from boarding to landing, because the authorities in those countries determine it is not an issue.

Now you can argue with the CAA's view, but VS has to enforce it. So I am surprised about EasyJet - perhaps there is some wriggle room or the crew were not paying attention ...

Re: Restrictions on using a Kindle....?

PostPosted: 09 May 2011, 20:56
by MrsBear99
I agree that is high time the policy was reviewed. I wa on a Ryanair flight recently and they are still referring to Sony Walkman's in their announcements :(

Re: Restrictions on using a Kindle....?

PostPosted: 10 May 2011, 07:06
by Guest
We are told that electronic readers (such as kindles) must be off when we are doing our cabin secure checks for take off/landing.

Re: Restrictions on using a Kindle....?

PostPosted: 12 May 2011, 13:20
by Tinkerbelle
slinky09 wrote:And a hardback book is, errrm, different how?


Hence why if you are sat on an exit row reading a book you will be asked to put the book away whilst the crew seat opposite you is occupied. :P

Re: Restrictions on using a Kindle....?

PostPosted: 12 May 2011, 16:33
by slinky09
Tinkerbelle wrote:
slinky09 wrote:And a hardback book is, errrm, different how?


Hence why if you are sat on an exit row reading a book you will be asked to put the book away whilst the crew seat opposite you is occupied. :P


Rules is rules, and must be followed, I remain doubtful that this one is a vital one ... in the US there are many more thousands of flights a day than in the UK, and this is not a regulation.

Re: Restrictions on using a Kindle....?

PostPosted: 12 May 2011, 21:06
by SteveA
Agree with the comments above that this needs reviewing.

Personal experience on Virgin has been 80%+ ask me to turn it off.