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Virgin records pre-tax profit of £18.5m

PostPosted: 10 Aug 2011, 10:25
by nguba
Pre-tax profit of £18.5m
Revenues increased 13% to £2.7bn
£100m investment in products/services (though this seems to be on things already announced)

Full details here:

http://news.sky.com/home/business/article/16047114

Re: Virgin records pre-tax profit of £18.5m

PostPosted: 10 Aug 2011, 10:31
by slinky09
That's very good news, slim but good. Be pleased to see some of that investment spent onboard esp. grub, but good all the same and I hope the full year is better.

Re: Virgin records pre-tax profit of £18.5m

PostPosted: 10 Aug 2011, 15:34
by Darren Wheeler
I'm guessing that some of the £100m is earmarked for the refits.

Re: Virgin records pre-tax profit of £18.5m

PostPosted: 10 Aug 2011, 16:16
by voyagerweb
I'm guessing that some of the £100m is earmarked for the refits.


I wonder if this is an extra £100m though, because most of the £100m would be taken up on refits, its going to be costly, if they want new IFE that means new seats for the entire refit would cost tens of thousands.

Re: Virgin records pre-tax profit of £18.5m

PostPosted: 10 Aug 2011, 17:23
by Luke085
Good news.

Is the article referring to VH regarding the UK Retail stores? The article otherwise seems to focus on VS. Are Sky News confusing the 2?

Luke

Re: Virgin records pre-tax profit of £18.5m

PostPosted: 10 Aug 2011, 17:25
by mitchja
I also presumed they meant VH and not VS.

Re: Virgin records pre-tax profit of £18.5m

PostPosted: 10 Aug 2011, 18:41
by voyagerweb
I also presumed they meant VH and not VS.


VH have opened lots of shops in Debenhams stores.

Re: Virgin records pre-tax profit of £18.5m

PostPosted: 10 Aug 2011, 21:04
by nguba
Steve Ridgway is quoted in the Financial Times on the results. He seems to play down the appointment of Deutsche Bank to carry out a strategic review and had no comment on potential deals with Delta et al.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c1a4632c-c35a ... z1UTfG7vxe

Re: Virgin records pre-tax profit of £18.5m

PostPosted: 11 Aug 2011, 22:27
by mcmbenjamin
According to VS's website, Virgin Atlantic carries '5m and 6m {passengers}each year'.

Using the mean of 5.5m: VS makes a profit of GBP3.36/passenger.

Question: Does anyone know how a fuel surcharge (YQ) is handled under IFARs or UK accounting rules? I have a feeling that the YQ might be outside the revenue number...

Re: Virgin records pre-tax profit of £18.5m

PostPosted: 12 Aug 2011, 09:11
by nguba
mcmbenjamin wrote:Question: Does anyone know how a fuel surcharge (YQ) is handled under IFARs or UK accounting rules? I have a feeling that the YQ might be outside the revenue number...


It might be in a separate line as "other revenue" but the fuel surcharge would be accounted for as revenue.

Re: Virgin records pre-tax profit of £18.5m

PostPosted: 12 Aug 2011, 10:09
by tontybear
nguba wrote:
mcmbenjamin wrote:Question: Does anyone know how a fuel surcharge (YQ) is handled under IFARs or UK accounting rules? I have a feeling that the YQ might be outside the revenue number...


It might be in a separate line as "other revenue" but the fuel surcharge would be accounted for as revenue.


Yes it would be accounted for in revenue because it IS revenue. The money goes to VS to pay for fuel which is an operating cost.

There is no way that it cannot be accounted for in the VS account.

Re: Virgin records pre-tax profit of £18.5m

PostPosted: 12 Aug 2011, 16:03
by mcmbenjamin
Thanks! I was thinking there might be a trick in accounting for the revenue.