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Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 04 Mar 2013, 18:28
by lspoor
I'm off to New York on the 31st and it says I'll get the 4958 miles from the flight and received 2000 from joining the FC too. When will I actually receive these 4958 miles? And can I upgrade at the airport to PE using miles + cash?

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 04 Mar 2013, 18:45
by Blacky1
I think you only receive the miles once the flight has been completed
Blacky

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 04 Mar 2013, 18:46
by lspoor
Blacky1 wrote:I think you only receive the miles once the flight has been completed
Blacky

Thats a shame, any idea on if I can use miles + cash for a PE upgrade at the airport though?

Cheers,

Luke

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 04 Mar 2013, 18:56
by Blacky1
It all depends on what type of economy ticket you have,if you go to manage my booking it will tell you the class of your ticket ,then go to toolbox and select fare codes and it gives you a breakdown of what you can and can't do with your ticket
Blacky

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 04 Mar 2013, 18:57
by lspoor
Blacky1 wrote:It all depends on what type of economy ticket you have,if you go to manage my booking it will tell you the class of your ticket ,then go to toolbox and select fare codes and it gives you a breakdown of what you can and can't do with your ticket
Blacky

Brilliant, Fare Code 'O'. How I managed to get a discounted ticket I don't know. It was bloody expensive!

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 04 Mar 2013, 19:26
by Neil
A full fare economy ticket can easily cost £1200 which is why your O class ticket is counted as discounted.

Technically an O fare cannot be upgraded with miles, only cash, however it doesn't harm to ask on the day, although prepared for a no, or them to request you pay to move to an upgradable fare, which on the day might not be cheap.

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 04 Mar 2013, 19:38
by lspoor
Neil wrote:A full fare economy ticket can easily cost £1200 which is why your O class ticket is counted as discounted.

Technically an O fare cannot be upgraded with miles, only cash, however it doesn't harm to ask on the day, although prepared for a no, or them to request you pay to move to an upgradable fare, which on the day might not be cheap.

Thanks for that Neil, as you said no harm in asking! I will be doing OLCI to try and snap one of the upper deck economy seats if I can. Bring on T-24.

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 04 Mar 2013, 20:03
by Blacky1
Haven't been on a refurb yet but I think you will be fine if you get a seat in the bubble
Blacky

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 04 Mar 2013, 20:08
by Blacky1
Forget my refurb comment ,just realised you are going to NY but obviously there are Eco seats upstairs on the LHR 747s,are you on vs 45?
Blacky

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 04 Mar 2013, 20:12
by lspoor
Sorry I'm flying into Newark (VS001) but flying out from JFK (VS046).

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 04 Mar 2013, 21:18
by lspoor
Can hope though. Reading a trip report here. A fellow flyer who flew VS046 managed to get offered a PE upgrade (reasonable price) on an O fare ticket! - forum/index.php?f=6&t=270940&rb_v=viewtopic

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 04 Mar 2013, 21:33
by ratechaser
lspoor wrote:Can hope though. Reading a trip report here. A fellow flyer who flew VS046 managed to get offered a PE upgrade (reasonable price) on an O fare ticket! - forum/index.php?f=6&t=270940&rb_v=viewtopic


When you're at the airport though it makes no difference what fare code you're on within economy - if they are selling upgrades because of available space, they will be a fixed price - varies a bit by route, but £200-250 is fairly normal for a one way PE upgrade.

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 04 Mar 2013, 21:33
by Blacky1
Well good luck and do let us know the outcome.
Welcome to v flyer by the way
Blacky

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 05 Mar 2013, 10:47
by lspoor
Can anybody find out how many PE seats are left on the VS001 flight on 31st March at 16:15?

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 05 Mar 2013, 11:02
by tontybear
lspoor wrote:Can anybody find out how many PE seats are left on the VS001 flight on 31st March at 16:15?


If you do an availability search on www. Flightstats.com you will get an indication but just because there may be seats available does not automatically mean upgrades will be offered.

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 05 Mar 2013, 11:12
by lspoor
tontybear wrote:
lspoor wrote:Can anybody find out how many PE seats are left on the VS001 flight on 31st March at 16:15?


If you do an availability search on www. Flightstats.com you will get an indication but just because there may be seats available does not automatically mean upgrades will be offered.

Only letting me go to a departure date of 8th march, I fly 31st march :(

Okay nevermind, found it. Providing flightstats uses Business at Virgin's PE, theres 9 left it says.

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 05 Mar 2013, 11:28
by Sealink
To add further complication to that, airlines res systems will only ever show a maximum of 9 seats. Even if there are 49.

My first flight on Virgin was in Y to New York and I loved it. Be prepared not to be able to upgrade, but still remember to enjoy the flight!

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 05 Mar 2013, 11:42
by tontybear
lspoor wrote:
Okay nevermind, found it. Providing flightstats uses Business at Virgin's PE, theres 9 left it says.


PE is included in economy / coach - look for the number next to 'W'
But that will only give an indication. It is the number of tickets VS is prepared to sell not necessarily the number of seats available

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 05 Mar 2013, 11:59
by lspoor
Sealink wrote:To add further complication to that, airlines res systems will only ever show a maximum of 9 seats. Even if there are 49.

My first flight on Virgin was in Y to New York and I loved it. Be prepared not to be able to upgrade, but still remember to enjoy the flight!

You say in Y which is the best economy class but you're still sat in economy like all others, whats the difference??

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 05 Mar 2013, 12:11
by joeyc
lspoor wrote:You say in Y which is the best economy class but you're still sat in economy like all others, whats the difference??


Each class is split into a series of fare codes also called buckets.... they don't differ in onboard service offered but the T&Cs that govern them do differ - some can be upgraded with miles, some cancelled and given a full refund, some cannot be changed or cancelled etc... check out the fare codes section in the toolbox of this site for a rough guide on the terms of each fare code.

Welcome to the site btw 8D

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 05 Mar 2013, 12:15
by Sealink
lspoor wrote:
Sealink wrote:To add further complication to that, airlines res systems will only ever show a maximum of 9 seats. Even if there are 49.

My first flight on Virgin was in Y to New York and I loved it. Be prepared not to be able to upgrade, but still remember to enjoy the flight!

You say in Y which is the best economy class but you're still sat in economy like all others, whats the difference??


No difference. Y is an abbreviation for the whole economy cabin.

Re: Miles Upgrade

PostPosted: 05 Mar 2013, 14:41
by honey lamb
And remember that if it says W9 S9 K9 ( the three buckets in PE, it does not mean there are 27 seats. What it means is that there are at least nine seats available for sale in PE and may be sold in all three buckets. As you get nearer to the date of the flight you may see (for example) W9 S6 K0. This means that no seats are available at the K price since this is a restricted APEX fare, but that 6 seats of the at least 9 seats may be sold at the S fare price . |:)