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VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
12 Jul 2013, 07:29
by voyagerweb
Gatwick has a flight departing at 13:10 to Cancun with flt no: 9929, seems an unusual movement and flight number
Any ideas ?|
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
12 Jul 2013, 07:37
by slinky09
CUN is still only x3 a week scheduled (surprised not more by now) so maybe an additional charter flight?
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
12 Jul 2013, 08:41
by Neil
Yep, will be a charter.
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
12 Jul 2013, 08:59
by FLYERZ
Was at Gatwick yesterday and noticed there was another VS flight with similar flight number to Bangkok. How did this come about?
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
12 Jul 2013, 09:12
by Neil
FLYERZ wrote:Was at Gatwick yesterday and noticed there was another VS flight with similar flight number to Bangkok. How did this come about?
It is just travel companies/airlines/government etc chartering an a/c from VS.
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
12 Jul 2013, 10:41
by slinky09
The BKK trip was a Chelsea footie charter according to VS Source.
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
12 Jul 2013, 11:00
by gfonk
slinky09 wrote:The BKK trip was a Chelsea footie charter according to VS Source.
VS dont fly to Bankok though right?
so Chelsea chartered a VS plane to take them?
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
12 Jul 2013, 11:26
by virginboy747
Correct
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
12 Jul 2013, 11:53
by gfonk
virginboy747 wrote:Correct
wow :0 thats awesome. Money does indeed talk hey. wow
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
12 Jul 2013, 21:31
by horburyflyer
As others have said the VS9929 was a charter....I know someone who was on the flight. Its a corporate event in Cancun.
Jon
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
12 Jul 2013, 22:42
by voyagerweb
Thanks very much was operated by VLIP in the end, a good way to travel.
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
13 Jul 2013, 11:23
by PaulS
horburyflyer wrote:As others have said the VS9929 was a charter....I know someone who was on the flight. Its a corporate event in Cancun.
Jon
I suppose that's when you really find out your standing with the company seat 6 or row 66 ):
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
13 Jul 2013, 12:17
by tontybear
gfonk wrote:virginboy747 wrote:Correct
wow :0 thats awesome. Money does indeed talk hey. wow
A charter can be just as cheap as buying normal tickets but has other advantages for them as well - more tailored schedule, cargo hold for equipment etc etc.
Chelsea, Man U and England have all chartered from VS as do the NHL teams who come over for the annual match at Wembley.
Depending on the destination and the numbers traveling the Government also charters VS (and BA) to take the PM to various summits
About 5 years ago the organiaation I worked for spent £40k to hire a train to take 700 staff to Birmingham (and back !) there was a letter in the papers saying we should have just bought virgin saver tickets. Ignoring the fact that there was no chance of getting cheap tickets in the rush hour (or 700 of them) the special charter actually worked out cheaper.
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
13 Jul 2013, 13:13
by gfonk
tontybear wrote:A charter can be just as cheap as buying normal tickets but has other advantages for them as well - more tailored schedule, cargo hold for equipment etc etc.
About 5 years ago the organiaation I worked for spent £40k to hire a train to take 700 staff to Birmingham (and back !) there was a letter in the papers saying we should have just bought virgin saver tickets. Ignoring the fact that there was no chance of getting cheap tickets in the rush hour (or 700 of them) the special charter actually worked out cheaper.
Thanks tontybear - Yes in that case it actually makes a lot of sense. I was thinking it would be a lot more to charter a commercial airlines jet.
I'm assuming then that the flight would still seem like a regular flight with VS staff as usual just the charteror has the entire plane to themselves?
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
14 Jul 2013, 11:27
by Fuzzy14
My current employer (20,000 employees) has a policy of no more than 4 employees on the same plane or train. I've had my arrangements changed before because someone in management has wanted on the same flight as me.
With the transfer value of that Chelsea team they must be paying one heck of an insurance premium to fly together.
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
15 Jul 2013, 20:46
by simonallardice
tontybear wrote:gfonk wrote:virginboy747 wrote:Correct
wow :0 thats awesome. Money does indeed talk hey. wow
A charter can be just as cheap as buying normal tickets but has other advantages for them as well - more tailored schedule, cargo hold for equipment etc etc.
Chelsea, Man U and England have all chartered from VS as do the NHL teams who come over for the annual match at Wembley.
Depending on the destination and the numbers traveling the Government also charters VS (and BA) to take the PM to various summits
About 5 years ago the organiaation I worked for spent £40k to hire a train to take 700 staff to Birmingham (and back !) there was a letter in the papers saying we should have just bought virgin saver tickets. Ignoring the fact that there was no chance of getting cheap tickets in the rush hour (or 700 of them) the special charter actually worked out cheaper.
Ahem...NFL dear Tonty, NFL.

Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
15 Jul 2013, 21:08
by tontybear
simonallardice wrote:Ahem...NFL dear Tonty, NFL. 
football (American), hockey - it's all overpaid men playing with funny shaped balls!
(yes I know ice hockey is played with a puck)
((and yes I have been to the Air Canada Center in Toronto for a tour!))
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
15 Jul 2013, 21:11
by simonallardice
tontybear wrote:simonallardice wrote:Ahem...NFL dear Tonty, NFL. 
football (American), hockey - it's all overpaid men playing with funny shaped balls!
(yes I know ice hockey is played with a puck)
((and yes I have been to the Air Canada Center in Toronto for a tour!))
You're quite correct!
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
15 Jul 2013, 21:13
by Miss G
Fuzzy14 wrote:My current employer (20,000 employees) has a policy of no more than 4 employees on the same plane or train. I've had my arrangements changed before because someone in management has wanted on the same flight as me.
With the transfer value of that Chelsea team they must be paying one heck of an insurance premium to fly together.
Why is that then? /nosey
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
15 Jul 2013, 21:16
by simonallardice
Miss G wrote:Fuzzy14 wrote:My current employer (20,000 employees) has a policy of no more than 4 employees on the same plane or train. I've had my arrangements changed before because someone in management has wanted on the same flight as me.
With the transfer value of that Chelsea team they must be paying one heck of an insurance premium to fly together.
Why is that then? /nosey
My previous company had the same policy and only had 300 employees, but then, they were/still are very paranoid.
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
15 Jul 2013, 21:23
by MrSquare
Miss G wrote:Fuzzy14 wrote:My current employer (20,000 employees) has a policy of no more than 4 employees on the same plane or train. I've had my arrangements changed before because someone in management has wanted on the same flight as me.
With the transfer value of that Chelsea team they must be paying one heck of an insurance premium to fly together.
Why is that then? /nosey
Miss G - bit of a failsafe policy. If you chartered an aircraft and put all of your top executives on it, and say that aircraft crashed and everyone onboard died - you'd have a very unsuccessful company in the coming days / months.
But the logic is, if you had only 3 employees on that crashed aircraft the company could still operate.
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
15 Jul 2013, 21:28
by Penny_L
so what happens when teams play overseas/european matches, do they all go on separate flights? And what about the team coaches/buses here in the UK they all travel together on those.
Where I work has the travel policy of no more than 5 travelling together, but it only applies to the top Execs & Directors
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
15 Jul 2013, 21:33
by tontybear
MrSquare wrote:Miss G wrote:Fuzzy14 wrote:My current employer (20,000 employees) has a policy of no more than 4 employees on the same plane or train. I've had my arrangements changed before because someone in management has wanted on the same flight as me.
With the transfer value of that Chelsea team they must be paying one heck of an insurance premium to fly together.
Why is that then? /nosey
Miss G - bit of a failsafe policy. If you chartered an aircraft and put all of your top executives on it, and say that aircraft crashed and everyone onboard died - you'd have a very unsuccessful company in the coming days / months.
But the logic is, if you had only 3 employees on that crashed aircraft the company could still operate.
And because of incidents like
this where 25 UK counter intelligence staff were killed.
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
16 Jul 2013, 00:13
by Fuzzy14
Oh you make me sound very important but I am just a tiny cog!
Yes it's incase my work looses a few members of staff in the one incident, could give us problems delivering a project (I work in oil industry so quite risk averse).
If anything it's a nightmare for the travel agent to police and by spreading your members of staff across different flights you are increasing the risk of losing one (but not all).
Besides if our Euromillions numbers come up there's 30 of us waking out the door, management included!
Re: VS9929 to CUN?

Posted:
16 Jul 2013, 09:04
by gfonk
Fuzzy14 wrote:Oh you make me sound very important but I am just a tiny cog!
Yes it's incase my work looses a few members of staff in the one incident, could give us problems delivering a project (I work in oil industry so quite risk averse).
OH true. Now looking back- the one and only time I have flown for business I we were on different flights. I assumed it was just to match peoples travel arrangements but who knows.
Fuzzy14 wrote:Besides if our Euromillions numbers come up there's 30 of us waking out the door, management included!
yes - i really need to start doing the lottery lol