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London Air Traffic Closed

PostPosted: 12 Dec 2014, 16:30
by Laphroaig
All SE of England Air Space just closed due to Computer Problems !

A power outage .... run out of 50 p's !

This could get messy !

:0 :0 :0

Re: London Air Traffic Closed

PostPosted: 12 Dec 2014, 16:38
by seany
This is where flying UC really does pay off (if one was about to depart), back to the CH for a few drinks and a burger...I love delays ):

Am I awful for that being my first thought? :|

Re: London Air Traffic Closed

PostPosted: 12 Dec 2014, 16:47
by Laphroaig
Fantastic Sean .....

Time for the Grey Goose Cocktails perhaps !.....

Going to be a stinker later on ... but if stuck anywhere... Clubhouse is the place to be. Just heard on News TV a BBC journalist on a plane out on the tarmac after initial taxi and now engines turned off !

Re: London Air Traffic Closed

PostPosted: 12 Dec 2014, 16:52
by McCoy
I just landed on a LR down from EDI about 15 minutes ago.

What was weird was that we parked at gate 104 (terminal 1), all got bussed around the corner, where we all had to get 'sniffed' by border patrol and a sniffer dog.

Now we're back on T2, waiting for bags. Odd.

Re: London Air Traffic Closed

PostPosted: 12 Dec 2014, 16:58
by Laphroaig
Not sure it is related McCoy .... a lot of issues at other airports but all appears to centre on a problem at Swanwick.

Re: London Air Traffic Closed

PostPosted: 12 Dec 2014, 16:59
by TomW
Closed until 7pm tonight, Nothing taking of from LGW, Stansted doesnt seem to be affected as much and LHR experiencing delays both in and out

Re: London Air Traffic Closed

PostPosted: 12 Dec 2014, 17:00
by McCoy
Well I assume we parked at T1, as if no flights can push back out of T2, there's nowhere to park.

But I've never had the sniffer dog game on a domestic before..

Laphroaig wrote:Not sure it is related McCoy .... a lot of issues at other airports but all appears to centre on a problem at Swanwick.

Re: London Air Traffic Closed

PostPosted: 12 Dec 2014, 17:06
by Daniel Armstrong
Perhaps an IT failure or perhaps something else - we will never know.

However, it is days like today I wish I was in the Clubhouse awaiting a nice flight to New York - especially with a delay. However, I guess a lot on the Easy Jet routes are not so happy!

Re: London Air Traffic Closed

PostPosted: 12 Dec 2014, 17:29
by Martin
Thank goodness I landed this morning. VS44 from Vegas breezed home to Gatwick in 9hrs 20mins and got us down before the money ran out in the ATC electricity meter!

Re: London Air Traffic Closed

PostPosted: 12 Dec 2014, 17:34
by TomW
Seems to be a few flights diverting to CDG, Strange as MAN said they will accept diverted flights

Re: London Air Traffic Closed

PostPosted: 12 Dec 2014, 17:43
by Trevski220
Virtually everything that has been said on the news is utter nonsense!!

Most certainly not a power outage, a computer problem that affected London area control but not London terminal control is what occurred, hence lower level flights being allowed to depart!!

I've honestly never heard as much clueless rubbish from so called "experts" as I have heard on sky news in the last hour.

Anyway system up and running and slowly returning to full capacity over the next few hours

Re: London Air Traffic Closed

PostPosted: 13 Dec 2014, 00:38
by honey lamb
Just a take on how it affected us on the ground so to speak. A family were flying over from London to attend the removal of their mother from the local funeral home to our local church (where I work in setting up such services). We had to delay that service for several hours to await their arrival (not a problem in that we were able to track when they potentially would arrive and factor that in their plans but I ate dinner at 9.30pm tonight!! :) )

Similarly, in another bereavement in the parish (but not coming to our church) they have had to delay matters. Sadly, (and yes, all deaths are sad but some are sadder than others) this involved a 12 year old girl who died of cancer and whose sister died at a similar age of cancer and so a whole lot of children from the school she attended until June and the ones in her new school since September have had to wait on for news until family members arrived. We Have all had difficulty to cope with this but the children more so.

We think of delays as to how they affect us (and I have to admit that when my flight from DUR to DXB last year was severely delayed to the extent I missed my connection, all I thought of was how it affected me. In fact it benefitted me as I was able to blag a connecting flight from LHR to ORK, my local airport instead of to DUB when I would have had to catch a train down home) However we rarely think of those caught up in a maelstrom of emotions since they are trying to get to significant occasions be they funerals, weddings, significant family events...

We were lucky in that we had the time, capacity and the goodwill of the main players to delay matters. Many would not be so lucky and may miss out on important family occasions which cannot be deferred.

Re: London Air Traffic Closed

PostPosted: 13 Dec 2014, 02:47
by NV43
honey lamb

I think that, sometimes, we all take things as granted; the death of a child is, without doubt, one of the most traumatic events that people will experience.

Family, and friends, must always be our priorities.

This afternoon / evening's chaos resulted in my ex-wife's departure to SIN, and onward to BNE, being delayed; at least, with the aid of FR24, v-flyer and a multiple of airline feeds I was able to reassure her that she is likely to make her connecting flight.

She was fortunate enough to be travelling CW, so avoided most of the misery in T5, but the information provided at LHR was seriously outdated.

A S. Sede in oratione petitur miserorum temporibus.

NV

Re: London Air Traffic Closed

PostPosted: 13 Dec 2014, 08:43
by sungod
the register has some info on what seems to have happened...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/12/12 ... c_control/

short outage, resilience hiccup, allowed safe operating margin reached, then the next layer of safety procedures go into effect and flights are diverted/delayed/cancelled

sounds like a professional, multi-layered approach, well planned and executed, not pleasant to be snarled up in, but they kept everyone safe

politicians are already grandstanding, but if they'd acted years ago to ensure adequate airport capacity then there wouldn't be travel chaos every time there's a short disruption in the system

Re: London Air Traffic Closed

PostPosted: 13 Dec 2014, 19:27
by Tinuks
I was supposed to be on the BA351. That got cancelled and I was rebooked onto th 349 which landed in the wee hours this morning.

Re: London Air Traffic Closed

PostPosted: 13 Dec 2014, 19:29
by Blacky1
Tinuks wrote:I was supposed to be on the BA351. That got cancelled and I was rebooked onto th 349 which landed in the wee hours this morning.


Good to hear you got back into the country relatively unscathed :)