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Fare codes

Posted:
16 Dec 2014, 21:40
by MoJoJo
Just been looking at fare codes and options. In the toolbox it says an Economy U fare code is not upgradeable however the VS website lists U as being able to upgrade
http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/gb/en/fl ... ights.html
Re: Fare codes

Posted:
16 Dec 2014, 21:54
by gumshoe
Given that an M is upgradeable, presumably a U is too.
It's not that long ago that L was the lowest upgradeable bucket though, so maybe the toolbox just needs updating.
Re: Fare codes

Posted:
16 Dec 2014, 22:44
by MoJoJo
I just wish H was which is what corporate travel just booked me in. Should of gone for the U same TPs and upgradeable :-(
Hey ho, it's an A333 anyway both legs and day flights
Re: Fare codes

Posted:
16 Dec 2014, 22:46
by MoJoJo
But... I do know there's G's available inbound and out so :-(
Re: Fare codes

Posted:
17 Dec 2014, 00:07
by tontybear
Remember that Corporate Tickets have their own set of rules.
A corporate 'H' might very well have different rules from a VS direct booking 'H' just as a VS 'H' is different from a DL 'H' even if plane is the same!
Re: Fare codes

Posted:
17 Dec 2014, 00:15
by MoJoJo
tontybear wrote:Remember that Corporate Tickets have their own set of rules.
A corporate 'H' might very well have different rules from a VS direct booking 'H' just as a VS 'H' is different from a DL 'H' even if plane is the same!
Yep... I know, checked with FC today although surprised they didn't pick up on the U option. Anyway, what will be will be, at least I'm not flying with a US carrier in EC!
Re: Fare codes

Posted:
17 Dec 2014, 14:25
by LovingGold
MoJoJo wrote:I just wish H was which is what corporate travel just booked me in. Should of gone for the U same TPs and upgradeable :-(
Hey ho, it's an A333 anyway both legs and day flights
Mojojo - Check at the check-in desk. My last flight back (Sunday) was an H and it was both upgradeable and changeable no fee, just any fare difference.
Not sure if VS have change the codes. It always used to a S fare bucket for me when I flew PE.
Re: Fare codes

Posted:
17 Dec 2014, 15:34
by MoJoJo
Thanks, will give it a go although the fare difference will be quite substantial!
Re: Fare codes

Posted:
17 Dec 2014, 18:36
by sungod
for a ticket booked via travel agent it's only W, Y and B that are upgradeable
i came a cropper a few weeks ago when i asked company TA to book me an M so that i could use miles to upgrade to UC at check-in
but VS would not allow it at check-in, only 'upgrade' option was to pay what seemed like full cost of PE or UC ticket, effectively my M was worth £0 even though company paid more than a lowest cost PE for it
in the words of FC...
Having checked your below booking reference I am able to confirm that you are travelling on what we call a nett fare. These are non-published ticket types such as discounted, corporate, travel agent or tour operator fares and can only be upgraded using miles in the following booking classes: W, Y and B.
Re: Fare codes

Posted:
17 Dec 2014, 20:39
by LovingGold
sungod wrote:for a ticket booked via travel agent it's only W, Y and B that are upgradeable
i came a cropper a few weeks ago when i asked company TA to book me an M so that i could use miles to upgrade to UC at check-in
but VS would not allow it at check-in, only 'upgrade' option was to pay what seemed like full cost of PE or UC ticket, effectively my M was worth £0 even though company paid more than a lowest cost PE for it
in the words of FC...
Having checked your below booking reference I am able to confirm that you are traveling on what we call a nett fare. These are non-published ticket types such as discounted, corporate, travel agent or tour operator fares and can only be upgraded using miles in the following booking classes: W, Y and B.
Those NETT fares are also known as IT fares I believe

- What I have found, I may have just been lucky a few times, if you get your Corp Travel agent to change, after a booking in confirmed, it removes it from the IT fare basis and becomes something else that is usable with miles................
Re: Fare codes

Posted:
17 Dec 2014, 20:59
by MoJoJo
Whether or not this is still valid I do not know but I came across this page earlier -
http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/gb/co ... grades.jsp So, I could ask corporate travel to upgrade my H for 20K of their miles but I know what response I will get to that!
Re: Fare codes

Posted:
17 Dec 2014, 21:17
by LovingGold
I am now a little confused. We do not use Flying Co, its 100% my flying club account and I can use my own miles and it was an H fare. It was defo. changeable as I changed the date of the return leg.
Have you tried calling VS and just asking if an upgrade is available for my booking of......??
Re: Fare codes

Posted:
17 Dec 2014, 21:59
by MoJoJo
Not yet, had intended too but back to back meetings today. It's in my list to call FC tomorrow.
At the end of the day though its day flights out and back to EWR and I still get CH access so it's not all that bad. I've managed to gets seats at the back in PE both legs, front row is blocked off, and it will do me good to check out PE for once... Or so I am telling myself :-/
Re: Fare codes

Posted:
17 Dec 2014, 22:03
by LovingGold
MoJoJo wrote:it will do me good to check out PE for once... Or so I am telling myself :-/
I have been telling myself that for day flights to East Coast for the last 6 months........
Not sure its working for me just yet
Still, its not Y and I should really be grateful

Re: Fare codes

Posted:
17 Dec 2014, 22:24
by MoJoJo
Having been subjected to BA WTP for a work flight earlier this year after a VS UC albeit a G I'm scared!!!!
Re: Fare codes

Posted:
18 Dec 2014, 11:26
by sungod
LovingGold wrote:Those NETT fares are also known as IT fares I believe
- What I have found, I may have just been lucky a few times, if you get your Corp Travel agent to change, after a booking in confirmed, it removes it from the IT fare basis and becomes something else that is usable with miles................
yes, at the check-in they also called it an IT fare
please can you explain a bit about what your TA does to remove the IT status? it sounds very interesting, i'd like to try it on an upcoming trip!
Re: Fare codes

Posted:
18 Dec 2014, 12:21
by LovingGold
sungod wrote:LovingGold wrote:Those NETT fares are also known as IT fares I believe
- What I have found, I may have just been lucky a few times, if you get your Corp Travel agent to change, after a booking in confirmed, it removes it from the IT fare basis and becomes something else that is usable with miles................
yes, at the check-in they also called it an IT fare
please can you explain a bit about what your TA does to remove the IT status? it sounds very interesting, i'd like to try it on an upcoming trip!
Hey sungod - I just have changed the date a few times, normally the return leg. What I have found is that everything I change a return leg, or the outbound, I have the ability to upgrade with miles at the airport. I guess your could book and then change the outbound, just need to make sure they have seats before hand!!
Re: Fare codes

Posted:
18 Dec 2014, 14:04
by MoJoJo
Checked and the H is not upgradeable. So, I have gone back to see if corporate travel will change the fare to the U and use my miles to upgrade to the G's showing for out and inbound
Re: Fare codes

Posted:
19 Dec 2014, 13:40
by LovingGold
Hmm,
That is interesting - Perhaps I just got lucky with Airport upgrades(???)
Should be defo. changeable tho as I have done that as well.
Re: Fare codes

Posted:
19 Dec 2014, 17:04
by sungod
i'm wondering if VS has changed something in it's clunky IT systems, perhaps in the past they weren't able to apply the upgrade rules at check-in?
in the past i did several check-in upgrades EC/PE->UC for miles on TA tickets, and i'm sure most were not on the fare codes VS says are the only TA ones that can be upgraded (W, Y and

i had a search back for an old booking, it showed i upgraded to UC on PE fare codes H and S, these were TA tickets
i've also done it on EC tickets, not sure of the fare code but they will have been the company TA default of non-flexible lowest cost