V-Flyer

My wife and I are flying on VS3 (LHR to JFK) on Thursday 7th April. We leave LHR at 09.05 and arrive at 11.50.

I would be very grateful for a load check if anyone is able to?

It's our first UC flight on VS. Can't wait.

VS 3 0 LHR
07/04/16 9:05 AM JFK
07/04/16 11:50 AM 346
Daily
72% / 19m J9 C9 D9 I9 Z9 W9 S9 H9 K9 Y9 B9 R9 L9 U9 M9 E9 Q9 X9 V9 N9 O9

David

Thanks. Is that quite an empty flight?

Could be.

Load checkers only show a max of 9 in any one particular class.

Upper for example is made up of J9 C9 D9 I9 Z9 .

That doesn't mean there are 36 seats to sell (but it potentially could do)

It means there at least 9 seat they can sell as a J (full fare, fully refundable, very expensive) at least 9 seats they can sell as a C (some restrictions on the fare) right through to at least 9 seats they can sell as a Z (very restricted, usually non refundable, but the cheapest)

Usually the more seats shown in the lower categories -ie Z - the more seats are available, as the lower priced seats tend to sell out first.

The only time you can tell the flight is full is when J is showing 0 and the only time you can tell the flight is empty is, unfortunately when you walk onto it and find a huge amount of empty seats.

hope this helps

David

Indeed it does - thank you very much

David that is not correct.

You do not add up the numbers from the separate fare buckets in a cabin.

J is the main bucket and C/D/I and Z are all subsidiary to it.

So if a Z was sold (And VS decided not to add any more tickets to sell) it would change the numbers to J8 C8 D8 I8 Z8

If someone bought a fully flex J ticket then again all the rest would change to 8 it would not change to J8 C9 D9 I9 Z9

And it refers to the number of tickets VS is prepared to sell not the number of seats available in the cabin - they are not the same.

tontybear wrote:David that is not correct.

You do not add up the numbers from the separate fare buckets in a cabin.

J is the main bucket and C/D/I and Z are all subsidiary to it.

So if a Z was sold (And VS decided not to add any more tickets to sell) it would change the numbers to J8 C8 D8 I8 Z8

If someone bought a fully flex J ticket then again all the rest would change to 8 it would not change to J8 C9 D9 I9 Z9

And it refers to the number of tickets VS is prepared to sell not the number of seats available in the cabin - they are not the same.

Tonty

I didn't say you add up the numbers from the separate fare buckets in a cabin.

Infact I did say, "That doesn't mean there are 36 seats to sell (but it potentially could do)"

There potentially, depending on cabin configuration, could be 36 seats available as a Z fare if there hasn't been any sold on that flight.

David

<Pedant mode> The load check tells you the number of tickets that can be sold in a particular bucket not the number of seats left. </Pedant mode>

It's quite possible for a load check to show something like J1 C0 D0 I0 Z0 when every seat in Upper is already sold if historic norms indicate there will likely be a no-show. If that single J ticket is sold and everyone turns up then someone is going to be involuntarily downgraded.

JFK has a high proportion of business travellers therefore generates a lot of last minute UC sales and changes. The flight may, therefore, end up being busier than it looks right now - although as it's still Easter holidays for some schools that may mean fewer business travellers than normal.

According to expert flyer there are 15 seats left but more may become available at OLCI. Hope that helps

A seat map is not a reliable guide to a flight's load as a significant proportion of passengers do not select seats before check in.

Indeed, for example my LGW - HAV in Jun is J0 C0 D0 I0 Z0 but the seatmap stills shows 4 unallocated seats.