V-Flyer

Whilst listening to Radio2 earlier today caught the tale end of an interview with an aircraft seat designer, Talking about the launch of a new Ying Yang seat design in economy cabins.

Thought I would do some digging around and found this story in today’s Times Online.
Link Here

I quite like the sound of it but not sure if many people would like to travel in this sort of configuration.

This will be very interesting to see how the launch/unveiling goes next week. I wonder which airline will be the first to give the layout a go?

Heard it too on Chris Evans show, although they didnt allow the chap to talk for long enough about it did they?

I'd need to see a diagram to see how it really works, as i cant quite see where all the mooted extra pitch comes from - you'll still need aisle access for each passenger, but its certainly an interesting idea.

I thought the privacy screens and the inflated head/shoulder rest included in the mock up sounded great though, and i'm sure many regular Y travellers would love this simple improvement.

Thanks,
Sarah

I heard the feature on Chris Evan's show earlier, I have difficulty visualising it, and so won't pass judgement until I see it in action.

I know a fair few people, including my Wife - Sue, don't like travelling backwards on a train, so certainly won't be happy about going backwards on a plane.

Nick

Originally posted by HighFlyer
Heard it too on Chris Evans show, although they didnt allow the chap to talk for long enough about it did they?

Thanks,
Sarah

I only caught about 30 seconds whilst passing in earshot of the radio.

Will be quite a bonus if the extra leg room is mirrored on both facing seats although my initial though is that the extra leg room may be as a result of a shared space between the two facing seat amounting to less than the combined leg room of two standard forward facing seats. I may be wrong though and none of us will know anything for cert until the unveiling.

I hope itÕs an improvement on the beetles design put forward by Thompson Solutions; those seats just donÕt do it for me at all.

LINK TO BEETLE SEATS.

Cheers
Jerseyboy

Originally posted by jerseyboy

I hope itÕs an improvement on the beetles design put forward by Thompson Solutions; those seats just donÕt do it for me at all.

LINK TO BEETLE SEATS.

Cheers
Jerseyboy

eek! I hope not! maybe for something short-haul.....[xx(]

Originally posted by Juliet

Originally posted by jerseyboy

I hope itÕs an improvement on the beetles design put forward by Thompson Solutions; those seats just donÕt do it for me at all.

LINK TO BEETLE SEATS.

Cheers
Jerseyboy

eek! I hope not! maybe for something short-haul.....[xx(]

The Shorter the better.

Here is a better view of the seat link...it gets a big [n] unless the person facing me is..

A. Attractive
B. Has brushed their teeth

Honestly when flying BA club I choose my seats carefully as I don't want to face someone for that long.

When Southwest had the "club" seats it was fun for a short hop, or on a longer flight it gave me room to stretch my legs, but for an 11 hr LHR-LAX flight...no thanks.

Originally posted by Scrooge
Here is a better view of the seat link...it gets a big [n] unless the person facing me is..

A. Attractive
B. Has brushed their teeth

Honestly when flying BA club I choose my seats carefully as I don't want to face someone for that long.

When Southwest had the "club" seats it was fun for a short hop, or on a longer flight it gave me room to stretch my legs, but for an 11 hr LHR-LAX flight...no thanks.

On the bit or radio chat I caught the guy was talking about face to face dining with your partner so I assumed a face on face seat configuration with middle seat in opposite direction. This link though does not illustrate that.

DonÕt think I would enjoy this one bit at all. [:$]

On one of my first flights - I think to Rome on a charter - I was sitting in a backward facing seat and to be honest it was no different than being on a train.

Currently in the Aer Arann TR42s row 1 is backward facing and I have been dying to be allocated a seat in that row

According to this it seems Virgin Blue are considering such a design!

Before seeing the picture I thought it might be quite a good idea, but now I'm not so sure - seems a bit claustrophobic to me[xx(]

VS.

Originally posted by Scrooge
Here is a better view of the seat link...it gets a big [n] unless the person facing me is..

A. Attractive
B. Has brushed their teeth

Honestly when flying BA club I choose my seats carefully as I don't want to face someone for that long.

I see what you mean. That would be really invasion of my personal space. Side-by-side is OK, but nose-to-nose?? [V]

Just imagine the person opposite, fast asleep, jaw flapping, snoring away, while you try to eat....[n][n]

Yuk, no way just checked out the link. If Virgin were to introduce these seats, that would be us shifting allegiance elsewhere for sure [V]

thelaceys

I'm not keen. The Beetle design is better, though I can still imagine issues with personal space. I wouldn't mind so many seats facing backwards so families/friends could sit in groups, like on the railways. You would need the trays and entertainment screens to be stowed in the armrests though. I'm sure those seats would be unpopular with some but families with kids would like it.

Paul

Maybe half and half with the extra column in some areas offsetting greater pitch in others. You'd have to find a good balance between the two though.

VS.

I'm wondering what happens when everyone, forwards AND backwards, reclines... will everyone have to move to let the window person out? [?]

Good point, Juliet. This config does raise some practical implications; what happens during dinner service if two pax are in recline (and asleep) and the person at the window wants a meal[:?]

VS.

Originally posted by Juliet
I'm wondering what happens when everyone, forwards AND backwards, reclines... will everyone have to move to let the window person out? [?]

Oh good point..guess it's the climb over routine...same as now.

Originally posted by Juliet
I'm wondering what happens when everyone, forwards AND backwards, reclines... will everyone have to move to let the window person out? [?]

[:o)]

I had this image of someone trying to sashay their way out. Strictly Come Dancing anyone?

Not going to be overly practical for safety demonstrations as surely you'll need extra cabin crew facing various ways?
And what about emergencies where you stick you head between your legs?

I'm surprised no-one has come up with family seats like on trains. Probably woudn't take any more room and you can stretch your legs further.

Let's just be grateful South West Trains don't run an airline.