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Tube Strike

PostPosted: 08 Jun 2009, 22:35
by buns
Anyone planning to negotiate London between 6pm Tuesday and 6pm Thursday this week, needs to take into account a Tube Strike that now looks like it will go ahead[n][n]

buns

PostPosted: 08 Jun 2009, 22:36
by slinky09
quote:Originally posted by buns
Anyone planning to negotiate London between 6pm Tuesday and 6pm Thursday this week, needs to take into account a Tube Strike that now looks like it will go ahead[n][n]

buns


Oh I know, I live in South (sarf) London and was needing to be in Paris for a business meeting tomorrow. I postponed.

PostPosted: 08 Jun 2009, 22:37
by Nottingham Nick
Thanks for the heads up Andy. [y]

As long as TFL is all sorted for Friday, I can cope.

Nick

PostPosted: 08 Jun 2009, 22:44
by DMetters-Bone
I also live Sarf London, think I will be working from home that day!

For my 2c I think it is disgusting how they hold us all at ransom, considering they are all on a good wicket.....Grrrr it does annoy me!

Dominic

PostPosted: 08 Jun 2009, 22:45
by Guest
quote:Originally posted by buns
Anyone planning to negotiate London between 6pm Tuesday and 6pm Thursday this week, needs to take into account a Tube Strike that now looks like it will go ahead[n][n]

buns


Given the experience that London had to suffer over the last few times - I wouldnt expect services to be fully operational util mid way through Friday [n]

Hackneyguy

PostPosted: 08 Jun 2009, 22:47
by RichardMannion
Driving them tubes is stressful work.... so let me guess, wanting a payrise over and above the rate of inflation again?

PostPosted: 08 Jun 2009, 22:54
by buns
quote:Originally posted by RichardMannion
Driving them tubes is stressful work.... so let me guess, wanting a payrise over and above the rate of inflation again?

And a guaranteed job for life - no matter what mistakes you make or how committed you are to your job

[V][V]

PostPosted: 09 Jun 2009, 08:48
by slinky09
quote:Originally posted by buns
quote:Originally posted by RichardMannion
Driving them tubes is stressful work.... so let me guess, wanting a payrise over and above the rate of inflation again?

And a guaranteed job for life - no matter what mistakes you make or how committed you are to your job

[V][V]


And no changes to pensions and no doubt Krispy Kremes in the cab all day long. I can't help feeling Boris will make things worse ...

PostPosted: 09 Jun 2009, 10:21
by OxfordNick
Im still hopeful that it will be called off at the last moment - that has been the pattern for the two other strikes threatened this year (so far).

Having said that I am kinda interested to see how BoJo deals with this - he took a lot of heat over the shutdown of public transport when we had the snow earlier in the year & it might just be the time to call the RMTs bluff ; I don't see them getting any support or sympathy from the rest of the London workers at the moment.

PostPosted: 09 Jun 2009, 11:15
by HighFlyer
Tube strike starts this evening, though on my way into London this morning the Circle and District lines were both already out of action just after 9am. I'm travelling in to meet with a certain public transport company so the irony was not lost on me [:)]

Thanks,
Sarah

PostPosted: 09 Jun 2009, 11:20
by Guest
quote:Originally posted by HighFlyer
Tube strike starts this evening, though on my way into London this morning the Circle and District lines were both already out of action just after 9am. I'm travelling in to meet with a certain public transport company so the irony was not lost on me [:)]

Thanks,
Sarah


As is 'The Drain' - staff shortages the reason according to BBC London [:w]

Hope you get home OK Sarah

HG

PostPosted: 09 Jun 2009, 11:22
by Scrooge
quote:Originally posted by buns
quote:Originally posted by RichardMannion
Driving them tubes is stressful work.... so let me guess, wanting a payrise over and above the rate of inflation again?

And a guaranteed job for life - no matter what mistakes you make or how committed you are to your job

[V][V]


And cellphone towers set up in the tunnels so they can text while driving [:w]

PostPosted: 09 Jun 2009, 17:10
by PVGSLF
Time for the whole network to go driverless I reckon. It works well in many other parts of the world, and indeed on london's very own DLR.... Their days are numbered if you ask me!

PostPosted: 09 Jun 2009, 17:51
by Jacki
I've got a medical clinic to keep running ,so will be driving around London picking up and dropping off key workers to ensure we have the minimum staff required. The roads will either be empty because everyone has stayed at home or packed so not sure how much time to allow!

I'm all for sitting this one out and showing them we won't be blackmailed any longer.

PostPosted: 09 Jun 2009, 18:11
by Sealink
I don't want to start a political discussion about the rights and wrongs of strikes - I do think employees should have the right to withdraw labour if they feel pushed to it, end of.

I already know that the news will be of 'victims' trying, no, struggling, to get to work because of the evil selfish strikers, victims who work overtime and don't get paid for it, or work extra hours just because of the sheer love of the job (never ever because they fear for their jobs) and that tube workers will be the most hated people in London, perhaps taking over the mantle from paedo oops bankers now.

But there's a reason that I don't work on the tube, and it's not because I wouldn't pass the interview, it's because it's bloody tough: I've seen the sheer awfulness of the commuter in all its glory, and that in itself, is enough to make me think I am in no position to say they get paid enough. And neither do nurses but then maybe they need a better union.

PostPosted: 09 Jun 2009, 19:13
by tontybear
Apparently there had been a deal done on pay last night but at the last minute the RMT demanded the reinstatement of two staff who had been dismissed.

One had opened the doors on the 'wrong' side on the Victoria line then lied about various things to do with the incident (the first time it had ever happened on the years the 40 odd years Victoria line has been open).

The other had been dismissed for theft and is due to appear in court soon. (as reported in the evening standard).

Both had been dismissed using the proper disciplinary procedures that the RMT (and other unions) have signed up to.

Of the 10,000 staff in the RMT only about a third voted in the strike ballot.

PostPosted: 09 Jun 2009, 19:48
by slinky09
quote:Originally posted by Sealink
And neither do nurses but then maybe they need a better union.


Bloody right.

PostPosted: 09 Jun 2009, 19:57
by Sealink
quote:Originally posted by tontybear

One had opened the doors on the 'wrong' side on the Victoria line then lied about various things to do with the incident (the first time it had ever happened on the years the 40 odd years Victoria line has been open).

The other had been dismissed for theft and is due to appear in court soon. (as reported in the evening standard).

Both had been dismissed using the proper disciplinary procedures that the RMT (and other unions) have signed up to.



These sort of things make me annoyed.

PostPosted: 09 Jun 2009, 20:46
by Flashboy
Come on lets be Honest, Will anyone notice a disruption in service, They never run a full service anyway

Boris was a little amusing on 6pm News! Pure Quality

PostPosted: 09 Jun 2009, 21:09
by miopyk
Just seen this thread and checked the BBC and to be honest it is unclear if this strike is on or off. Can anyone confirm one way or the other as I'm due to attend a meeting in Kensington tomorrow and don't want to be late.

Thanks

Miopyk[8D]

Sorry, just answered my own question BBC site now has strike confirmed.

PostPosted: 09 Jun 2009, 22:04
by Sealink
RMT strike action

The RMT union strike started at 19:00 on Tuesday 9 June. Tube services will not return to normal until Friday morning 12 June. We will keep as many stations open and as much of the service running as possible. However, all lines are affected and some may have limited or no service. Read more
Oyster pay as you go is being accepted on National Rail journeys in Greater London.

PostPosted: 10 Jun 2009, 05:57
by Jacki
I was at a family get together at the weekend and my cousin who has three very small children has been asked to take a 20% pay cut to avoid redundancy. This is the reality across the UK with many employees having to accept reduced terms and conditions to avoid businesses going under.

The RMT union and its members need to accept that in the present economic climate jobs for life and guaranteed annual pay increases are not possible.

Rant over - now I have to try and get into work.

PostPosted: 10 Jun 2009, 11:00
by PVGSLF
Let's remember not to Tar all Tube Workers with the same brush.
Good Service on the Northern line this morning, and some kind of service on the Victoria, so a big thank you to those that are working. [y] Especially since my Plan B was scuppered by a signal meltdown in the watford area cancelling all the trains on the West London Line. I was only 20mins later than normal in the end, and that was due to signal rather than tube problems.

Now then the real question is what the hell did they spend the 10 billion on for the WCML upgrade? As it sure wasn't a reliable signalling system.

PostPosted: 10 Jun 2009, 21:54
by buns
quote:Originally posted by PVGSLF
Let's remember not to Tar all Tube Workers with the same brush.
Good Service on the Northern line this morning, and some kind of service on the Victoria, so a big thank you to those that are working. [y] Especially since my Plan B was scuppered by a signal meltdown in the watford area cancelling all the trains on the West London Line. I was only 20mins later than normal in the end, and that was due to signal rather than tube problems.

Now then the real question is what the hell did they spend the 10 billion on for the WCML upgrade? As it sure wasn't a reliable signalling system.


I second that[y][y]

A colleague of mine turned up at Wimbledon this morning to see a Tube Train there and virtually had it to himself up to West Brompton[:0]

Mrs Buns travelled to Canary Wharf on the Jubilee Line as normal

Well done the silent majority

buns

PostPosted: 19 Jun 2009, 00:37
by platinumleo
I am sorry to read that once again the ramblings of the Evening Standard have crept in to even here!