V-Flyer

Knowing my track record, this has probably already been posted elsewhere (and probably from the Daily Mail) but I saw this in the Telegraph today. Better than a slap in the face with a damp herring, I guess...

Gimme a break.

So this government is about to slap me with a significant tax rise from 1 April and we're worried about a few quid on a flight.

Jeez. I could take 300 flights or more next year to counter the now cancelled tax increase.

Mealy mouthed or what.

Oh, did that sound sour! Well I am. And while the government reaps the rewards of more VAT on fuel it spins that it's going to not INCREASE duty any more, and that's a good thing. Well I for one can see through that falsehood.

I have a pay freeze and with the starting point of the higher rate tax band being lowered I will pay more in tax with no pay rise and so I will be worse off. I am lucky but a colleague who works with me will be more worse off because as they are now a higher rate tax paper they will loose their child benefit!

And as for only Labour 'hiding' tax increases by increasing NIC they are having a laugh. The Tories did exactly the same (and worse).

And as for this supposed Labour planned increase in APD well if it was planned then VS havn't included it in their fares. So wll they be collecting it from pax at check-in?

tontybear wrote:And as for only Labour 'hiding' tax increases by increasing NIC they are having a laugh. The Tories did exactly the same (and worse).

Not only that, if they're combining tax & NIC as just a Tax %age with only the personal tax allowance, you won't benefit from the Lower earnings limit that you don't pay NIC on (£139pw in 2011/12) - neither will you pay only 1% NIC above the Upper Earnings Limit (£817 in 2011/12) - it'll be tax% x everything over the personal tax allowance. That's a nice bit of sneakiness....

Cheers
Michael

mcuth wrote:Not only that, if they're combining tax & NIC as just a Tax %age with only the personal tax allowance, you won't benefit from the Lower earnings limit that you don't pay NIC on (£139pw in 2011/12) - neither will you pay only 1% NIC above the Upper Earnings Limit (£817 in 2011/12) - it'll be tax% x everything over the personal tax allowance. That's a nice bit of sneakiness....

Cheers
Michael

Ah yes, all those years of Tories sniping about Labour spinning tax increases - well boot, other foot, ah miraculous, they're just as guilty/ culpable / nasty. The true hideosity of this government has more years to unravel itself.

mcuth wrote:

tontybear wrote:And as for only Labour 'hiding' tax increases by increasing NIC they are having a laugh. The Tories did exactly the same (and worse).

Not only that, if they're combining tax & NIC as just a Tax %age with only the personal tax allowance, you won't benefit from the Lower earnings limit that you don't pay NIC on (£139pw in 2011/12) - neither will you pay only 1% NIC above the Upper Earnings Limit (£817 in 2011/12) - it'll be tax% x everything over the personal tax allowance. That's a nice bit of sneakiness....

Cheers
Michael

Also surely this combined tax will effect savers, being taxed more on income from interest.
Savers aren't doing well recently, poor interest rates and now the possibility of more tax.

Hopefully this Gov will get round to replacing APD

Crikey. People do have dreadfully short memories don't they? Is it really less than a year since Mr Brown was halted in his suicidal bid to bankrupt the nation? I hate to think where we'd be if we'd left him to it...

Which is all beside the point; my reason for posting wasn't really political, more just a curious little report on APD which - given the raison d'etre of these fora - I thought might be of interest. As Hamster points out, be nice if something more substantial can be done about APD in the future.

mdvipond wrote:Crikey. People do have dreadfully short memories don't they?

*cough* 10p tax band *cough*

But where is the evidence of the APD increase intimated in the Telegraph article in the first place? If it were to be starting from 1st April then surely it would be included in VS fares and as I have just done a few dummy bookings I can safely say that the rates of APD pre and post 1st April are exactly the same.

Oh and I thought it was the bankers that almost bankrupted the nation with us the tax payers having to lend them mega billions to prevent total economic meltdown. A loan they seam very ungrateful for.

tontybear wrote:But where is the evidence of the APD increase intimated in the Telegraph article in the first place? If it were to be starting from 1st April then surely it would be included in VS fares and as I have just done a few dummy bookings I can safely say that the rates of APD pre and post 1st April are exactly the same.

Oh and I thought it was the bankers that almost bankrupted the nation with us the tax payers having to lend them mega billions to prevent total economic meltdown. A loan they seam very ungrateful for.

A paper with a non-truth?! Never! But you do make a very good point Tonty. I wonder if anyone will try to explain that. I hate all the "blaming" in politics, the bad stuff is (usually) always the fault of the other party, Labour got very good at blaming others. You are never going to get a government where everyone agrees with everything.

Those stupid bankers.

Hamster wrote: You are never going to get a government where everyone agrees with everything.

We did a few years ago over here - not about everything but about most things - when the opposition party agreed to support the government policies in the best interest of the country. It was a welcome relief from one party dissing another just because they were in opposition

tontybear wrote:Oh and I thought it was the bankers that almost bankrupted the nation with us the tax payers having to lend them mega billions to prevent total economic meltdown.

Hush your mouth. Everyone knows it was all those overpaid librarians that brought this about :w

Got to have some way to pay the average £1m cost of each Tomahawk
Probably will see APD double at the rate they and other expensive fireworks are being fired off.