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Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 19 May 2011, 18:36
by Martin
I have just booked a flight on Alaska Air and when I checked the hand baggage guidelines I found that I can carry on "Service Animals, including properly documented emotional support animals". What is even better is that that they don't count towards my carry on limit.

Does anyone have an emotional support tiger, lion, meerkat or bushbaby I could borrow for a week at the end of the month? Must be properly documented and house-trained :D

Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 19 May 2011, 18:44
by Tinkerbelle
I can't think of anything worse and I dread travelling internally in the US for fear of sitting anywhere near an animal in the confined space of an aircraft. :$ :$ :$

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PostPosted: 19 May 2011, 18:45
by tontybear
If your flying Alaska then a Grizzly Bear would be more appropriate.

Or Sarah Palin though I'm not sure she's house trained.

Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 19 May 2011, 19:55
by PilotWolf
Tinkerbelle wrote:I can't think of anything worse and I dread travelling internally in the US for fear of sitting anywhere near an animal in the confined space of an aircraft. :$ :$ :$


I get the same feeling about badly behaved/poorly parented children and some adults...

PW.

Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 19 May 2011, 20:11
by SNOMO
PilotWolf wrote:
Tinkerbelle wrote:I can't think of anything worse and I dread travelling internally in the US for fear of sitting anywhere near an animal in the confined space of an aircraft. :$ :$ :$


I get the same feeling about badly behaved/poorly parented children and some adults...
PW.

LOL :)

Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 19 May 2011, 20:14
by SNOMO
Martin wrote:I have just booked a flight on Alaska Air and when I checked the hand baggage guidelines I found that I can carry on "Service Animals, including properly documented emotional support animals". What is even better is that that they don't count towards my carry on limit.

Does anyone have an emotional support tiger, lion, meerkat or bushbaby I could borrow for a week at the end of the month? Must be properly documented and house-trained :D


I've got a dog sled team you can borrow ;) Might come in handy if your going to Alaska

Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 19 May 2011, 23:12
by ratechaser
I just wonder what 'properly documented' would mean here - a note from your psychiatrist perhaps!

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PostPosted: 20 May 2011, 08:30
by Scrooge
Welcome to the wonderful world of ADA

http://www.ada.gov/

If you have time (i'm looking but can't find it) try searching for Czech airlines and ADA dog, the basic story is that Czech decided that on a flight to JFK they didn't have to cater to a guide dog, the Federal Government was more than happy to fine them 6 figures for this.

ratechaser wrote:I just wonder what 'properly documented' would mean here - a note from your psychiatrist perhaps!


Pretty much or a doctor.

Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 20 May 2011, 10:59
by Martin
Scrooge wrote:If you have time (i'm looking but can't find it) try searching for Czech airlines and ADA dog,


Thanks Scrooge

I had a quick look at the Czech Air site and they are quite specific about the species and their class of travel :0 :

Czech Airlines wrote:Carrying Animals in the Aircraft Cabin

The only animals that are permitted to travel in the cabin with you are a dog, cat, rabbit, or chinchilla, and only subject to the following conditions:

* The animal must be placed in a special crate (max. dimensions 48 x 32 x 29 cm, max. weight of the create with animal 8 kg)
* You must report to check-in at least 60 minutes before your flight
* Only two small animals can travel in one plane (one in Economy Class and one in Business Class)

Maybe its dogs and cats in economy and rabbits and chinchillas in business :)

Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 20 May 2011, 11:42
by HighFlyer
Airlines vary on their rules in this space. I did an intensive bit of research a few years ago when we were considering relocating to the US. I have a rescue cat who has some psychological issues so I couldnt put her in the hold and I investigated which airlines allow cabin animals. Many of the European airlines are quite accomodating. As Scrooge points out, most airlines only allow a small number of pets per flight and the pets are not supposed to leave their crate, though I have read reports of owners in J sneaking little Timmy out of his crate and under the snuggly blankets in their sleeper beds.

In the US for domestic flights a lot of airlines allow cabin animals and I have seen lots of small dogs at the airport. I am sure plenty of people have managed to get a note from their doctor to say that they cannot possibly be without little Timmy for extended periods of time and so can get the pet to travel with them whereever they go.

I guess you have to be a pet person. I miss my cat whenever we are away and I would love to be able to taker her with me on trips. I know some people do not like animals on planes but then I dont like most people that I have to travel with in a public space and would much prefer to be seated next to a dog than a balding businessman :)

Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 20 May 2011, 12:02
by flabound
I have a 120 pound French Mastiff who is training to be a therapy dog-does that count ?? M ind you he will only fly UC as he insists on lounge access :-)

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PostPosted: 20 May 2011, 12:02
by Hamster
HighFlyer wrote:Airlines vary on their rules in this space. I did an intensive bit of research a few years ago when we were considering relocating to the US. I have a rescue cat who has some psychological issues so I couldnt put her in the hold and I investigated which airlines allow cabin animals. Many of the European airlines are quite accomodating. As Scrooge points out, most airlines only allow a small number of pets per flight and the pets are not supposed to leave their crate, though I have read reports of owners in J sneaking little Timmy out of his crate and under the snuggly blankets in their sleeper beds.

In the US for domestic flights a lot of airlines allow cabin animals and I have seen lots of small dogs at the airport. I am sure plenty of people have managed to get a note from their doctor to say that they cannot possibly be without little Timmy for extended periods of time and so can get the pet to travel with them whereever they go.

I guess you have to be a pet person. I miss my cat whenever we are away and I would love to be able to taker her with me on trips. I know some people do not like animals on planes but then I dont like most people that I have to travel with in a public space and would much prefer to be seated next to a dog than a balding businessman :)


I love animals, and if I had a cat or dog would hate for it to travel in the hold.
But from a selfish point of view, I'm allergic to cats and would have a horrible time if I was near a cat on a transatlantic flight!

Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 20 May 2011, 12:25
by tontybear
On my LX flight Boston to zurich last November there was a small dog in the business cabin in a cage. It was very quiet and stayed in the box and was no bother. It was deffo a pet though. I think LX also have specific seats where pax with pets have to sit in as well

Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 20 May 2011, 13:00
by Leanne
I would love to take my boys (2 rescue cats called Jess & Milo) on holiday with me, I miss them when we go away and always stress about them.

We always have conversations about what they would get up to if they were with us :0 :0

I'd rather travel on a aircraft full or cats and dogs than children ;) thats just my choice though.

Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 20 May 2011, 15:27
by Sunshine
On a jet blue flight to Boston from MCO I travelled with 3 dogs in the first 2 rows. Two were in carry cages but the third was huge and was just on a lead and didn't keep still for the entire flight. It was in the row in front of me and seemed to have its own seat that it kept climbing on and off when it wan't wandering into the aisle :0 If it was a service dog I couldn't see why as the guy it was with looked fit and healthy to me.

Sunshine 8D

Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 20 May 2011, 21:08
by Bill S
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I'd have to do a bit of weight-training to carry my boy on!

A couple of weeks ago I was sitting in the terminal in Murcia - saw 4 dogs and 6 cats all carried on to one aircraft by different pax.
Could have been a fun flight!

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PostPosted: 20 May 2011, 21:13
by slinky09
Big dog eh.

What about a 300 lb pig as a service animal?

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PostPosted: 20 May 2011, 21:31
by Jacki
Apologies for being off topic but we had an A list patient once who demanded her handbag went with her into theatre. We humoured her but in the middle of the op it started to move across the room - we realised too late that that her dog was in it!

Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 20 May 2011, 21:38
by honey lamb
Bill S wrote:
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I'd have to do a bit of weight-training to carry my boy on!

A couple of weeks ago I was sitting in the terminal in Murcia - saw 4 dogs and 6 cats all carried on to one aircraft by different pax.
Could have been a fun flight!

I hope he doesn't have aspirations to be a lap-dog! :0

Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 20 May 2011, 21:48
by MrT
Martin wrote:
Czech Airlines wrote:Carrying Animals in the Aircraft Cabin

The only animals that are permitted to travel in the cabin with you are a dog, cat, rabbit, or chinchilla, and only subject to the following conditions:

* The animal must be placed in a special crate (max. dimensions 48 x 32 x 29 cm, max. weight of the create with animal 8 kg)
* You must report to check-in at least 60 minutes before your flight
* Only two small animals can travel in one plane (one in Economy Class and one in Business Class)

Maybe its dogs and cats in economy and rabbits and chinchillas in business :)


8kg isn't much. I have a cat that would be tipping the scales, never mind the weight of the crate which could be substantial if of wood construction.

I wonder what you're supposed to do when your pet wants to make toilet during the flight?

Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 20 May 2011, 22:11
by PilotWolf
Leanne wrote:I'd rather travel on a aircraft full or cats and dogs than children ;) thats just my choice though.


Would be my choice too! :)

W.

Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 21 May 2011, 00:25
by Luke085
I wish I knew how to post pics! I have a fab picture that a friend of mine posted on Facebook a few months back from a US domestic flight.

The dog had it's own seat and sat tall so you could see the two ears!

I think it would be fine having pets on board, in limited numbers.

Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 21 May 2011, 08:59
by honey lamb
Luke085 wrote:I wish I knew how to post pics! I have a fab picture that a friend of mine posted on Facebook a few months back from a US domestic flight.

The dog had it's own seat and sat tall so you could see the two ears!

I think it would be fine having pets on board, in limited numbers.

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Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 21 May 2011, 10:39
by tontybear
Luke085 wrote:I think it would be fine having pets on board, in limited numbers.


Only if pax are offerred a choice - your pet or your children ): ): ):

Re: Animals in carry on baggage.

PostPosted: 21 May 2011, 13:56
by Guest
Just flew with KLM on my summer holiday and our little pooch (miniature dacshund) was able to travel in an approved cabin bag.

Much prefer that to him being in the hold. With KLM they need to be under 6kgs and fit into the approved bags. Flight was only 2.5 hours and said pooch was well behaved, no toilets and no noise - wouldnt have known he was onboard!

If your pet cant last more than 4 or 5 hours with out the loo (not even what they do overnight) then I suggest travelling on a plane with them is not suitable.