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A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 22 May 2011, 08:44
by Bill S
There has been a new major eruption in Iceland.

It is larger than the Eyjafjallajökull volcano that caused all the disruption last time.
There are reports though that the ash is much coarser so will not hang around in the atmosphere for so long.

Already an exclusion zone that may prevent Iceland being used for diversions.

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 22 May 2011, 08:49
by catsilversword
But so far, no talk of grounding flights...

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 22 May 2011, 09:20
by buns
catsilversword wrote:But so far, no talk of grounding flights...


Wait until the Daily Mail whips up the public's fears with a shed load of "facts" :(!

buns

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 22 May 2011, 10:09
by DocRo
Icelanders are playing it down

"We do not expect the Grimsvotn eruption to affect air traffic to and from the country in any way"

Probably not the beginning of the end of the world either for those disappointed by not being "raptured" yesterday

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 22 May 2011, 10:12
by HWVlover
Some Icelandic airspace now closed, 120 miles around the volcano :(

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 22 May 2011, 10:14
by Bill S
Some aircraft flying around to get these videos. Not a small event!
Pictures

No international flights after 8:30am to/from Iceland.

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 22 May 2011, 10:26
by slinky09
Perhaps the industry and regulators have learned a few lessons.

Perhaps not time to panic?

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 22 May 2011, 10:44
by Bill S
slinky09 wrote:Perhaps the industry and regulators have learned a few lessons.

Wishful thinking / just glass half full? ;)

Good mp4 download here.

Current exclusion advisory.
grimsvotn VAAC 2.jpg

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 22 May 2011, 10:52
by slinky09
Bill stop alarming people :0 v( !

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 22 May 2011, 11:00
by Luke085
Not worried at the moment, but definitely something to keep an eye on!

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 22 May 2011, 11:04
by lisanaomi87
Apparently, according to the news this morning, its a different type of ash so flights won't be affected outside Icelandic airspace....hmmmm

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 22 May 2011, 11:19
by Bill S
slinky09 wrote:Bill stop alarming people :0 v( !

Is giving accurate information alarming people?
It is something we should be watching.

There are new procedures in the Met. office.

They now produce pretty pictures ii)

The ash cloud progress can be clearly seen and aircraft will avoid it - there is no "alarm" there.
As to whether flights will be disrupted, that will very much depend upon the particle size, wind direction and crucially how long the eruption continues. This volcano has a history of large explosions followed by a decrease in activity - but it will not be considered dormant again until ~3 months without activity.

At the moment the jet stream is keeping it well away but then look at Thursday in this forecast.

If the eruption is still continuing then at similar levels, there does appear to be risk of disruption but as I mentioned in my first post, the ash is reported to be much coarser. We await analysis.

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 22 May 2011, 11:19
by tontybear
We are all doomed !

Simon Calder has been wheeled out to spout his so called 'expertise' which will no doubt worry the general populace unnecessarily

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 22 May 2011, 11:45
by Tinkerbelle
Well I suppose it gives the newspapers something to fill their pages with.

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 22 May 2011, 13:34
by honey lamb
There was no mention of it when this volcano erupted in 2004 and airlines coped by re-routing round it. Now, because of Eyj.....Eyf....Eye....Eywhatsitsname everyone has gone into panic mode :(!

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 22 May 2011, 13:42
by Tinkerbelle
honey lamb wrote: Now, because of Eyj.....Eyf....Eye....Eywhatsitsname everyone has gone into panic mode :(!


Which will always be known as "THAT damn volcano!" :)

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 22 May 2011, 14:04
by DocRo
Tinkerbelle wrote:
honey lamb wrote: Now, because of Eyj.....Eyf....Eye....Eywhatsitsname everyone has gone into panic mode :(!


Which will always be known as "THAT damn volcano!" :)



Or something similar

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 22 May 2011, 15:58
by Sunshine
How exciting....I might jut get stranded here in the sunshine state :D

I have been trying to think of an excuse not to return for a few extra weeks ):

Sunshine 8D

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 23 May 2011, 05:42
by catsilversword
honey lamb wrote:There was no mention of it when this volcano erupted in 2004 and airlines coped by re-routing round it. Now, because of Eyj.....Eyf....Eye....Eywhatsitsname everyone has gone into panic mode :(!



Just what I was thinking - and I wonder how many other times in relatively recent years a volcano has erupted and it hasn't even made the news, let alone made airlines panic???

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 23 May 2011, 05:53
by catsilversword

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 23 May 2011, 07:29
by Luke085
catsilversword wrote:Here we go with the media..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... inues.html


It's amazing how easily the media can twist things to create a sense of panic!

Some pretty amazing pictures there though!

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 23 May 2011, 07:41
by Bill S
And of course we have our wonderful met. office to show us that it's not coming anywhere near us anytime soon. ):

:0 Or do they! :0

I should stress the above chart is for flight levels up to 20,000'
But it's probably the one that will appear on the news when they eventually find it. It is also not strictly the Met. office but the new combined VAAC.
There are warnings and the complete set of graphics here and the full CAA/ICAO procedures can be downloaded from here and here.
Worth a read if you wish to fully understand the true relevance of news put out by the media.

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 23 May 2011, 08:13
by DocRo
May be for lower levels only but then I guess the aircraft do have to take off and land.

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 23 May 2011, 08:27
by DarkAuror
Oh no!! I hope it doesn't affect my holiday plans this weekend! :0 :0 :0

The last thing I need to know is that my ferry crossing to the Isle of Wight has been cancelled! ): :o)

Re: A new Iceland Ash Threat

PostPosted: 23 May 2011, 08:51
by Leanne
I feel stressy about this already, and we're due to fly Sunday.

If I was going on a beach holiday I'd be less worried :w