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Just in time for peak holiday travel !

Aeronautical Engineer Brendan Walker explores whether the mass popularity of air travel could have consequences for how safe it is.

He tells some of the most amazing stories of aviation survival and bravery, uncovers shocking incidents resulting from pilots and air traffic controllers falling asleep, finds out about planes that are meant to fly themselves, and examines the effects of lightning, turbulence and volcanic ash.

Sponsored by The Daily Mail.....

northernhenry wrote:Sponsored by The Daily Mail.....

Indeed, hyperbole after hyperbole ... oddly, flying has never been safer, but why let that stop anyone with an agenda.

Let's take this point "Meanwhile, the A380 has suffered engine explosion, tyre burst and wing cracks, all within weeks of coming into service" and analyse that:

- Entry into service 15 October 2007 with SIA.
- Qantas engine explosion 4 November 2010.

So that is weeks, 157 actually, which hardly substantiates the write up. In any case, the RR Trent uncontained engine failure (note not an explosion) was hardly anything to do with the aircraft and everything to do with Rolls Royce.

Clearly, these crap articles and elevated language irk me!

My other half said of the tv advert for that, "sounds like something you would love!"

Just set Sky +

oldboy

Miss G wrote:My other half said of the tv advert for that, "sounds like something you would love!"

Me too.
Bit interested but....
Also the Air France one was a bit scary

Meanwhile, in the less headline grabbing world, 25,000 people killed or seriously injured on the roads in Great Britain in the year to September 2012. Each one of those will have an impact on their families and loved ones.

I'll take my chances in the skies thanks, away from those on the ground who think it ok to take to the wheel of a lethal weapon whilst drunk, drugged, angry, too sure of their own driving skills, too tired, inattentive, texting or fiddling with their iPod, never mind those who think speeding isn't a crime.

pjh wrote:Meanwhile, in the less headline grabbing world, 25,000 people killed or seriously injured on the roads in Great Britain in the year to September 2012. Each one of those will have an impact on their families and loved ones.

I'll take my chances in the skies thanks, away from those on the ground who think it ok to take to the wheel of a lethal weapon whilst drunk, drugged, angry, too sure of their own driving skills, too tired, inattentive, texting or fiddling with their iPod, never mind those who think speeding isn't a crime.

Here here!!!
People constantly flash me for driving at or just under the speed limit. Why the hurry.

How many of us not only tuned in to the last Channel 4 programme about the aircrash ... but booked our seats on a plane we were told was going to crash !!!! Never did get SEQ1 on that either !

slinky09 wrote:

northernhenry wrote:Sponsored by The Daily Mail.....

Indeed, hyperbole after hyperbole ... oddly, flying has never been safer, but why let that stop anyone with an agenda.

Let's take this point "Meanwhile, the A380 has suffered engine explosion, tyre burst and wing cracks, all within weeks of coming into service" and analyse that:

- Entry into service 15 October 2007 with SIA.
- Qantas engine explosion 4 November 2010.

So that is weeks, 157 actually, which hardly substantiates the write up. In any case, the RR Trent uncontained engine failure (note not an explosion) was hardly anything to do with the aircraft and everything to do with Rolls Royce.

Clearly, these crap articles and elevated language irk me!

Gotta love them guys and their continual "please stop enjoying life".

gfonk wrote:

Miss G wrote:My other half said of the tv advert for that, "sounds like something you would love!"

Me too.
Bit interested but....
Also the Air France one was a bit scary

Very!

pjh wrote:Meanwhile, in the less headline grabbing world, 25,000 people killed or seriously injured on the roads in Great Britain in the year to September 2012.

Actually, that is a classic case of how the government like to use statistics... analyse the figures and it's much less of a headline. The number of people killed in that period was 1,760 which was a 7% drop on the previous year. Of those, how many were actually travelling in a car?

We all know you can prove anything with statistics... instead of measuring the number of deaths a year or per mile travelled, why not compute the number of fatalities per completed journey? Suddenly air travel doesn't look quite so safe.

Per completed journey, cars are by far the safest way to go!

Capt.Pag wrote:

pjh wrote:Meanwhile, in the less headline grabbing world, 25,000 people killed or seriously injured on the roads in Great Britain in the year to September 2012.

Actually, that is a classic case of how the government like to use statistics... analyse the figures and it's much less of a headline. The number of people killed in that period was 1,760 which was a 7% drop on the previous year. Of those, how many were actually travelling in a car?

We all know you can prove anything with statistics... instead of measuring the number of deaths a year or per mile travelled, why not compute the number of fatalities per completed journey? Suddenly air travel doesn't look quite so safe.

Per completed journey, cars are by far the safest way to go!

Indeed you can manipulate as you have just done by excluding 22,300 people, plus their families, who are likely to have their lives irrevocably changed for the worse.

My point was more around the fact that where are the 'something must be done' headlines on making people better drivers? That vehicles are now better designed, and emergency treatment protocols better at keeping people alive, doesn't obviate the need for that to happen.