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HighFlyers Great Escapade Review - Long

PostPosted: 26 Jul 2005, 18:07
by HighFlyer
I wanted to out a bit of info up about my Great Escapade for anyone interested or for those with questions, so I hope this helps some of you. If you want to know anything, please feel free to ask me.

I went with my partner, and we booked just under a year in advance with Travelbag. We paid £3300 each plus tax for a round the world Business class ticket (i believe fares have gone up now)

The routing we chose for the GE was:

London --> Hong Kong --> Singapore --> Bangkok --> (overland to) Kuala Lumpur --> Singapore --> Sydney --> Auckland --> Los Angeles --> (overland to) San Francisco --> London

This routing was our second choice, originally we chose to stop over in the Tonga area in the South Pacific but Air New Zealand changed their flight times to ones that meant we couldn’t connect in the way we wanted to so we decided to omit that part of the trip.

In addition, we purchased internal flights within Australia from Sydney to Ayers Rock, then Cairns and back to Sydney with Qantas. Qantas have a monopoly (now lessening due to Virgin Blue) and their flights were quite expensive. Be prepared that all these extras add up!

(Similarly, all the tours we did at all these places have cost the earth, work that into your budget!! We didn’t!! Obviously you have to see and do all the things at each place, such as visiting a tower or a temple or a bridge, but it really adds up)

One thing I would advise is to keep checking the flight times. Several of our flight times changed - fortunately without causing any inconvenience, but one flight changed and we had no idea as we hadn’t checked the times recently.

We were away for a month, purely as that was the maximum time that we could get off work.

We stayed no more than 5 days at any one destination, purely to fit in as much as we could. Id rather see a bit of a place than not at all, although we found 3 or 4 days to be perfect for most places, enough to see the main sights and tourist attractions and get a taste for the place – places we liked we will go back to, others we are glad to have seen but wouldn’t go back.

(I’ll break it down for anyone interested … )



Hong Kong --> 3 nights --> The Peninsula
Singapore --> 2 nights --> Raffles
Bangkok --> 4 Nights --> Shangri-la
Kuala Lumpur --> 4 Nights --> Mandarin Oriental
Sydney --> 4 Nights --> Shangri-la
Ayers Rock --> 1 Night --> Desert Gardens Hotel
Cairns --> 3 Nights --> Sheraton Mirage
Los Angeles --> 2 Nights (was 3) --> Regent Beverly Wiltshire
San Francisco --> 3 Nights (was 2) --> Mandarin Oriental

We loved (and will return to) Hong Kong, Sydney and San Fran. I would recommend these places to anybody.

Singapore was a bit dull to be honest as it doesn’t have a main attraction (SYD had the Opera House, KUL the Petronas Towers etc) something the city is famous for, we had a Singapore Sling and went to the Singapore Zoo, which was very good, other than that, Singapore didn’t hold a lot of interest of us. (Travelbag told us 2 nights would be enough, and im glad I followed their advice)

Bangkok was great for all the temples, although it had a real tourist feel. We were taken to ‘Gemstone’ factories by our guides on several occasions (though we learnt this one quickly!!) and even the floating market is purely a tourist trap, no locals shop there any more. The people are the friendliest I have met, and I would definitely go back to Thailand but I would choose one of the beach resorts such as Phuket or Krabi instead.

KL surprised me in its great Muslim population. My Nan was/is Malaysian and it was interesting to see how the city had changed. A lot of money has gone into KL through the oil and we saw lots of Saudi’s on holiday there. Most surprisingly, we saw lots (I mean I saw like 30-40) Saudi women wearing the full head to toe black covering (with just their eyes showing). I never expected that in Malaysia but apparently KL is the #1 Saudi holiday spot. KL is a lovely city though, very clean with a lovely park that was nice to walk around in the evenings. They have lots of shopping malls too – but really for the tourists! Of course, the Petronas towers is the must do attraction.

Ayers Rock was fantastic, one night is enough to see the rock, you may want to stay longer if you want to see the Olgas or Kings Canyon. I did a base walk and saw sunrise and sunset and that was enough.

We only went to Cairns to get to the Barrier Reef to do some diving (which we did and was excellent) and i have it on video!! LOL

LA we didn’t really enjoy. We did the tourist things (Hollywood sign, Chinese Theatre etc) and had an afternoon at Universal as I had always wanted to do the backlot tour, but then we ran out of things to do as LA is so big. We stayed just off Rodeo Drive and in the evenings there wasn’t a lot to do. We found that LA lacked the character of other places we had been to (plus we didn’t like our hotel) so we decided to get out – and go to San Fran a day early (and had to pay to change our tickets!) Fortunately we had a great time in SFO and ended the trip on a high!! We just loved it there, SFO has real character with its Cable Cars, colony of Sealions, and just a general good feel. Sadly, we didn’t realize that there is a lot of fog there in the summer, plus the majority of Sealions leave Pier 39. We couldn’t see the Golden Gate bridge most afternoons due to the fog, and only saw about 9 Sealions. We still had a fab time, but next time we go will be Fall or Spring because of these factors. Again, it all comes down to doing your research and knowing this beforehand.



If you are planning a RTW trip I would advise doing all your research and establishing where you do and don’t fancy going before you get near a travel agent. We did lots and lots of research and still it wasn’t enough. There are so many small things you want or need to know about your destinations that its hard to assimilate it all. For example, I wanted to go to Six Flags when we were in L.A. but didn’t actually appreciate that it would take about 2 hours to drive there from our hotel, needless to say we didn’t go, but if I had done a bit more investigating I would have known that and been able to plan accordingly or at least arrange another activity.

Luggage

My other half put his foot down, deciding that we would take one suitcase each. Being away for a month this was a nightmare (especially being of the fairer sex) but in reality it’s a good idea. When you have to take 8 or 10 or 15 flights you don’t want to be lugging cases all the time. Reduced luggage space also meant a reduced amount of space for souvenirs too, and restricted what we could buy – probably a good thing! You will also need to check the luggage allowance for the airlines you use, Virgin in UC have a great allowance, but then if you are getting onboard an economy internal flight a few days later (like I did) you probably will have trouble checking all your luggage.

We also mixed our clothes up between both cases, I would greatly advise this just incase you lose a case for a few days. Imagine eating at the Peninsula hotel in yesterday’s clothes you flew an overnighter in!!

Amazingly, we didn’t lose any luggage or miss any flights. I honestly thought we would have one issue at least, but not a sausage! My faith in baggage handlers has gone sky high! (it must be my nifty V-Flyer luggage tags that do it??)

We also needed to avail ourselves of the hotel laundry system. We sussed out that the Mandarin Oriental in KL offered 5 free pieces of laundry per night in their room rate for Horizon Club rooms (so we had that!) and the package we had at the Sydney Shangri-la offered free laundry for the duration of our stay. I think they were gutted when we sent £200 of laundry to them – although they wrecked some of my clothes (which I’ll tell you about in a hotel trip report). One area of concern was having clean underwear, I didn’t have enough smalls to last the whole trip – and sending them off to Hotel laundry is a strange experience – and a rather personal one at that! (Although I preferred that than washing them myself in the sink!

Money

We decided to take a small amount of each currency for each country we visited. We got £100 in each country’s currency and used that mainly for the first few days and for tipping and stuff (when we landed in Hong Kong we had to tip the driver, the bellboy and the airport assistant) We set up an account with Nationwide and put some cash in there. Nationwide don’t charge you for international withdrawals so its well worth doing – and we just topped up our cash as needed that way.

We spent a lot of time waiting at airports too, and a lot of time trying to amuse ourselves on planes. Most of the flights I took showed the same movies and so the trips soon lost their novelty factor. I highly advise a good lightweight book and an iPod for flying!

What have I learned from this trip?

That I want to do another! LOL! But seriously, the world is smaller to me now than it was before, I feel like a pro at the airport, and I have a great looking passport!! This isnt just a big holiday, its almost a life changing experience, i feel i have grown as a person through some of the amazing things i have done, such as washing elephants in a river, watching Humpback whales in Sydney, touching Ayers Rock, diving the Great Barrier Reef, etc etc.

Was it worth the money? (bearing in mind I can barely afford a take-away at present as I spent all my savings on my half of the trip)

Yes, damn right it was worth it. I have done some amazing things, have great memories and gotten a kind of 'education of the world' from going to different places. When we were in KL we asked our taxi driver to drop us off at the Bird & Butterfly Gardens, he dropped us off in the middle of nowhere (unknown to us) and i found a Malay man and desperately tried to communicate to him to find out which way to go - but to no avail as he didnt speak English. Next thing we knew, he came after us on a motorbike with a friend (English speaking) who told us we were miles away from the park - and they offered us a lift on the back of their motorbikes! They had never met us but were happy to help us out, i had this flowing skirt on and my handbag with me - on the back of a Malay motorbike (no helmet) racing along the roads with the other half behind me. You can’t buy those sort of memories.

Any questions on my trip or RTW in general, feel free to ask … otherwise, get your RTW brochure today and get saving!!


:D:D:D

PostPosted: 26 Jul 2005, 18:20
by RichardMannion
Thanks for this fab guide HighFlyer!

I think you are determined to cost me and several other V-Flyers a great deal of money on RTW trips. Are you on commission? :)

Thanks,
Richard

PostPosted: 26 Jul 2005, 19:26
by shazam
That was a brilliant read HighFlyer, thanks for taking the time to write it.



Shaz

PostPosted: 26 Jul 2005, 19:34
by seany
Thanks for that, I hope I get to do one of these one day.

PostPosted: 26 Jul 2005, 22:02
by Strawberry Muppet
What a wonderful review. Thank you for sharing that. Plus it's been a joy reading your trip reports.


Originally posted by HighFlyer

We loved (and will return to) Hong Kong, Sydney and San Fran. I would recommend these places to anybody.




Couldn't agree any more with you. They are my three favourite cities as well, each with their own individual charm.

The Strawb

PostPosted: 26 Jul 2005, 23:39
by Milliemoo
You've given some really great advise there, High Flyer :D

I now don't feel so 'geeky' compiling our 'GE Guide', which goes into every detail possible, even down to what bus/ferry/tram to catch, how frequesnt they are, and how long the journey should take [:I]

I started it because we have such little time, and there's also a lot of stuff we want to organise for emigrating next year like bank accounts. IRD no's etc. It's going to be a real squeeze to fit everything....but fun! :D

We also had to change our plans because of NZ changing flight times. the up side to that is we now have thios huge villa on the beach in Rarotonga for 2 nights [8D] trailfinders have been very good, and let us know of any changes.

Milliemoo

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2005, 00:58
by mcuth
Brilliant review Sarah, thanks :) Though I may have to recruit you to convince my bank manager of my essential need to do a similar trip ;)

"The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco" - yup, whoever said it wasn't far off the mark. To be honest, there's likely to be the afternoon fog all year round, but it's just another one of those quirks of the city's micro-climate :)

Cheers

Michael

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2005, 08:38
by iforres1
In one word, BRILLIANT.

Thanks for taking the time to write up,with some great tips as well.

Iain

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2005, 09:15
by Wolves27
Great TR Sarah.
Looks like you stayed in some pretty nice hotels too. Rhe MO in KL is nice isn't it, and so chuffin cheap for what you get!

Dean

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2005, 09:57
by FamilyMan
Fantastic Sarah and some great tips - particularly like the 'mix your luggage' idea.

Did a similar trip a few years ago -

Hong Kong > Bangkok > Cairns[overland]> Surfers > Sydney > Auckland > Hawaii > Vegas > LA

and came back similarly penniless but with some great memories that endure to this day.

Thanks for making the effort and allowing us all to share, just a little bit, your experiences.

Originally posted by HighFlyer
We couldnÕt see the Golden Gate bridge most afternoons due to the bridge...

!!!!

Phil (Buffy)

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2005, 10:02
by fozzyo
Thanks for that Sarah, really sounds like you and Mr HighFlyer had a real once in a lifetime holiday. Although i expect it won't be just the once for you. ;)

I think i've become a bit lazy at the research bit lately, a lot of my recent trips have been fairly short or back to palces I've been so I haven't felt the need to do too much. But now i want to get surfing and reading thinking about HKG and SYD next year.

Great tip about mixing the clothes between suitcases - never thought about doing that.

Foz xx

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2005, 14:56
by jaguarpig
Thanks fantastic reports all round[y]

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2005, 14:58
by HighFlyer
We couldnÕt see the Golden Gate bridge most afternoons due to the bridge...


I mean FOG!! LOL Gosh, sorry about that one guys!! (you all know what imeant!! LOL)

Thanks for all the positives :):)

Buffy - your trip itinerary sound excellent, i love that Hawaii to Vegas thing!!

Dean - Oh yes, the MO KL is awesome, a fab hotel, we loved it there, and having access to the Hoiron lounge made it perfect. If i go to KUL again i wouldnt stay anywhere else. The location is perfect!

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2005, 17:47
by stephen
Fantastic TR and now looking forward even more to our trip RTW. Some great advice in your TR and many points taken on board. Only last night i was checking the ANZ site re baggage as we have one internal Y flight in NZ and one in the USA, the rest in J so no issues there. Our only difference is draging two kids 10 and 14 round with us and my In-laws[:0][:0] I will do a trip report when we return but i must commend you on your fine TR it makes excellent reading well done and the photos are fab. One Question please.... we have a night flight leaving PPT at 02:30 on the 01.01.06 Ahhhhh straight after new years eve, what are the buisness seats like on the ANZ B767 300?

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2005, 20:21
by seany
:D:D:D...I've gone and done it!

London-Singapore-Brisbane-Christchurch-Auckland-Cook Islands-Tahiti-Los Angeles-London, 20th April 2006-20th June 2006. Woohoo I can't wait now.

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2005, 20:24
by preiffer
Originally posted by sean modi
:D:D:D...I've gone and done it!

London-Singapore-Brisbane-Christchurch-Auckland-Cook Islands-Tahiti-Los Angeles-London, 20th April 2006-20th June 2006. Woohoo I can't wait now.
Nice one [y] J or Y? Good route, too.

(not tempted to "pop up" to SFO on the way?)

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2005, 20:32
by Milliemoo
Originally posted by sean modi
:D:D:D...I've gone and done it!

London-Singapore-Brisbane-Christchurch-Auckland-Cook Islands-Tahiti-Los Angeles-London, 20th April 2006-20th June 2006. Woohoo I can't wait now.




Wahoooooo another recruit :D

Love the route you've choosen [8D] Where do you plan to stay in the Cooks? Are you going to stay at Raffles in Singapore? I'm still waiting for High Flyers review on that one...hint hint ;):D;)

Milliemoo

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2005, 20:35
by seany
J (but I have no idea how I'm gonna pay for it lol). I would like to pop up to SFO, will they do it for me if I ask them?

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2005, 21:01
by seany
Originally posted by Milliemoo

Love the route you've choosen [8D] Where do you plan to stay in the Cooks? Are you going to stay at Raffles in Singapore?


I'm staying at manuia beach hotel in the cooks and raffles in Singapore. I've never been to SIN or the cooks so I'm very excited about that!

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2005, 21:30
by Milliemoo
Cool [8D]

Milliemoo

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2005, 22:42
by HighFlyer
what are the buisness seats like on the ANZ B767 300?


Stephen - see my ANZ trip report on the 'Other Airlines' trip reports section, i flew on a 767 and you can see a pic of the seat and a review. This is the old seating they are due to replace and is on most aircraft.

Sean ... nice one!! Great routing, absolutely great, and i cant wait to hear all about it.

BTW, just a comment, but for Singapore is there any reason why you chose Raffles? Personally i wouldnt, i would go for the Oriental. We stayed at Raffles and didnt rate it (in a palm suite) I wish we had satyed at the Oriental which is much better and just visited Raffles while we were there.

Its your choice though, you probably want to go there for the same rasons we did - just to say you have!! :D

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2005, 22:46
by HighFlyer
I'm still waiting for High Flyers review on that one...hint hint
#

Ok .. ok... LOL ;);):D:D

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2005, 22:54
by Milliemoo
Having read that you don't rate Raffles, I'm now even more intriged! ;)

Milliemoo

PostPosted: 28 Jul 2005, 09:38
by HighFlyer
Having read that you don't rate Raffles, I'm now even more intriged!


Take a look at my review under Hotels, you will see why. Im glad i stayed at Raffles to experience it, but its by no means the best hotel i have stayed at. I guess i may have felt a nit dissapointed as i was expecting more than we got - there is so much hype about Raffles and how you have to stay there - that i think that lead me to build up an expectation.

PostPosted: 28 Jul 2005, 11:39
by seany
Originally posted by HighFlyer

BTW, just a comment, but for Singapore is there any reason why you chose Raffles? Personally i wouldnt, i would go for the Oriental. We stayed at Raffles and didnt rate it (in a palm suite) I wish we had satyed at the Oriental which is much better and just visited Raffles while we were there.
Its your choice though, you probably want to go there for the same rasons we did - just to say you have!! :D


Having seen your review and your pics (thanks for those), I'm not sure It's my kind of thing. I'll give it a little more consideration though, as you say I just wanted to say I had been there [8D].

Cheers