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A question of UK nationality...

PostPosted: 28 Jul 2005, 23:28
by Pete
Ok, I hope someone can satisfy my curiosity on this point following one of those down-the-pub conversations that never came to a resolution.

Given that Britain is England, Scotland, Wales and the UK is Britain and Northern Ireland (as noted on all our UK passports!), is there a term to describe a person from anywhere in the UK (UKish?). British would appear to only cover a subsection.

Pete

PostPosted: 28 Jul 2005, 23:30
by preiffer
Agreed - it is, afterall, "Great Britain & Northern Ireland" that makes up the "United Kingdom".

So, you're either Kingdom-ish, or you have to pick your own mini-country (myself being "English", etc...). There is also the cover-all "I'm from the UK".


Of course, to many Americans, we're all simply "Europeans" ;)

PostPosted: 28 Jul 2005, 23:36
by Scrooge
Originally posted by preiffer
Agreed - it is, afterall, "Great Britain & Northern Ireland" that makes up the "United Kingdom".



Of course, to many Americans, we're all simply "Europeans" ;)


oh bull,you could say that about French/German Spanish/Italian.

but americans know England,Ireland,Scotland,though most think Wales is part of England :D

PostPosted: 28 Jul 2005, 23:44
by robandgill
Originally posted by pixuk
Ok, I hope someone can satisfy my curiosity on this point following one of those down-the-pub conversations that never came to a resolution.

Given that Britain is England, Scotland, Wales and the UK is Britain and Northern Ireland (as noted on all our UK passports!), is there a term to describe a person from anywhere in the UK (UKish?). British would appear to only cover a subsection.

Pete


Pete

There are definetly some people in Northern Ireland who call themselves British and definetly some people who don't

Using the passport analogy, I am from Northern Ireland but
in my passport i am a british citizen. So I think "British"
suffices if you are that way politically inclined. However,
if asked abroad "Are you English?" I have to politely
decline and say "Irish" and sidestep any ensuing political discussion (alcohol permitting).

Robert

PostPosted: 28 Jul 2005, 23:46
by Pete
I might go for Kingdonian...

PostPosted: 28 Jul 2005, 23:47
by preiffer
Originally posted by pixuk
I might go for Kingdonian...
Very Lordy... [:0][:p]

PostPosted: 28 Jul 2005, 23:52
by robandgill
Originally posted by pixuk
I might go for Kingdonian...


better make it United Kingdonian
avoid any confusion with individuals
from other Kingdoms [:p]

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2005, 00:02
by honey lamb
Of course, to many Americans, we're all simply "Europeans"

Earlier this year I was invited to join some friends in Lake Tahoe (which of course I accepted with alacrity) Three of us travelled from this side of the pond - me on VS and the other two on BA. We did however fly from SFO to RNO on the same flight and from there rented a car to Tahoe.

When we arrived at our destination all but one of the American contingent had arrived. They saw us coming in through the open door and the cry went up "The Brits are here!!" I'm from Ireland, G is from Hong Kong and R is from South Africa but because we'd all come in from London we were thought to be Brits!!

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2005, 00:10
by mcmbenjamin
My vote is 'British.'

You would spend the British Pound Sterling NI and England right?

Benjamin

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2005, 00:11
by slinky09
Originally posted by pixuk
I might go for Kingdonian...


What about Queendonian, after all EII?

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2005, 00:18
by mitchja
How about 'English Realm of the United Kingdonian of Central Britain'

that way you can then replace English with Irish, Scottish or Welsh depending where you live.

Regards

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2005, 00:19
by preiffer
""I'm from the 51st State"?

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2005, 00:21
by robandgill
Originally posted by mcmbenjamin
My vote is 'British.'

You would spend the British Pound Sterling NI and England right?

Benjamin


right. Although we have our own special type of sterling
in Northern Ireland, but you probably know about that
since alot of it went missing last Christmas in Belfast.

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2005, 00:22
by mitchja
Originally posted by preiffer
"I'm from the 51st State"?

"I'm from the part of the US that George lets Tony play with"? [:p]



woof woof as Tony would say ;)

Regards

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2005, 00:39
by honey lamb
but you probably know about that since alot of it went missing last Christmas in Belfast.

Yeah! And some of it was found just up the road from me! [:(!]

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2005, 00:43
by Decker
AirStrip Oneers...

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2005, 01:30
by VS-EWR
Originally posted by mitchja
How about 'English Realm of the United Kingdonian of Central Britain'


Haha, I like that one myself.

Hmmm... New Jersey Realm of the United Statesian of North America ..[:0]

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2005, 02:11
by onionz
I think a key question is, would you ever wish to describe yourself as UKish? The reason such a term doesn't exist is because there is no call for it, much like we never describe ourselves as Commonwealthish (or European for that matter!).

While it's technically correct to draw attention to your citizenship of the UK, it's equally correct and more prevalent to simply say English, Welsh etc. or British.

Personally I tend to say British, and you might find it interesting to note that http://www.royal.gov.uk refers to the Queen as Head of State of the UK, but then also refers to "British monarchs".

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2005, 09:59
by HighFlyer
"I'm from the 51st State"?


LOLOLOL We certainly are!!

I'm British myself, and refer to our Country and Northern Ireland as the United Kingdom. I hear on talk radio that if you belong to England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ieland etc you can call yourself English? That one made me laugh!

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2005, 13:15
by iforres1
LOLOLOL We certainly are!!

I hear on talk radio that if you belong to England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ieland etc you can call yourself English? That one made me laugh!
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Hmm, but would you want to;)

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2005, 14:35
by FamilyMan
I always used to consider myself British. Funnily enough as a backlash to all the Welsh and Scottish Nationalism I now consider myself either English or European.

However the US immigration authorities seem to take exception as whenever I fill in the nationality block with 'English' they almost always put a line through it and write 'UK'.

Phil (Buffy)

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2005, 15:45
by Scrooge
Originally posted by HighFlyer
"I'm from the 51st State"?


LOLOLOL We certainly are!!

I'm British myself, and refer to our Country and Northern Ireland as the United Kingdom. I hear on talk radio that if you belong to England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ieland etc you can call yourself English? That one made me laugh!


It's funny,at work there is myself and a guy from Glasgow.We give eachother a hardtime about being English/Scottish but lord help anybody else who tries to join in the fun,then we become British and I think that about says it all.

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2005, 19:02
by AlanA
Its actually very simple, there is Gods own country dwellers better known as Yorkshiremen and............
the rest :D:D[:o)][:o)]:D:D

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2005, 20:09
by Scrooge
Originally posted by AlanA
Its actually very simple, there is Gods own country dwellers better known as Yorkshiremen and............
the rest :D:D[:o)][:o)]:D:D

or another way of looking at it,there are all of us.......then there are Yorkshire men

PostPosted: 30 Jul 2005, 11:11
by AlanA
Originally posted by jetwet1
Originally posted by AlanA
Its actually very simple, there is Gods own country dwellers better known as Yorkshiremen and............
the rest :D:D[:o)][:o)]:D:D

or another way of looking at it,there are all of us.......then there are Yorkshire men


see? even Dave gets it [:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)]:D:D:D:D:D