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VS031 LGW-UVF 14 Sep 07 (PE)

PostPosted: 23 Sep 2007, 14:15
by RichardMannion
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For some background, back in October 2006 at Virgin Holidays 21st Birthday party, I won a holiday for two to St Lucia for 10 days with flights in Premium. Given the way the flights were allocated, we wouldnt earn miles or TPs, nor could I pay to upgrade them so we decided to give the holiday to my parents, and we would book a companion holiday to join them, but for 7 nights instead of 10 with us all travelling out together in Premium, and then Sarah and I returning in Upper.

What is it with Gatwick hotel prices, they are either peanuts because they look a bit of a dump, or places that think that because they have the name Hilton or Sofitel think they can charge 185+ for a nights stay. Bearing in mind that we were planning to check-in at 6am, Sarah and I decide to forgo the hotel option and stay up the previous evening and make the drive over to Gatwick at 4am. We picked up my parents en-route at the newly renovated Clarion hotel nearby to Gatwick, and from what I saw of the reception and my parents opinion, it was actually quite good, and especially good for the 61 rate they had found via a broker (as direct it was about 115/night). It made sense for them as they had flown in that evening to LGW.

I parked the car up at ParkPlus which appears to be a new parking facility next door to Parking Express and the Upper Class drive-thru check-in area. Very quick 2 minute transfer to the terminal, and the walk to Zone A avoiding all the passengers stood looking gormless in front of the screens trying to work out where they need to check-in. Now, surely it takes no more than 15 seconds to look up and work out where you need to go? Is it really that difficult? [;)]

We arrive at Zone A, and there is a dilemma. Directly in front of me is a solitary Upper Class check-in desk hiding behind a pillar, but behind me is a huge Upper Class check-in compound that is closed off with a Tensabarrier. So we walk forward to the hidden Upper pillar, and it appears that Flying Club Golds are not oft seen in a Gatwick terminal as I see a desk with a monitor above it saying Silver Card check-in.

This isnt a dig at Silver card holders, just seems strange to dedicate a check-in desk to FC Ag when they can use PE check-in.

Anyway, on to the check-in. Now for some reason, Virgin Holidays sent us two of everything for our trip, including two sets of identical flights tickets (aside from issue date). Now me being a good chap, I gave the agent both sets and said they were identical apart from the issue date, but that meant me standing there like a muppet for 10 minutes whilst she disappeared to check something. After 10 minutes, she decided to check us in using the latest issued tickets, and then said that I need to take the other tickets back to the ticket desk. Looking at the lack of staff and the small forming queue I decided to shut my mouth and deal with that later. Now on to the next shining example of GroundStar, Can I see your hand luggage? the agent asks. Sarah lifts her laptop bag up, no issues. I lift my identically sized bag up, can you put it on the scales please? even though my case is still on the scale. And the meter says, 7.5kg. That is too heavy, the limit is 5kg, you will have to take 2.5kg out. Obviously this member of outsourced staff has forgot they are working on the Virgin counter today, and not one of the LCCs. It is pointed out to them that it is 8kg, and Gold members are allowed another 20kg of baggage anyway. Then in true GroundStar tradition, the agent next to her starts to chime in (even though he is serving another passenger) saying I am wrong, and the other agent is correct. Obviously the solitary IQ point was being shared between them, so I smiled and said I would sort it out in the Clubhouse. At that point, Clubhouse invitation were handed over, shame they werent filled in or signed.

On to Fast Track, and passing on the way the array of people in t-shirts that used to sell perfume but now stand there handing out plastic bags and telling people what they can and cant do. Now BAA has yet again showed its prowess when it comes to common sense and the complete lack of it. I know, lets slap the Fast track aisle slap bang in the middle of the security line. Genius! Quick walk through security and we were through to the general departures lounge; What is it with British holidaymakers insisting on wearing tracksuit bottoms, shell suits, football shirts, Budwesier/Worldcup 94 t-shirts etc? It's like a moving Freemans catalgoue. I managed to traverse the area and up the escalators to the corridor leading to the Gatwick Clubhouse without touching anyone, no small feat given the crowds of EZ/MON masses gathering around the Gallardo at the bottom of the escalators.

Down the corridors, and through to the teleporter that took us to the Clubhouse. I say teleporter because its an oasis in the CH compared to the general departure lounge. Needless to say I was not disappointed, familiar smiling faces who welcomed us back to the old home from home. A hug from this years Superhero Rina for us all, with news that her good husband was on his way. No sooner had we sat down, a bucket with champagne arrived for us all. The staff were really good, and took great care of my parents making sure they were okay and helping them select treatments. Quick breakfast and a look/read of the days papers. I may be alone in my opinion here, but I am disappointed with the reading material that VS spends money on, buying Hello and Ok magazine, and as for the Daily Mail and Daily Express (my new favourite look) given its absolute insistence that its The Worlds greatest newspaper. Talk about being on drugs. Give me The Times any day. I went for my token haircut, which was rather good and tipped the hairdresser who actually seemed genuinely surprised to get a tip. Back for breakfast, chat to Mr. Shoeshine Jack and chat to the peeps on reception about issues at check-in and the mysterious duplicate documents (which they took care of in seconds). Then it was time to board the flight as we had waited for the second call.

The long walk over to the satellite terminal, and we were among the last to board (though good to see the priority boarding set up).
Note to mitchjas of the world, we were on Virginia Plain, G-VTOP.
Up the stairs to our seats, and the cabins have filled rather quickly in PE and UC, as they were both half empty the night before. Must be lots of staff travelling! Flight time was announced at 7h 50 mins, nice quick flight, and so we settled in 79A and C. A member of crew appeared with the drinks tray, the immortal question asked Is that champagne or sparkling wine? The answer back rather abruptly was a condescending its sparkling wine. I grated my teeth. I didnt bother looking at the IFE; I really cannot be bothered with non-AVOD anymore. It really is so 90s. Shame as there were a few movies on there that I would have watched (compared to the 50+ rubbish films we had when flew to IAD in July on a VPort equipped plane). Anyway, I had synced my iPod the night before so had a good deal of new podcasts to amuse myself with. Glad I charged it as I forgot that a) I had left my USB charge cable at home. B) There is no chuffing Empower in PE on the LGW/MAN routes.

Ever heard the phrase Its a small world and it not have Disney connotations? Well in my fathers case, it must be damn small world. Its impossible to go anywhere with him without us bumping into someone he knows. Low and behold, this was going to be the soup du jour today, as one of the fellow PE passengers knows him. Parents? Whod have them?

Meal time came, and the usual Do you want chicken, beef or vegetarian? ensued, though for once it was actually not that bad. It least it wasnt served like slop as it had been on some of my previous PE outings, with the delights of mass seepage. Time flew by as I listened to my Jimmy Carr podcasts and read the proper papers. It was now time for the second meal service, the snack service. It seemed to be done in dribs and drabs and I noted a few passengers getting served a good 15 minutes before anyone else. And so it happens, they get to our row and its now egg and cheese, or egg and cheese. All the Chicken and ham sandwiches have gone. Grr! I dont eat egg, nor cheese. I ask if they have any back in Economy, theyve already been served and there are none left. FSM is called, and who confirms that meal preference is not guaranteed for Golds in PE or Economy. But she turns the situation around and promptly brings me a lovely plate of ham sandwiches from Upper. Problem resolved quickly and satisfactorily, good marks to the FSM. Its a shame that the FSM didnt make the rounds during the flight to do a welcome to the Gold and Silver members onboard.

Time to prepare for landing, and we were soon on the ground. A quick fast walk across the tarmac to the immigration room. Now my, the US boys could learn a thing or two about a glowing welcome from these chaps. A smile, politeness, and a Welcome were all present and correct. Now Sarah and I being the type we are, we have black Virgin Atlantic leather passport wallets to protect the passports, complete with medical booklets inside and Flying Club membership cards. In America and the UK, they rip your passport out and literally throw the cover and contents at you. Simply scanning the available page with the data would be too much like hard work. No, no, not here. They carefully removed the passport, scanned it, and then actually took the effort to try and put it back together as they were handed it. Sarahs mouth was wide open in amazement at such politeness and courtesy.

Luggage arrived soon afterwards in the adjacent baggage room, and then off through customs. There are a lot of porter people in the area just after customs, trying to assist with the luggage. I understand that its job creation but really dislike the way they hassle tourists as soon as they land and try and take their luggage off them.. Outside to the Virgin Holidays desk to inquire how many were doing the transfer, another 6. We decided to get a taxi on our own as it was damn hot and humid in St Lucia and we didnt want to wait for the other 6 people to turn up.

Overall, the PE flight passed pretty quickly and wasnt that bad a flight, especially as I had, rightly or wrongly, expected less as I usually fly from LHR on the more business oriented routes.

PostPosted: 23 Sep 2007, 14:22
by Decker
Thank you for a typically acerbic fun report Richard! Can't wait for the return.

On my flight back in PE on Sunday last I asked the FA which routes got sparkling these days and she said'They ALL do it's just that some crew are too embarrassed to admit it and so continue to call it champagne'. I would invoke Trading Standards but the website now says 'pre flight drink'.

As for small world - I was in the Clubhouse at EWR sat next to a lady who was tellng me she hasn't been in NJ for 20 years since she moved to NC. 'Where were you from?' I asked. 'Oh you wouldn't know it - a small town called Westwood'. 'Westwood? I was eating in the Iron Horse just last week' 'Does Lee still run it?' 'Yup - he's a great guy' 'OMG tell him you met XXXX's old girlfriend'...

PostPosted: 23 Sep 2007, 17:24
by n/a
Decker, that's nothing. I was sitting wrapped in a ragged towel, chatting up some bloke down the baths one day and...well, erm, nevermind...

Richard -- speaking for the crowd outside your estate's gates, your TR was worth the wait (although grammarians around the world might be taking an H2-receptor antagonist at this moment). Your powers of observation and your French oak-aged misanthropy resonate with me to such a degree that my entire body becomes as a tuning fork, ringing out the dulcet tone of 'Mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnion...'

I wish you flew every damn day of the week so that we could roll like sympathetic pigs in the mud of your existence.

Huzzah!

GJ

PostPosted: 23 Sep 2007, 17:36
by VS075
Originally posted by RichardMannion
no small feat given the crowds of EZ/MON masses gathering around the Gallardo at the bottom of the escalators.


Excuse me, there is absolutely nothing wrong with Monarch whatsoever, and if you've flown on one of their 'Scheduled' services you will be pleasantly surprised. Flew with them in July to Faro and booked on them again for next year.

Other than that, great TR and thanks for sharing!

PostPosted: 23 Sep 2007, 17:46
by RichardMannion
Originally posted by VS075
Originally posted by RichardMannion
no small feat given the crowds of EZ/MON masses gathering around the Gallardo at the bottom of the escalators.


Excuse me, there is absolutely nothing wrong with Monarch whatsoever, and if you've flown on one of their 'Scheduled' services you will be pleasantly surprised. Flew with them in July to Faro and booked on them again for next year.

Other than that, great TR and thanks for sharing!


Ahh yes, maybe I was been a bit harsh on the MON lot; especially as Reiffer flew them a couple of weeks ago, so can't be all that bad.

PostPosted: 23 Sep 2007, 17:49
by n/a
Originally posted by RichardMannion
Ahh yes, maybe I was been a bit harsh on the MON lot; especially as Reiffer flew them a couple of weeks ago, so can't be all that bad.


Going soft in your dotage? Stick to your guns and repeat after me: 'LCCs are sh*te!'

That's better...

GJ

PostPosted: 23 Sep 2007, 18:10
by Decker
I've flown Monarch in the past - not too shabby at all :)

PostPosted: 23 Sep 2007, 18:48
by Bazz
We have done Monarch Crown Service a couple of times it was more than acceptable and better than VS Y.

PostPosted: 23 Sep 2007, 19:57
by Neil
It's like a moving Freemans catalgoue.
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I love it, quality quote Richard, a truly laugh out loud comment! Great TR too [y]

PostPosted: 23 Sep 2007, 19:59
by VS045
Thanks for the excellent TR[y]

Then in true GroundStar tradition, the agent next to her starts to chime in (even though he is serving another passenger) saying I am wrong, and the other agent is correct.


Now I'm not really fan of DIY check-in, but when the agent one has to deal with is more ignorant than certain red cushions, there's no alternative to be honest[xx(]

45.

PostPosted: 23 Sep 2007, 20:07
by buns
Richard

Brilliant TR [y][y]

You are missing your true vocation as a raconteur on a TV chat show[:w]

I agree that LGW ground staff appear not to encounter AUs too often - surprising as LAS must generate some regular traffic

At that point, Clubhouse invitation were handed over, shame they weren't filled in or signed.


At least you were handed an invitation - al I got was 'You know where to find it'

Glad to hear that Rina, Jack and the rest of the crew in the Gatwick Clubhouse continue to make it my favourite

buns

PostPosted: 23 Sep 2007, 20:18
by jaguarpig
Thanks for a top TR[y]

The service or lack of it does sound grim,we had a similar experience on BA going out to HKG last month,fantastic food and drink but the experience totally ruined by a rubbish purser.

Sorry meant to post this for the return TR [:I]

PostPosted: 23 Sep 2007, 22:09
by Wolves27
Great TR Richard. I'm most perplexed by the bizzare silver card check in. Its like the idea came from the kind of person who thinks Upper is 'first class'.

Usual acerbic wit and a great read. Completely forgot you won it in a competition, well done (but I don't feel as sorry for you now [:D][:D])

Dean

PostPosted: 23 Sep 2007, 22:13
by VS075
Originally posted by Bazz
We have done Monarch Crown Service a couple of times it was more than acceptable and better than VS Y.


Says a lot doesn't it Bazz?

PostPosted: 23 Sep 2007, 22:37
by honey lamb
At least you didn't get the 'Are you flying economy?' question I did from the security lady [V]

I have found the placing of the UC desk in LGW behind a pillar to be absolutely bizarre. In every other airport it is prominently placed and guaranteed to strike envy to those not allowed admission to its hallowed portals, but in LGW they almost seem ashamed of it. The Silver Card check-in makes it even more bizarre [:0]

PostPosted: 24 Sep 2007, 09:20
by David
Originally posted by honey lamb

I have found the placing of the UC desk in LGW behind a pillar to be absolutely bizarre. In every other airport it is prominently placed and guaranteed to strike envy to those not allowed admission to its hallowed portals, but in LGW they almost seem ashamed of it. The Silver Card check-in makes it even more bizarre [:0]


Honey Lamb,

Its been moved now - right across the hall to the opposite corner, so sits all on its own ....... next to easyjet and something blue coloured [:p] (name escapes me [:D]), but certainly shows more of a presence now.

It looks like the silver card check in is where it used to be.

David

PostPosted: 24 Sep 2007, 19:39
by ade99
I agree that LGW ground staff appear not to encounter AUs too often - surprising as LAS must generate some regular traffic



I don't understand it personally they always seem so stunned when you give them your au card. When we upgraded the parents to MCO a few months back the guy nearly had a fit on the phone whispering down the phone 'they've got gold cards!!'