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Spurs...How can they be saved?

Posted:
24 Oct 2008, 14:07
by goanmad
How can the Once Mighty Spurs be saved?
There will be many answers, but one that is not going to be discussed please is 'Sacking Juande Ramos' the guy has a hard enough job already.
Is a Director of Football an essential part of modern day Football?
PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NOT A SPURS FAN IN ANY WAY.
I am concerned when English clubs get humiliated in Europe and a once Mighty Club are floundering at the foot of the Premiership[n]
Genuine answers only please, and PLEASE NO MASS HYSTERIA[:o)]

Posted:
24 Oct 2008, 14:31
by RichardMannion
Direct lift from PB:
Madonna is the new favourite to be the next manager of Tottenham Hotspur... she's managed to keep clean sheets for the last 18 months.

Posted:
24 Oct 2008, 14:48
by DarkAuror
I think a DOF has a future, it's just getting it to work in England. It's has worked years in Europe but it's a newish idea in England. It helps to have the DOF and the Manager/1st Team Coach to be singing off the same hymm sheet.
In Spurs case, straight from the off, we needed a left-sided midfielder and another 2 forwards.
It's been speculated that Ramos had a shopping list which included 4 players from Sevilla and Garcia from Athletico Madrid. This list was given to Comelli and Levy. Comelli went out and 'opened' the door for Levy to negotiate and sign Modric, Bentley (who has gone recorded to say he was surprised Spurs wanted him when they've got Aaron Lennon), Del Santos and Gomes.
Throughout the pre-season, Man Utd and Liverpool right from the start were interested in Berbatov and Keane. Martin Jol was in a similar situation when Man Utd wanted Michael Carrick but he was canny enough to see say to the board 'if you want to sell him, do it early so a replacement could be brought for the pre-season'. Lessons weren't learnt and no manager would sell his best two strikers without having replacements signed UNLESS he was overruled by the Chairman. However, what the use of having 50m without giving yourself time to use it on replacements. I don't believe Pavylchenko was a replacement but an addition.
In Comelli's case, the DOF position hasn't worked for him. He came to the club from Arsenal where he had the title of 'Continental Scout'. The player of note that he identified who was signed by Arsenal was Giles Grimaldi. As I've mentioned, he only set up the initial meetings with the players signed this season with Levy actually get involved with the negotiations.
It hasn't helped that Ledley King can only play 1 game every 1-2 weeks. This doesn't help with consistency of the team and I believe if he is not capable of playing every week then to bring in someone who can.
The other problem is confidence, if the team was settled where no was no chopping and changing then that may help. I think that Spurs have not played the same team two games running.
So in short, the following needs to happen.
1. The Manager and Chairman need to understand each other and get the right players for the team and not what the Chairman thinks the team needs.
2. Use the 50m to bring 2 strikers who are proven and a commanding centre half.
3. Settle the team, don't keep chop and changing players in hope of trying to find a successful side.
As for English clubs being humilated in Europe, only Spurs and Portsmouth lost! An in Spurs' case, it was down to two stupid mistakes (Gomes giving away the penalty and O'Hara getting sent off).

Posted:
24 Oct 2008, 14:50
by DarkAuror
Originally posted by RichardMannion
Direct lift from PB:
Madonna is the new favourite to be the next manager of Tottenham Hotspur... she's managed to keep clean sheets for the last 18 months.
LOL!! [:D][:D]

Posted:
24 Oct 2008, 15:59
by thejohn
as a spurs fan i can see no end to our demise until we get 2 top rate strikers hopefully in the jan window i was sad when we brought Bent as i have never rated him and he has had little or no impact, and to sell the other 3 strikers berb keane defoe and not replace even 1 of them is pure madness, no manager could make a team out of that shambles.

Posted:
24 Oct 2008, 17:40
by n/a
1. More strikers
2. A true leader in defense (a la Rio)
3. Stop tinkering with the bloody line-up in every game (I do hang this on Wanda Ramos)
I take no joy in Hotspur's demise, and I do hope they stay up.
GJ

Posted:
24 Oct 2008, 17:45
by DarkAuror
Originally posted by GrinningJackanapes
1. More strikers
2. A true leader in defense (a la Rio)
3. Stop tinkering with the bloody line-up in every game (I do hang this on Wanda Ramos)
I take no joy in Hotspur's demise, and I do hope they stay up.
GJ
A Manc and a Spurs fan in agreement! [:D][:D]

Posted:
24 Oct 2008, 19:51
by goanmad
Originally posted by thejohn
as a spurs fan i can see no end to our demise until we get 2 top rate strikers hopefully in the jan window i was sad when we brought Bent as i have never rated him and he has had little or no impact, and to sell the other 3 strikers berb keane defoe and not replace even 1 of them is pure madness, no manager could make a team out of that shambles.
I have said this before, as an ardent Ipswich fan we would gladly have Benty back at Portman Road[?][y] So fingers crossed we can do a loan deal in January[:o)] Then who will play upfront for you[:w] But this has not bothered the senior hierachy before has it[:p]
Originally posted by GJ
1. More strikers
2. A true leader in defense (a la Rio)
3. Stop tinkering with the bloody line-up in every game (I do hang this on Wanda Ramos)
I take no joy in Hotspur's demise, and I do hope they stay up.
GJ
I agree with your points GJ, maybe not getting so many players sent off may help as well?
The great Sir Bobby Robson always said a settled team was a winning team, how very true this was for Ipswich during his awesome reign as Manager?
Originally posted by RichardMannion
Direct lift from PB:
Madonna is the new favourite to be the next manager of Tottenham Hotspur... she's managed to keep clean sheets for the last 18 months
[^] Excellent, like that one Richard[y]

Posted:
26 Oct 2008, 01:04
by DarkAuror
This club that I support by the morning will the laughing stock of the footballing world.
I'm off to shot myself. [;)]

Posted:
26 Oct 2008, 12:13
by DarkAuror
Originally posted by DarkAuror
This club that I support by the morning will the laughing stock of the footballing world.
I'm off to shot myself. [;)]
I shall retract the previous statement in the cold light of a new morning. Can't believe within an hour of sacking Ramos, 'Arry has been installed as the new manager!!!
He has a proven record of getting the best out of underperforming players and getting out of relegation scraps. Could he be the saviour of Spurs?

Posted:
26 Oct 2008, 12:51
by goanmad
Originally posted by DarkAuror
Originally posted by DarkAuror
This club that I support by the morning will the laughing stock of the footballing world.
I'm off to shot myself. [;)]
I shall retract the previous statement in the cold light of a new morning. Can't believe within an hour of sacking Ramos, 'Arry has been installed as the new manager!!!
He has a proven record of getting the best out of underperforming players and getting out of relegation scraps. Could he be the saviour of Spurs?
Good Luck Harry and Spurs[y]
At least the Dir of Footie has been booted out as well and not a moment too soon (What a muppett)[^]
If anyone can, 'Arry can[oo]

Posted:
26 Oct 2008, 13:37
by Scrooge
until he goes back to Portsmouth again

Posted:
26 Oct 2008, 14:54
by RichardMannion
The Legend that is Harry Redknapp:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=51t293goB9oA long time ago when he was managing West Ham, I was on a tour of the ground during matchday and there was Harry sat in his office about 90 mins before kick off, sat reading the Sporting Life. Absolute classic.

Posted:
26 Oct 2008, 18:25
by goanmad
Originally posted by Scrooge
until he goes back to Portsmouth again
Ah, that will be Boomerang Redknapp then[?]

Posted:
26 Oct 2008, 18:57
by goanmad
Well done Harry a win at the first time of asking.
Can Tottenham get in a Champions League spot? Or is that asking the impossible?[}:)]

Posted:
26 Oct 2008, 19:47
by thejohn
wishful thinking for this year but I feel better now that they have cleared the decks of the dead wood you never know... arry could work wonders for us. come on you spurs!!!!

Posted:
26 Oct 2008, 20:33
by Scrooge
I will be happy if we can stay up this year, I know it sounds bad, but the team is pretty bad, a lot I am sure is down to lack of confidence, however a win is a win and it cannot do any harm to their egos.

Posted:
27 Oct 2008, 10:36
by DarkAuror
And Ledley King played two games running!

Posted:
27 Oct 2008, 19:40
by thejohn
he and the rest of the defence wont play many more if gomes keeps taking them out ! I will call arry god and take back all thats gone before if we can get a result wed against ars***l and we stay up.
yiiiiiiids

Posted:
30 Oct 2008, 15:12
by Missy-Tank
After last nights draw with Arsenal I think Tottenham will be alright.

Posted:
30 Oct 2008, 18:21
by Alex V
Looking forward to watching spurs up at norwich next season!
Lets be,avin you
cheers
alex

Posted:
30 Oct 2008, 18:31
by Scrooge
I am just happy that the power of the Dead Mickey is working it's magic

Posted:
30 Oct 2008, 18:46
by Flashboy
Well as the wonderfull SKY decided not to show MAN UTD[V]
I took the liberty of watching SPURS v ARSENAL in my local watering hole near Baker St Tube St
What a game [oo]
I must say I think SPURS are saved by the mighty REDKNAPP

Posted:
30 Oct 2008, 20:01
by goanmad
Originally posted by av_norw792
Looking forward to watching spurs up at norwich next season!
Lets be,avin you
cheers
alex
Yeah, be really good to see 'Harrys Boys' thump the Budgies[}:)]

Posted:
01 Nov 2008, 21:31
by Scrooge
The power of the Dead Mickey cannot be ignored [y]