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#961485 by Gavin
05 May 2023, 12:17
Having flown in the new A350 PE seat 6 times this year, I have come to the conclusion... it's rubbish!

The seat feels far too narrow on a night flight and the middle arm rest is so small you have to fight to place drinks down with your neighbour.

I felt it more on night flights- it was just too narrow for me, felt like a Economy seat, I am thinking maybe extra legroom or Delight seats are a better option, unless they have shrunk those as well?
#961488 by Dohabear
05 May 2023, 15:53
I like PE whatever the type but you are right to say it is narrower, in fact a whole 3 inches compared to a 787 or A330-300. 18 inches on the A350 & A330 neo . So I always pick 787/330-300 over any others in premium. But on the reverse side you get a better t.v screen on the newer types.
#961489 by TimCrawley
05 May 2023, 16:33
Slightly off-topic as refers to Upper rather than PE but .....

Having just flown Business / Upper with Condor in February to Cuba and VS to Jamaica in March I am now finding the VS flip-over seats in Upper very uncomfortable in comparison (first world problem, I know). There was a time when the VS flip-over seats were a real innovation that meant you got a fully flat bed and everyone having aisle access whereas many others on KLM & the like (that slid and used the normal seat padding itself to sleep on) came several degrees short of fully flat and/or didn't all have aisle access - now they do go fully flat with aisle access on most other airlines in Business the slide style are so much more comfortable, imho.

Food-wise there is no comparison as VS seem to have gone from great to just ok - Condor was so much better than VS in both variety and quantity (the 4 starters on Condor were not an 'or', you got all 4!) - so, having not flown BA for 4+ years, I wonder if they too have caught up or overtaken what used to be a very nice food offering on VS.
#961490 by hunterdwmgzt
05 May 2023, 21:10
3 inches narrower-wow! Surely brand new product offerings need to be as good, if not better, than an existing product. How can Virgin possibly think this is a good move. Do they really believe degrading their product is going to attract customers?
#961512 by EmmaPeel007
09 May 2023, 15:48
Absolutely agree. We flew LAX-LHR round trip in March. Coupled with the strange foot rest set-up it was really hard to get comfortable. I could at least get a few hours sleep on the 787s. These, not so much.
#961519 by Gavin
10 May 2023, 10:55
Those 3 inches mean they get an extra seat in per row.
On a day flight it was fine, but a red eye it was horrible, you have no chance of getting sleep.
#961528 by G-VROY
11 May 2023, 16:17
Is this the same for the 339?

Was looking at into MCO and back from TPA which would mean PE on a 339 for the return..
#961558 by EstelleB
14 May 2023, 15:58
Pretty sure it was a 350 we flew back on last time from MCO and I wholeheartedly agree. I so miss the bubble!
#961583 by Dohabear
16 May 2023, 13:39
It is the same seat on the A330-900neo as the A350 in premium. 18.5 inches wide to be precise, so yes significantly less width than the A330-300 & the B787.
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