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#261515 by jumpingmatt
05 Dec 2009, 18:19
Hi,

My wife and I will be travelling UC to LAX with our 4 year old daughter next year. Im wondering if one of us would be able to sit at her suites ottoman during take and landing so we can ensure she stays strapped in and seated?

I couldnt find anything on the VS site specific to this.

Thanks for any info or advice.

Cheers.
#731354 by Neil
05 Dec 2009, 18:50
I am pretty certain the answer is no. I have personally never seen anyone do it and never read about anyone doing it. There are a few members on here who have had to adopt some very interesting tactics to keep their young children in their suites and I am sure they would have used the ottoman if it was possible.

A quick call to VS should clarify.
#731355 by tontybear
05 Dec 2009, 18:54
Am sure the answer would be a firm NO ! Alhough there is a belt on the ottoman there is no back or other support which could cause you or your wife serious back injury for anything other than a normal landing.
#731357 by DragonLady
05 Dec 2009, 19:23
I'm sure the answer is no.You may need to invest in a supply of the little ones favourite sweeties instead. It has been known for fellow v- flyers to launch these at their small ones in order for said child to remain in situ so to speak during take off and landing. mdvipond is the man to speak with as he's a bit of a mastercraftsman with regard to this (and Northernhenry may have also had to resort to said tactics on his latest trip).
DL
#731358 by HighFlyer
05 Dec 2009, 19:23
Its a no. You could ask Mr Vipond to teach you the 'throwing M&M's trick' to help keep her belted in? I find several mojitos in the clubhouse do it for me, ut probably not best advised for a 4 year old.

Have you requested your seats yet? It might be worth getting her sat opposite you if possible so you can keep an eye on her during take-off?

Thanks,
Sarah
#731359 by declansmith
05 Dec 2009, 20:03
Sadly Ottoman cannot be used for take off and landing.

Little one will have to sit on there own and its recommended to have one parent behind and one parent sat opposite.

Seatbelt on the ottoman can be used inflight if you have a guest at your seat when the seatbelt sign is illuminated.

Hope this helps
#731360 by honey lamb
05 Dec 2009, 20:08
I was on a flight where a 2 year old in her own seat was crying and very unsettled at being on her own in the suite. Mum was allowed to sit on the ottoman during taxi but, at a nod from the cabin crew she had quickly to take her seat just before the aircraft turned on to the runway. It would not have been allowed if the little one had not been so distressed.
#731362 by jumpingmatt
05 Dec 2009, 21:13
Thanks for all the responses folks, much appreciated.

I can only seem to reserve sequential seats not opposite facing for our booking of 3 pax using the VS site I think a call to VS as suggested is in order.

Cheers everyone,

Matt
#731366 by n/a
06 Dec 2009, 00:08
quote:Originally posted by HighFlyer
I find several mojitos in the clubhouse do it for me


Several mojitos in me and I can't be kept from roaming the UCS and pawing the other pax. [:I]

GJ
#731396 by Howard Long
06 Dec 2009, 20:00
FWIW, just for memory's sake, back in the old days when they had a sofa in UC, you could sit their for landing. Or at least I saw it happen, I am not sure if it was necessarily in the rulz assuch.

Cheers, H
#731440 by jumpingmatt
07 Dec 2009, 13:49
Just spoke with FC and they have booked me two adjacent seats and one opposite facing so we can keep an eye on darling daughter. I'll talk to the crew once on board about the possibility of sitting belted at the ottoman during taxi and then moving to my seat before takeoff.

Cheers,

Matt
#731636 by Guest
08 Dec 2009, 22:36
I recently travelled with my (just) 2 year old and was allowed to stay on the ottoman whilst taxi-ing but had to sit in my seat for take off and landing on the outbound flight (I sat opposite with his dad in the seat behind). Crew on the return flight were not so agreeable [V]

Take off was fine but landing, being a bit more drawn out was slightly more of a challenge. I lost count of the number of times the crew came back to switch off the call light and put the drinks tray back up!
#731641 by Darren Wheeler
09 Dec 2009, 00:30
quote:Originally posted by wornoutmum
Crew on the return flight were not so agreeable [V]



I take it you mean they wouldn't let you sit on the ottoman during taxiing?

While it may have been inconvenient, their No.1 concern would be the safety of your 2-year old, yourself, the rest of the passengers and that of themselves.
#731642 by n/a
09 Dec 2009, 00:43
quote:Originally posted by Darren Wheeler
quote:Originally posted by wornoutmum
Crew on the return flight were not so agreeable [V]



I take it you mean they wouldn't let you sit on the ottoman during taxiing?

While it may have been inconvenient, their No.1 concern would be the safety of your 2-year old, yourself, the rest of the passengers and that of themselves.


I don't discount your comment at all Darren FletcherWheeler, however, it would be interesting to know if there were additional circumstances afoot to create a safety situation that precluded ottoman perching on the return flight or if, as we have sadly seen, there's merely a capricious inconsistency around this, and so many other, policies.

GJ
#731733 by Guest
10 Dec 2009, 21:33
The crew on our return flight were IMHO, pretty poor. That said, I think the reason they said no to me sitting on the ottoman on the return was because they thought I was asking to sit there for landing rather than just until we got to closer to the ground. By this time I was too tired to argue so just gave up!
#731736 by tontybear
10 Dec 2009, 22:17
Might not the 'inconsistency' be due to possible different rules imposed by the FAA and CAA?
#731783 by buns
12 Dec 2009, 06:52
quote:Originally posted by tontybear
Might not the 'inconsistency' be due to possible different rules imposed by the FAA and CAA?




I think this would not have been the case as Wornoutmum was coming back from Dubai -

I am sure the original question has been answered and what w have discovered is that in exceptional circumstances (and I am sure that will include the demeanour of the parent) that some little latitude might be allowed - at the discretion of the crew who would ultimately have to take responsibility should there be a problem as a result

buns
#731786 by tontybear
12 Dec 2009, 12:47
Ah getting coinfused between where the OP and respondants have gone / are going to
#731802 by Bill S
12 Dec 2009, 22:22
Beware that this can happen!
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