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#845764 by slinky09
12 May 2013, 00:51
I think it's incredibly selfish to consider putting a baby animal through such a harsh and stressful experience. I also think that buying any puppy from a shop should be banned - strikes me as puppy farming of the worst kind. It sounds to me like you and your girlfriend want a trophy dog each and don't want to engage with a registered breeder in the UK - perhaps the farmed variety are cheaper (although buying there and transporting home can't be cheaper than a good pedigree reared in the UK). Strong words perhaps but not as harsh as my first draft reply.

I very much agree with:

AndyK wrote:So you're going to line the pockets of a breeder and then put the dog through the horrible experience of a long flight?
Meanwhile you could choose from 1000s of rescue dogs in the UK.
grr
#845770 by RachelCox
12 May 2013, 10:02
I don't want to offend, but the use of the word 'teacup' tells you everything you need to know. Decent breeders would not use the word teacup to describe a puppy.
#845775 by joeyc
12 May 2013, 11:47
Not to throw gasoline on the fire but this trending petition with the UK government at the moment is quiet relevent to this conversation.

Perhaps not a blanket ban under the conditions stated but definitely a more aggressive enforcement of animal cruelty laws.

Sorry Fordie, I have to say I agree with most on here. There are plenty of dogs (and other pets) needing a home in the UK.. you may even find some 'teacup' puppies that have been abandoned whose owners had simply done with them. Please don't put a puppy (or any animal) through international transit unless you absolutely have to.
#845798 by Fordie
12 May 2013, 17:11
flabound wrote:
gilly wrote:If you wish to purchase while in the US, have you considered travelling back on the Queen Mary 2 from New York? They have kennels on board - and it's a GREAT way to cross the Atlantic.



funny you should mention this option. we were facing the possibility of having to return to England with our mastiff (ok to fly ,he went LHR-MIA 2 yars ago) plus our Boston Terrier...we looked at the QM2 which is the only boat allowed to bring in dogs....fully booked (the kennels that is) until July 2014 !!!!!!!!!!!!! :(

fortunately our problem was resolved as we were granted our green card on Monday y)



Hey everyone,

Just to inform everybody that the idea of bringing a puppy home is now off after considering it all it is silly for a puppy to deal with the flights.

And you got granted a green card? Can I ask how long it took for you to get one? And also how you went about getting one? I want to eventually move out to Florida to live and found it hard to know which route to go down?

But off topic but ohwell!:)
#845800 by Fordie
12 May 2013, 17:39
flabound wrote:fordie...i will send you a pm ...the answer is a long time and a lot of money.............


Thanks flabound I look forward to your pm.

But the question is was it all worth it? I want to love out there by time I'm 30 or 35. And by that time have enough money to start a business
#845813 by tontybear
12 May 2013, 23:55
Fordie wrote: I want to love out there by time I'm 30 or 35.


Is gigolo on the list of shortage occupations ??? :o) :o) :o)
#845842 by Fordie
13 May 2013, 20:04
tontybear wrote:
Fordie wrote: I want to love out there by time I'm 30 or 35.


Is gigolo on the list of shortage occupations ??? :o) :o) :o)



Haha well a boy can have dreams :) I have set the bar high which I will hit!! :). Sadly no gigolo work.

I may not retire to America so young but I will set up business out there:)
#845858 by RobL
14 May 2013, 04:19
I agree with the majority and see no need to fly animals under any circumstance.

However, I am surprised, or maybe I shouldn't be, at the amount of negativity towards the concept of flying a puppy. After all every day baby humans are exposed to the process and they of course know who to deal with the pressure changes - not.

The law forbids smacking children but exposing them, particularly babies, to the resultant excruciating pain involved if they can't equalise the pressure is apparently absolutely fine. And please don't say its OK as their parents, or guardians, are with them as would it also be OK if the puppy's parents were with it?

Not trying to be provocative just being taking the principle further. ):
#845876 by tontybear
14 May 2013, 13:27
RobL I don't think that comparison is valid.

Least of all because a baby will be in the main cabin with parents who will be able to feed it, comfort it, keep it warm etc.

A puppy will be kept in it's small travel container, in the (cold) hold with no food for the entire flight and no access to extra water if it drinks what is in it's bowl on departure or it gets spilt. No chance to walk around and no human company.
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