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#943976 by gumshoe
30 May 2018, 11:35
VS are currently leasing some ex-Air Berlin Airbus A330s to cover for a shortage of Dreamliners due to engine issues.

Those planes have not yet had the VS UC suites fitted and still have the old Air Berlin business class seats. That’s what you’re being warned about.

However they’re not currently scheduled to fly to MCO so you should have the normal seats on a 747.
#943980 by SlimpyJones
30 May 2018, 12:41
There has been mention of a brand new upper class seat being fitted to the A350s when they come into service, as well as fitted to the A332s in time. However there's no information on this alleged new seat yet.
#943983 by Kraken
30 May 2018, 14:17
SlimpyJones wrote:There has been mention of a brand new upper class seat being fitted to the A350s when they come into service, as well as fitted to the A332s in time. However there's no information on this alleged new seat yet.


When I saw the title of this thread, I did wonder if it was VS announcing a "new" Upper Class seat. The existing UC Suite design must be about 14yrs old (think they started to roll it out in about 2004) and hasn't changed much, if at all. The main changes have been the cutbacks to service & amenity kit offering and the failed Dream Suite on the 330's which is being removed.

I would guess any new Upper Class seat would be pretty similar to what we have now. It is a good design that has stood the test of time well.
#943984 by tontybear
30 May 2018, 14:25
the only real fail of the UC seat is having to get up to turn it into a bed and because of that the limited recline - so for me in seat mode it dosen't recline enough but the bed mode is too much recline!

I wonder who'll have a newest J seat - VS or BA?
#943987 by seany
30 May 2018, 16:20
I'm a totally loyal VS flyer, and didn't fly any other airline long haul for 15 years until last month when I flew business on Qatar Airways. I love the Upper Class Suite, but compared to other offering out there such as Qatar, it is pretty inferior these days. Still miles better than BA though!
#943991 by mitchja
30 May 2018, 16:32
seany wrote:I'm a totally loyal VS flyer, and didn't fly any other airline long haul for 15 years until last month when I flew business on Qatar Airways. I love the Upper Class Suite, but compared to other offering out there such as Qatar, it is pretty inferior these days. Still miles better than BA though!


Doesn’t that depend on what QR seat you get though depending on which A/C you fly on?

Excluding the current VS A332 A/C (which is being addressed), at least VS (and also BA) have a consistent product across their fleet. The likes or QR and EK still have several different seats for the same cabins across their fleet.
#944004 by Hamster
31 May 2018, 10:52
Yes have heard VS are getting a new seat design on the A350, like BA are. Virgin should get a A350 first thought I think, will be interesting to see the differences or if both thinking along the same lines!

Qatar are only fitting the Q-suite to 777's, it will not be on new aircraft and a rumour that their next business with be '8' abreast like BA's current offering.
#944006 by CommanderB
31 May 2018, 11:33
My money is on a slightly different visual style of what DL already have in their A350's.
#944012 by getinjonathan
31 May 2018, 13:23
CommanderB wrote:My money is on a slightly different visual style of what DL already have in their A350's.


I don't think for one minute VS will look at that new Delta Suite for inspiration. I flew it to Korea and it's nothing special at all. Same seat as those found on Delta One fitted aircraft, same operational capabilities - only difference is you get a door. VS will surely invent something spectacular for this new fleet of planes and not stick with the same product they've had for over a decade.

The seat on QR's A350 is in my opinion the most perfect seat on the market. I classed my return flight to Adelaide last January as one of the best flights I've ever taken.
#944015 by jamiegood
31 May 2018, 13:43
We have booked upper for the first time next year so all will be new and luxurious to us lol but from reading some planes are starting to show their age it’s luck of the draw to what you get we doing the Lgw to Mco route so more Holiday than business
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