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#961999 by 5549
20 Sep 2021, 15:52
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES.

I don't get excited about much these days but YES!
Last edited by mitchja on 20 Sep 2021, 15:55, edited 1 time in total. Reason: Removed bad language
#962000 by 5549
20 Sep 2021, 15:57
Bad language... hehehe... sorry I did *** out the word :D

Anyway, USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!
#962007 by zjc
20 Sep 2021, 19:01
Annoying that no date has been mentioned for people who have flight at the start of November!
#962013 by David
21 Sep 2021, 07:18
From the BBC - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58628491

“ A White House source told the BBC that the question of whether people who have had the AstraZeneca vaccine or 12- to 18-year-olds who have only had one jab would be allowed in under the new rules was a level of "granular detail" that was still being worked out, though this would affect millions.“

Guess what vaccine I’ve had ? >-(

David
#962018 by mitchja
21 Sep 2021, 08:41
David wrote:From the BBC - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58628491

“ A White House source told the BBC that the question of whether people who have had the AstraZeneca vaccine or 12- to 18-year-olds who have only had one jab would be allowed in under the new rules was a level of "granular detail" that was still being worked out, though this would affect millions.“

Guess what vaccine I’ve had ? >-(

David


Having the AstraZeneca vaccine won't be an issue as it's on the approved WHO list of COVID-19 vaccines. It's also the second most widely distributed COVID-19 vaccine behind the Pfizer version.

It’s been reported in various places already but here is one example via MSN:


What constitutes “fully vaccinated”?
A person who has completed, at least two weeks ago, a course of jabs with a vaccine authorised for emergency use by the World Health Organisation (WHO). These are Oxford AstraZeneca, Janssen (Johnson & Johnson), Moderna,and Pfizer/BioNTech, as well as two Chinese vaccines: Sinopharm and Sinovac.

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC, the health regulator in the US) says explicitly that its guidance on what constitutes being fully vaccinated applies to Oxford AstraZeneca, wherever it was manufactured.

(The US Food & Drug Administration recognises fewer vaccines, and has not yet approved Oxford AstraZeneca, but that is not relevant to travellers – WHO recognition is sufficient.)

#962019 by mikethe3rd
21 Sep 2021, 09:34
Re: 12-18yo. The only notable thing in Jen’s press conference yesterday was “adult foreign nationals flying to the United States be fully vaccinated.”

I wouldn’t take that as gospel as she didn’t know much detail in a later follow up question, but she was reading from a script at the time she mentioned adults. It’s at 47:30 in that YouTube link above.
#962024 by David
21 Sep 2021, 11:35
mitchja wrote:
David wrote:From the BBC - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58628491

“ A White House source told the BBC that the question of whether people who have had the AstraZeneca vaccine or 12- to 18-year-olds who have only had one jab would be allowed in under the new rules was a level of "granular detail" that was still being worked out, though this would affect millions.“

Guess what vaccine I’ve had ? >-(

David


Having the AstraZeneca vaccine won't be an issue as it's on the approved WHO list of COVID-19 vaccines. It's also the second most widely distributed COVID-19 vaccine behind the Pfizer version.

It’s been reported in various places already but here is one example via MSN:


What constitutes “fully vaccinated”?
A person who has completed, at least two weeks ago, a course of jabs with a vaccine authorised for emergency use by the World Health Organisation (WHO). These are Oxford AstraZeneca, Janssen (Johnson & Johnson), Moderna,and Pfizer/BioNTech, as well as two Chinese vaccines: Sinopharm and Sinovac.

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC, the health regulator in the US) says explicitly that its guidance on what constitutes being fully vaccinated applies to Oxford AstraZeneca, wherever it was manufactured.

(The US Food & Drug Administration recognises fewer vaccines, and has not yet approved Oxford AstraZeneca, but that is not relevant to travellers – WHO recognition is sufficient.)



Thanks James - now to find some flights and accommodation :D
#962094 by David
29 Sep 2021, 07:04
Kinda of lost track after the last few manic days. Has the actual opening date been announced yet or are we still “November” ?

Thanks

David
#962095 by VIR75L
29 Sep 2021, 07:36
The 1st November is the target date, but nothing has been officially announced. I guess they don’t want to announce a date and then have to change it - much like the goalposts that they’re changing in pretty much ever FCDO meeting and have been for the last 6 months from what I understand.
#962133 by David
01 Oct 2021, 06:52
One of my buddies has just come back from a trip to London to the US embassy (applying for a Visa to allow him to go and get married and ultimately a green card)

He was told that Nov 1st is the target date but many parts of the new procedures are still to be finalised.

His take and I stress, his take on it was that there could be a problem with children aged 12-16 where a waiver might have to be signed to get their second jab in the US along with other waivers for everyone saying that anyone who catches covid whilst in the US cannot take any action or apportion any blame to anyone in the US.

I’m guessing it will not be the relatively straight forward procedure we are all waiting and hoping for up of course, as in everything that’s happened over the last 18 months, the end result could be much, much different.

David
#962143 by mitchja
01 Oct 2021, 11:54
Barbados are doing similar waivers, certainly the Crane Resort asks you to sign something similar stating you won't hold them responsible for anything COVID-19 related, essentially saying 'you enter at your own risk'
#962230 by flyingfox
05 Oct 2021, 10:00
Couldn’t agree more with this article from the Independent and Simon Calder it’s so frustrating that we have no idea of a date when the US will open up, I fear as the days countdown it will eat into the November possible resumption date;

Government frustrated at US failure to reveal date country will open up to British travellers
With as little as four weeks to go, Washington still has not named date to lift restrictions


The British government is getting increasingly frustrated at the failure of Joe Biden’s administration to name a precise date for the lifting of travel restrictions, with just weeks to go until air travel to the US is supposed to resume.

The White House said on 20 September that fully vaccinated foreign nationals will be allowed to enter the US from “early November”, but the US Department for Transportation today told The Independent it had no further information about exactly when the change will be implemented.

It leaves thousands of UK passengers in limbo waiting to hear when they can visit family and friends in the US or take holidays in popular destinations like New York, Florida or California.

And it means airlines are making extensive preparations for a massive surge of demand from as early as 1 November, without any certainty over when passengers will in fact be able to travel.

The source admitted the UK was “blindsided” by President Biden’s announcement last month that he was relaxing restrictions for visitors from countries around the world.



The announcement came just after Boris Johnson told reporters that he had little hope of securing any easing of restrictions in an Oval Office meeting with the president scheduled for the following day.

Despite having set up a joint travel taskforce with the US, Britain was given no notice of the announcement, the senior source confirmed. And the lack of communication has continued since that point.

Asked when vaccinated UK travellers will be able to fly freely to the US, the senior UK government source told The Independent:

“Your guess is as good as mine, They haven’t told us anything about the date. The White House are in charge of the policy and it’s very difficult to work out what is going on.”

In response to a query about the date for the resumption of travel, the US Department of Transportation said only: “We have no updates or new information at this time.


The silence from Washington appeared to reflect the lower priority placed on relations with the UK since Mr Biden’s arrival in office. It emerged as Brexit minister David Frost risked ruffling American feathers by saying that the president should not intervene in negotiations between London and Brussels over the Irish border.

Virgin Atlantic announced last week it would resume daily operations on its most-booked route – from Heathrow to Orlando – as well as flights to Las Vegas from 1 November, while the airline has already restarted flights to San Fransisco after an 18-month break. BA is also laying on additional flights from the start of the month.

Mr Biden’s green light to visit prompted a surge in bookings from Brits eager to go to the States, with Virgin recording an increase of more than 600 per cent. Some popular tickets have already sold out for the first days of November.

Before the arrival of the coronavirus pandemic, an average 100,000 travellers from the UK crossed the Atlantic to the US by air each week. The majority of those were taking holidays, but more than 20,000 were visiting friends and family.

Neither BA nor Virgin made any immediate response to queries about the uncertainty surrounding the relaxation of US controls.

But Simon Calder, travel correspondent of The Independent, said: “With just four weeks to go before a possible reopening of the US to UK and EU visitors, airline executives are tearing their hair out. Having been starved for 18 months of the most lucrative aviation market in the world, they are desperate to cash in on the surge of demand that will accompany the opening up of transatlantic routes.

“But they certainly don’t want to schedule any flights that then turn out to be half-empty because the ban hasn’t been lifted.”


Article here
#962231 by gumshoe
05 Oct 2021, 13:01
I think the “lower priority on relations with the UK” line is stretching credibility a bit.

That may or may not be true, but we’re just one of dozens of countries affected by the proclamation.

I suspect the truth is fairly dull - early November remains the target but there are lots of minute details to be ironed out involving lots of agencies and lots of meetings, and bureaucracy takes time.
#962232 by Kraken
05 Oct 2021, 14:12
flyingfox wrote:Couldn’t agree more with this article from the Independent and Simon Calder it’s so frustrating that we have no idea of a date when the US will open up, I fear as the days countdown it will eat into the November possible resumption date;


I treat anything Simon Calder writes with more than a large bag of salt. Some of the stuff he comes out with in his "travel expert" role is far from accurate IMO.
#962233 by ColOrd
05 Oct 2021, 14:44
Kraken wrote:I treat anything Simon Calder writes with more than a large bag of salt. Some of the stuff he comes out with in his "travel expert" role is far from accurate IMO.


Huge +1 for this from me!
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