mdvipond wrote:Cancun? Why?
Low risk, sure fire money winner I guess.
But true, not very adventurous is it!
Low risk, sure fire money winner I guess.
But true, not very adventurous is it!
There's a plane at JFK, to fly you back from far away
all those dark and frantic transatlantic miles
all those dark and frantic transatlantic miles
Assuming that the left hand knows what the right hand is doing...
..is that a post refurbishment 747 mentioned? In which case the numbers and seat configuration (and ?cabin layout) seem to be as now on the LGW/MAN fleet. y)
..is that a post refurbishment 747 mentioned? In which case the numbers and seat configuration (and ?cabin layout) seem to be as now on the LGW/MAN fleet. y)
Somewhere in Canada would be much nicer.
Even less likely to take the Cancun flight as it's from LGW
Even less likely to take the Cancun flight as it's from LGW
HWVlover wrote:Assuming that the left hand knows what the right hand is doing...
..is that a post refurbishment 747 mentioned? In which case the numbers and seat configuration (and ?cabin layout) seem to be as now on the LGW/MAN fleet. y)
Don't think they have actually thought that far ahead do you ):
David
mdvipond wrote:Cancun? Why?
Easy money, that's why. Cancun is a busy tourist destination (particularly for AI options) and the charter airlines have had the monopoly unless you want to change in MIA. Personally it's not my cup of tea, but if you want to visit places like Chitzen Itza and Tullum it's the only real option (which is why I flew in there).
There's also an MO in Riviera Maya
.DL
Yay a new destination!!!!!
A new destination wherever it may be (and whether it is from Heathrow or Gatwick) is ALWAYS good news.
A new destination wherever it may be (and whether it is from Heathrow or Gatwick) is ALWAYS good news.
Of course, in these straitened times the introduction of any new route should be seen as a good sign for the industry. It's just that as a destination, it doesn't strike me as very 'Virgin Atlantic'. Thomas Cook, perhaps, but not VS...
A new destination is a new destination.....
There are some lovely hotels in Riveria Maya, also VX connect from here too so you could fly via LAX/SFO/SEA then connect to CUN and then fly directly home from there.
I'd certainly be interested!
There are some lovely hotels in Riveria Maya, also VX connect from here too so you could fly via LAX/SFO/SEA then connect to CUN and then fly directly home from there.
I'd certainly be interested!
I guess it links in nicely with VH.
Hamster wrote:Somewhere in Canada would be much nicer.
Even less likely to take the Cancun flight as it's from LGW
ditto - am a big fan of canada here. Toronto or Vancouver would be great
Huzzah for International Jet-setting !
tontybear wrote:Hamster wrote:Somewhere in Canada would be much nicer.
Even less likely to take the Cancun flight as it's from LGW
ditto - am a big fan of canada here. Toronto or Vancouver would be great
I'll third Toronto...... or Seattle or San Diego. NOT Cancun (or Cancant as it should be known herinafter v( )
Question time.... How many people here have been to Cancun ?
I have to ask, if only due to the responses, it has left me wondering if anyone has actually been and realizes what a fab place it is.
I have to ask, if only due to the responses, it has left me wondering if anyone has actually been and realizes what a fab place it is.
Oh I'm sure its a great place but one that just dosen't appeal - I don't do 'hot' - just like Florida and Vegas don't appeal.
My perference for a canadian destination is just that -pure personal preference as its somewhere I will revisit and it would be great of VS flew there
My perference for a canadian destination is just that -pure personal preference as its somewhere I will revisit and it would be great of VS flew there
Huzzah for International Jet-setting !
I'll agree, Cancun appears to me to be an opportunity to squeeze revenue out of the fleet - perhaps replacing Kingston.
It may not be a big deal, it may not be where people would prefer, but it's a commercial operation so why not?
Yes, I too would prefer Rio or BA, over Cancun, but there we have it. And I am sure that crew will love it, if it's biweekly it means three or four night trips for them!
It may not be a big deal, it may not be where people would prefer, but it's a commercial operation so why not?
Yes, I too would prefer Rio or BA, over Cancun, but there we have it. And I am sure that crew will love it, if it's biweekly it means three or four night trips for them!
There's a plane at JFK, to fly you back from far away
all those dark and frantic transatlantic miles
all those dark and frantic transatlantic miles
#782755 by Guest
16 Jun 2011, 19:17
16 Jun 2011, 19:17
OMG what an elitist thread: and some comments by those that go to Barbabdos FFS !
I haven't been to Cancun but e are delighted by a new route and certainly will try it for myself before being so negative
I haven't been to Cancun but e are delighted by a new route and certainly will try it for myself before being so negative
hectershouse wrote:OMG what an elitist thread: and some comments by those that go to Barbabdos FFS !
I haven't been to Cancun but e are delighted by a new route and certainly will try it for myself before being so negative
How is it elitist? People are just giving their personal opinion on the new route?
hectershouse wrote:OMG what an elitist thread: and some comments by those that go to Barbabdos FFS !
I haven't been to Cancun but e are delighted by a new route and certainly will try it for myself before being so negative
Barbabdos?never been there lol!
I hear your points though, but VS will never please everyone! As I've said above, any new route is a good thing but I value the many views of those on here who are crying out for another route.
Canada, Seattle, Denver, Rio and BA would be lovely buy as Slinky says - VS are the experts and the money is clearly is on CUN.
#782760 by Guest
16 Jun 2011, 19:25
16 Jun 2011, 19:25
Luke085 wrote:hectershouse wrote:OMG what an elitist thread: and some comments by those that go to Barbabdos FFS !
I haven't been to Cancun but e are delighted by a new route and certainly will try it for myself before being so negative
Barbabdos?never been there lol!
I hear your points though, but VS will never please everyone! As I've said above, any new route is a good thing but I value the many views of those on here who are crying out for another route.
Canada, Seattle, Denver, Rio and BA would be lovely buy as Slinky says - VS are the experts and the money is clearly is on CUN.
It was the sneery comment about thomas cook and the like.
I agree Luke - I am sure Virgin know their business better than anyone on here could second guess .
I take scrooges point to - how many of us have been there ? Mmmm
Is it just me or is everyone missing the point here.
Cancun will run out of LGW with the rest of the B&S routes. VH will get a nice new destination to add to their brochures - both as a single destination and as a two-centre to mix with Florida and the Caribbean. Other holiday companies without their own charter airline (i.e. Kuoni) will also pick up on this to help sell the seats either for beach breaks or as a route into tours around Mexico.
All of this will provide a steady revenue stream to support the route before any direct bookers get involved.
Cancun will run out of LGW with the rest of the B&S routes. VH will get a nice new destination to add to their brochures - both as a single destination and as a two-centre to mix with Florida and the Caribbean. Other holiday companies without their own charter airline (i.e. Kuoni) will also pick up on this to help sell the seats either for beach breaks or as a route into tours around Mexico.
All of this will provide a steady revenue stream to support the route before any direct bookers get involved.
Toronto has already been tried and pulled post-9/11. I doubt we'll see that again.
Vancouver has been mentioned along with Seattle, but not until the 787-9 is delivered (when ever that is).
Cancun make good sense now that the Kingston flight is being pulled and will give BA a run for their money.
Wile it may not be the most dynamic of destinations, it should be a good revenue generator for the holiday market.
Vancouver has been mentioned along with Seattle, but not until the 787-9 is delivered (when ever that is).
Cancun make good sense now that the Kingston flight is being pulled and will give BA a run for their money.
Wile it may not be the most dynamic of destinations, it should be a good revenue generator for the holiday market.
Thanks
Darren
Darren
Scrooge wrote:Question time.... How many people here have been to Cancun ?
Been there; bought the Senor Frog T-shirt; drank Margaritas out of oversized plastic glasses; ate generic, all-inclusive hotel food. With (not a great deal of) hindsight, discovered I didn't particularly like it.
Mr House: I fear the only sneery comment in this thread was the one about 'Barbabdos'. You mention that you've never been to Cancun - have you ever been to Barbabdos? The Thomas Cook comment was merely pointing out that Cancun is much more of a 'package' destination than most places that VS normally fly to.
As others have pointed out, it's clearly a very canny commercial decision by VS, but a new route to Canada, Brazil or back to Mauritius would, perhaps, be more enticing to some...
Scrooge wrote:Question time.... How many people here have been to Cancun ? I have to ask, if only due to the responses, it has left me wondering if anyone has actually been and realizes what a fab place it is.
Tontybear wrote:
My preference for a Canadian destination is just that -pure personal preference as its somewhere I will revisit and it would be great if VS flew there
I've been three times to the Riviera Maya and its been fantastic every time - and also full to the rafters of Canadians, which probably explains why Canada isn't viable as a year round holiday route. It didn't sustain purely as a business route either. However, Cancun itself, IMHO, is to be avoided.
Regards
R3dV
Scrooge I have indeed been to Cancun three times now and we really like it, however we have not been for around 4 years now but a big thumbs up.
However like all destinations there are less desirable parts, and im afraid Cancun itself is tacky and cheap and should be avoided.
But as Redvee said there is some lovely parts such as Riviera Maya which has some amazing unique hotels.
Btw shame on you lot what an incredibly ELITIST thread
Really some people
)
Alex
However like all destinations there are less desirable parts, and im afraid Cancun itself is tacky and cheap and should be avoided.
But as Redvee said there is some lovely parts such as Riviera Maya which has some amazing unique hotels.
Btw shame on you lot what an incredibly ELITIST thread
Really some people
) Alex
Why Mark I will tell you why.
Because VS have sat back and watch BA waltz in with a 777 and steal a march on them that is why. In much the same way that BA where shocked by how successful LAS was for VS some 8 years ago.
I think it is worth remembering that firstly us Brits are pretty recession proof when it comes to our beloved summer holiday. The Germans, as TUI Group found, drop the summer holiday as soon as any fear of a recession enters the media. Us lot are the exact opposite, it seems that we will go without food before we cancel the summer holiday. As a result VH have actually weathered the storm pretty well over the last couple of years, assisted by the purchase of TCD.
Yes Rio may well be lovely however VS have had government rights for this route for ages and have avoided starting it. Why because it would be a blood bath for them, they would be priced out of the market by the IAG/One World monopoly and the TAM/LH combo. It is just too competitive since IAG/One World got the green light. The time to have launched the route would have been when TAM first started operating into LHR a couple of years back.
Similar reasons really behind the lack of a Canadian route....*A with AC leading the way have the market well and truly dominated. IIRC AC has some stupidly high number of seats across the pond ex LHR each day (somewhere at the back of my mind it may even be more than VS ex LHR).
FOr the time being therefore it will be the VH routes that will get priority. VS have guaranteed bums on seats in all classes and the aircraft are kept in the air which as we all know is the only way they can make money. Everyone may knock MCO, but I struggle to think of another VS destination that had five VS aircraft on the ground at one time on Saturday, there is something to be said for these routes.
Because VS have sat back and watch BA waltz in with a 777 and steal a march on them that is why. In much the same way that BA where shocked by how successful LAS was for VS some 8 years ago.
I think it is worth remembering that firstly us Brits are pretty recession proof when it comes to our beloved summer holiday. The Germans, as TUI Group found, drop the summer holiday as soon as any fear of a recession enters the media. Us lot are the exact opposite, it seems that we will go without food before we cancel the summer holiday. As a result VH have actually weathered the storm pretty well over the last couple of years, assisted by the purchase of TCD.
Yes Rio may well be lovely however VS have had government rights for this route for ages and have avoided starting it. Why because it would be a blood bath for them, they would be priced out of the market by the IAG/One World monopoly and the TAM/LH combo. It is just too competitive since IAG/One World got the green light. The time to have launched the route would have been when TAM first started operating into LHR a couple of years back.
Similar reasons really behind the lack of a Canadian route....*A with AC leading the way have the market well and truly dominated. IIRC AC has some stupidly high number of seats across the pond ex LHR each day (somewhere at the back of my mind it may even be more than VS ex LHR).
FOr the time being therefore it will be the VH routes that will get priority. VS have guaranteed bums on seats in all classes and the aircraft are kept in the air which as we all know is the only way they can make money. Everyone may knock MCO, but I struggle to think of another VS destination that had five VS aircraft on the ground at one time on Saturday, there is something to be said for these routes.
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