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#720007 by Tinkerbelle
03 Jul 2009, 20:18
quote:Originally posted by Lizz
have VS put this on their website yet?
regardless I'm sure people won't realise and face charges at the airport; is it wrong that I'm thinking of the excess I'll make at work?!


If you looked at the VS website, you would find the info on there.

And surely you're thinking of the excess that VS will make, not you will make.
#720009 by tontybear
03 Jul 2009, 20:18
Lizz, yes it is on the VS website

Yes I can imagine it will cause some upset for pax with different allowances in PE and UC depending on when they booked their seats as well as extra work for staff checking in PE and UC collecting the excess charges.

No effect on econ as the allowances remain the same.
#720012 by preiffer
03 Jul 2009, 20:31
quote:Originally posted by inkiboo
quote:Originally posted by preiffer
For J passengers, that stinks. Sorry, BAD move VS. [n]


No maybe it doesn't. Maybe they have worked out that most of the buisness people who travel in Upper rarely take that much luggae and most leisure take 2x 32kg so making it 3x 23kg is just as good.

As a 'business person who travels in Upper' quite a bit (thank you...) I can assure you that my bag is regularly around 28-29kg, and necessarily so. Carrying 2 bags is a REAL pain in the a*** when hopping from place to place. Even internal flights in the US don't have this restriction in place for my baggage as *A gold removes this limitation, along with domestic first.

Therefore, for me, this sucks.
#720013 by Slipperman
03 Jul 2009, 20:31
quote:Originally posted by Tinkerbelle
I can't say much especially after doing a two week US holiday taking only one 11kg bag. [:w]

[:X]

That's still a lot of thongs [:w]
#720014 by mitchja
03 Jul 2009, 20:32
It's on the VS website here

At least VS are still counting most sports equipment as part of your baggage allowance (which many other airlines charge you extra for or don't allow full stop)

Regards
#720017 by Sealink
03 Jul 2009, 20:46
Although I travel light, I don't totally understand how if you have 69KGs over three bags in UC that's fine but have just one bag at 25KG and Virgin will take another 70.00 from you.
#720018 by V1
03 Jul 2009, 20:48
VA is now cutting baggage allowance across the board and they are saying it is to make it less confusing to customers[V]. Why don't they tell the truth and say it is to save money instead of insulting our intelligence. Or am I being to harsh?

You can see it here http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/gb/passengerinformation/baggage/newpolicy.jsp


Sorry guys should have looked before i posted this [:I][:I][:I]
#720019 by mitchja
03 Jul 2009, 20:50
quote:Originally posted by Nemmie
At least IWOOT is 20 miles per right now. 2 sets of luggage scales coming up.


Just bought one here too. Looked at them for a while now. 10% off travel items and free delivery for the next 7 days with IWOOT too [:D]

Regards
#720020 by Nottingham Nick
03 Jul 2009, 20:52
I have merged the two threads about this, obviously very controversial move. Please continue to air views in this thread.

Nick
#720021 by Lizz
03 Jul 2009, 21:05
quote:Originally posted by Tinkerbelle
quote:Originally posted by Lizz
have VS put this on their website yet?
regardless I'm sure people won't realise and face charges at the airport; is it wrong that I'm thinking of the excess I'll make at work?!


If you looked at the VS website, you would find the info on there.

And surely you're thinking of the excess that VS will make, not you will make.


no I won't personally recieve any money, but for all upgrades/excess etc we sell, the person who does the most gets either vouchers, wine or 2 free standby tickets, it's not all bad [:w]
#720023 by daharris
03 Jul 2009, 21:41
quote:Originally posted by Sealink
I struggle with carrying 16KGs... It felt so heavy, I was sure it was over.
The idea of travelling with 32kgs per case is amazing - does that not include the kitchen sink?


On some of my trips to Barbados, almost. Over the years, amoungst other things, I've taken out Le Creuset pans, a food processor, ice cream maker and tiles.
#720061 by slinky09
04 Jul 2009, 10:54
quote:Originally posted by V1
VA is now cutting baggage allowance across the board and they are saying it is to make it less confusing to customers[V]. Why don't they tell the truth and say it is to save money instead of insulting our intelligence. Or am I being to harsh?


No - the folk at VS who spin their marketing (similar to the children there who redesigned the fc TAGS) need to go back to school. This is simple blatent cost cutting (less weight = less fuel, lower limits = higher charges).

quote:Originally posted by Neil
I agree with DL, moving the UC baggage limit from 32 to 23kg is not good. We prefer to take 1 case each, weighing say 25/26kg, than have to split it in to 2 cases. This means for our future flights we will have to take 4 cases, rather than 2, surely this is going to be more work for VS?

I would LOVE to know who thinks this supposedly 'easier/better' ideas up, they really do seem to be so out of touch with the pax,


Agreed Neil and DL - one bag at 30kg is much easier than two bags - then factor in internal flights if you're travelling around the US. Ooops, more fees to pay there then too.

And Paul, yes, travelling business for a week or more I also take a large bag if it is stuffed with electronics, work items, suits, shoes etc.

Poor old VS, going further down the pan.
#720066 by Decker
04 Jul 2009, 11:10
The annoying thing is the idea that this makes it EASIER. Now if they'd set ALL routes to be the same then yes, but to still have differences between routes means less double checking how? I know companies seem to feel obligated to sugar coat negative decisions but please, we know they're hurting - all airlines are hurting - so just explain that this brings them more into line with other airlines and thereby equalises the cost bases..
#720073 by Bill S
04 Jul 2009, 11:47
I think this is an excellent idea

Only a few of these passengers who only take one large case will now realise that they have to take two and cases do not weigh that much so that wont increase the load much. They wont think that they can fill the extra space.

What does it matter if some cant take two cases on the Tube to the airport we dont really want that sort of pax anyway if they cant afford a taxi or car-parking charges.

We now can say we are the same as BA all these people on The Dibb who point out advantages of Virgin such as luggage are really just a nuisance to us anyway they should leave it to the professionals.

These chavs will never notice that BA charge less for excess. They will never see that BA only have a size limit on handbaggage and anyway, if pax carry on more, that saves on handling charges. If things fall out of the overhead bins, itll just bounce on their soft heads.

We need to help the British economy cutting down on the Florida shopping spree is bound to help there are very few that realise that cheap shopping helps to offset the holiday cost.

We can make lots of money out of excess baggage charges it will help pay for our salary increase and bonus it will only take 50,000 bags a year to pay the 600,000 extra for three directors. The chavs will never notice it theyll keep coming back as long as the Cabin Crew keep smiling at them.

And most of all we can get in first we dont have to wait for British airports to bring in new weight restrictions we dont let them take the blame - we can claim it is all our idea.
I can show how much I can save the company Im a beancounter!
#720078 by HighFlyer
04 Jul 2009, 12:12
I can see quite a few people getting caught out with this change. We often take one case between us rather than two cases, its far easier to manage when travelling.

Thanks,
Sarah
#720083 by Neil
04 Jul 2009, 13:34
quote:Originally posted by slinky09
then factor in internal flights if you're travelling around the US. Ooops, more fees to pay there then too.


I'd not even thought about internal flights and the extra bags fee's, just another small reason why this whole idea sucks [n]
#720089 by The Mason
04 Jul 2009, 14:13
quote:Originally posted by tontybear
VS are currently 3*32 = 96 but will be 3*23 = 66 which is what BA offer. UA is 2*32 = 64 so not much difference there. AC is 3*32 = 96 (i.e. what VS do now)

The weight restriction of 23kg does not apply to Club or First Class, and can weigh up to 32kg free of charge so that's 96kg. It's also waived if you're a Silver or Gold and even if you're not the heavy bag charge is 10 less than Virgin's.
#720093 by tontybear
04 Jul 2009, 15:32
quote:Originally posted by The Mason
quote:Originally posted by tontybear
VS are currently 3*32 = 96 but will be 3*23 = 66 which is what BA offer. UA is 2*32 = 64 so not much difference there. AC is 3*32 = 96 (i.e. what VS do now)

The weight restriction of 23kg does not apply to Club or First Class, and can weigh up to 32kg free of charge so that's 96kg. It's also waived if you're a Silver or Gold and even if you're not the heavy bag charge is 10 less than Virgin's.


Mr Mason

I was trying to compare like with like and as I said in my post I deliberatly excluded any extra allowances that status might give you.

The 'free' BA allowance is still 23kg/bag even if you are in club / first but you get 3 bags - so 69 kg. You can go up to 32 but you have to pay an excess - see on this page here

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/ba ... blic/en_gb
#720100 by Bill S
04 Jul 2009, 16:24
Has anyone seen VS look inside Golf bags?
They seem to be still under the 32kg limit!
And that is in addition to the hold baggage.

BA only allow 23kg free so VS may soon add another cut.
#720101 by Decker
04 Jul 2009, 16:29
and Dive Equipment is still 32KG :)
#720103 by Islander
04 Jul 2009, 16:31
not great news for us at all, as if we didnt have enough luggage to move around now we have to use smaller bags!

We usually have 3 x 30kg duffle bags on wheels, 2 car seats, 4 hand luggage, 1 set golf clubs, 1 laptop. Our usual trip is 3 weeks + so we travel heavy.

I'm thrilled at the thought of having at least one other bag, if not 2, to now drag around with us.

Thanks VS[n]
#720104 by mitchja
04 Jul 2009, 16:36
Looks like there will be a lot of pax suddenly taking 'sporting holidays' from 23rd September!!

My parents always take golf clubs on VS with them without any issues. The only thing they have to do differently is once they are checked in and the golf bags are tagged, they have to drop them off at the over-size bag drop desk (at MAN anyway, not sure if LHR/LGW has these?) They do also sometimes pack a few other things in the golf bags as well [:w]

VS have recently changed their sports equipment policy as you used to only be able to check sports items in as part of your existing bag allowance, it's now as well as the normal allowance.

Regards
#720105 by honey lamb
04 Jul 2009, 16:54
Yes golf equipment has to go to an oversize bag area in both LHR and LGW. I know a certain young man who also packs extra into his golf bag. [:w]
#720127 by preiffer
04 Jul 2009, 22:08
Bear in mind that ANYTHING checked as 'sporting equipment' has a liability disclaimer signed and associated to it (you sign a special line on the printed bag tag).

This, essentially, means they can blow your luggage up with dynamite if they so wish and you have NO recourse for it through the airline. Not sure how it would affect insurance as well... [:?]
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