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#733536 by Scrooge
06 Jan 2010, 20:01
quote:Originally posted by David
Latest update on site

The following flights have been cancelled:

Departing from the UK:


Flight No: Departure Date: From: To:
VS063 6 January 2010 London Gatwick Havana
VS029 6 January 2010 London Gatwick Barbados
VS033 6 January 2010 London Gatwick Antigua
VS011 6 January 2010 London Heathrow Boston
VS027 6 January 2010 London Gatwick Orlando
VS043 6 January 2010 London Gatwick Las Vegas

Departing from other airports:


Flight No: Departure Date: From: To:
VS064 6 January 2010 Havana London Gatwick
VS030 6 January 2010 Barbados London Gatwick
VS034 6 January 2010 Antigua London Gatwick
VS012 6 January 2010 Boston London Heathrow
VS076 6 January 2010 Orlando Manchester
VS044 6 January 2010 Las Vegas London Gatwick



Which clearly shows VS doesn't care about MAN passengers, look at the people stuck in say Havana or Vegas, how are they going to get back to Manchester......

Seriously (please read every word I type here) VS doesn't care about the passengers North or South, they are one and the same to them, they care about getting the aircraft back to where it is supposed to be, as has been said, the aircraft was due to go to LGW so thats where it went.

If VS were really anti the North guess what, you would not have any flights at all.

Now back to the situation at hand, I really do feel for the people trying to travel to the UK over the next few days, it is a mess and will stay a mess for a while, with snow forecast for Orlando [:0] (according to friends that live there) it's not going to be an easy time.
#733537 by Lizz
06 Jan 2010, 20:02
I'm not basing it on today anymore. But having worked at MAN for almost 2 years now, LGW and LHR have usually come first whilst MAN is generally left trailing behind.

Anyway, I was wonderig, now the 76 is cancelled what are they going to use for the 75 tomorrow if anyone knows?
#733538 by Guest
06 Jan 2010, 20:03
Well I have found out that my flight is delayed to 23.20. Do you want to know how I found out ? Not via Email, phone, Virgin website or any of the traditional routes BUT by Mat and Peters facebook application - fantastic guys; one very grateful user here.[y]

Ian xx
#733540 by Decker
06 Jan 2010, 20:21
In fairness having checked the etymology of 'chip on the shoulder' is seems better to replace potato with plank...
#733542 by MarkedMan
06 Jan 2010, 20:31
quote:Originally posted by Decker
In fairness having checked the etymology of 'chip on the shoulder' is seems better to replace potato with plank...


[:D]
#733544 by woggles
06 Jan 2010, 21:31
quote:Originally posted by hackneyguy
Mat and Peters facebook application .[y]

Ian xx


glad you've got sorted for your flight time home but can you tell me please what application this is, thanx
#733545 by Guest
06 Jan 2010, 22:01
quote:Originally posted by woggles
quote:Originally posted by hackneyguy
Mat and Peters facebook application .[y]

Ian xx


glad you've got sorted for your flight time home but can you tell me please what application this is, thanx


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#733547 by David
06 Jan 2010, 22:19
Looks like the BA flight BA2037 form MCO to LGW has been cancelled as well - more woes for homeward bound passengers.

David

Edited to add : tomorrows BA2037 flight is cancelled as well [:0]
#733549 by Nottingham Nick
06 Jan 2010, 22:38
quote:Originally posted by Bill S
I guess much of the feeling of N/S divide is actually a reflection of the LHR/LGW,MAN divide.
I don't think many would deny that.

That is my take on Virgin's huge divide as well.

It is the reason I haven't flown from LGW in years, and never flown VS from MAN. Going to Florida / Vegas / Caribbean, I would much sooner go indirect out of LHR.

Nick
#733550 by Decker
06 Jan 2010, 22:49
Yes, VS definitely treat their LHR Pax better than their LGW/MAN pax. I'd consider LGW if flying UC for the smaller cabin though...
#733552 by tontybear
06 Jan 2010, 23:10
Can we remember that its more than VS that have been well and truely messed by the weather but it is clear they could have handled things better so hopefully they will learn about that.

There are a lot of ifs and buts but what about IF they hadn't parked 3(?) planes in the south of France then they may (JUST may) have been in a slightly better position to deal with some of the effects of the weather and the problems with closed airports etc. I'm not saying it would have been a magic wand but it might have helped.
#733553 by barrysprot36
06 Jan 2010, 23:24
quote:Originally posted by Gpik
As was mentioned before the MAN-MCO a/c does not always operate straight back to MAN, on certain days of the week the LGW and MAN aircraft swap in MCO, VS need to get the aircraft which has been operating out of Manchester for the week back to LGW for engineering etc. Unfortunately today is the day that the aircraft swap takes place. They do this down route to save ferrying an empty aircraft up and down the UK when they dont need to. Nothing to do with the North/South devide.


Funny this as we were in MCO this time last week and there was no rotation of planes, perhaps that was because the Manchester plane was late and a rotation would have made the Gatwick passengers late and that would never do[V] rather upset the Manchester ones
#733555 by clarkeysntfc
06 Jan 2010, 23:45
Did you not read the bit above about only rotating on CERTAIN DAYS i.e. it's pre-planned based on engineering/fleet utilisation?
#733557 by Decker
06 Jan 2010, 23:50
quote:Originally posted by barrysprot36
rather upset the Manchester ones


Please do not feed the trolls.
#733558 by Darren Wheeler
06 Jan 2010, 23:51
I don't think the amount of aircraft would have made any difference. If the airports are closed, end of story.
#733559 by rodert
06 Jan 2010, 23:54
I was at MCO 02/01/10, and the both Gatwick and Manchester flights were delayed coming in to MCO. But they still both rotated[:(]
#733560 by Scrooge
07 Jan 2010, 00:09
quote:Originally posted by tontybear

There are a lot of ifs and buts but what about IF they hadn't parked 3(?) planes in the south of France then they may (JUST may) have been in a slightly better position to deal with some of the effects of the weather and the problems with closed airports etc. I'm not saying it would have been a magic wand but it might have helped.


It was one, a 346 that is parked in France, a 744 is out on long term lease to another airline, but as Darren points out, it doesn't matter if you have 500 aircraft, if the airport is closed there is nothing you can do, just ask BA.
#733561 by tontybear
07 Jan 2010, 00:27
Ta Scrooge - had it in my mind it was 3. I know re closed aiports but once open a spare plane would just be a great help in trying to get back to normal etc

Makes me glad I dont have to run an airline - they mst be going through hell at the moment!
#733562 by pjh
07 Jan 2010, 00:40
quote:Originally posted by tontybear
Ta Scrooge - had it in my mind it was 3. I know re closed aiports but once open a spare plane would just be a great help in trying to get back to normal etc

Makes me glad I dont have to run an airline - they mst be going through hell at the moment!


Presumably you also need to source flight deck, cabin crew, meals plus ATC clearances, landing slots etc?

Paul
#733565 by dunkmat
07 Jan 2010, 05:17
Well latest update, virgin rang me at my us home and told me that we had to travel to airport even though it was 3 hours as our flight was going to be leaving Orlando in the morning(today in UK). We packed up and made the trip. The lady at check in said the phone call was completely untrue and there was no flight
arranged. We are now stuck at Orlando and being advised it could be Friday. Oh both gatwick flights departed at 10.15 and 10.30. Funny old thing! We have to see virgin tomorrow to find out more at midday.
#733567 by slinky09
07 Jan 2010, 08:52
quote:Originally posted by tontybear
Can we remember that its more than VS that have been well and truely messed by the weather but it is clear they could have handled things better so hopefully they will learn about that.


Hmmm [:?] - almost certainly what was said the last time VS got in a mess.

quote:Originally posted by scrooge
It was one, a 346 that is parked in France, a 744 is out on long term lease to another airline


Two 346s parked in Lourdes. But as others said, if the runway ain't open, no use in having planes anywhere.

We have a couple of days with no major snow forecast around London at least, I hope all get home / go on holiday as soon as they can.
#733570 by Scrooge
07 Jan 2010, 09:56
quote:Originally posted by slinky09


quote:Originally posted by scrooge
It was one, a 346 that is parked in France, a 744 is out on long term lease to another airline


Two 346s parked in Lourdes. But as others said, if the runway ain't open, no use in having planes anywhere.




Your right, for whatever reason I keep forgetting about VATL [B)]
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