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#816098 by preiffer
08 Jul 2012, 12:10
Penny_L wrote:
Martin5192 wrote:Have you thought about taking it to the newspapers?


everyone is assuming the young lady in question would be happy with all this attention, which may or may not be the case.

It also brings back painful memories in something similar when a guy that used to be on my daily morning commute to work decided to stalk me when I told him I wasnt interested.

I ended up having to leave where I worked and move where I lived.


While what happened sounds really bad, and I'm sorry to hear you had to move - let's equally not assume that everyone out there is like that.

Yes, there will be some bad apples in the world, but we can't spend our lives assuming everyone we encounter is one.
#816185 by Monkey789
09 Jul 2012, 15:08
747 dude wrote:I have just received a reply from Virgin saying they can't forward the message on due to Data Protection and Security reasons.


If its YOUR information that you've given them permission (in writing) to pass on, where's the data protection issue?

I don't see security is an issue here. If she wants to contact you after the info has been passed on, that's her choice.

I'd ask again. If necessary escalate it to a supervisor or manager.

Good luck. Don't give up!
#816197 by Zermatt
09 Jul 2012, 17:53
Hi 747 dude,

This is Peter from http://www.blewmychance.com ... We really want to help you and did see your post on the site. We advertise a lot, and will keep trying as hard as we possibly can to find this lady for you! We need help though, if you or people on this forum can like us on http://www.facebook.com/blewmychance or http://www.twitter.com/blewmychance we stand a better chance. I have already asked if I can advertise on this forum and am just waiting for feedback.

Cheers and lets see how it goes ... we will find her for you!

Cheers,
Peter
#816208 by 747 dude
09 Jul 2012, 18:55
scnickr wrote:
747 dude wrote:I have just received a reply from Virgin saying they can't forward the message on due to Data Protection and Security reasons.


If its YOUR information that you've given them permission (in writing) to pass on, where's the data protection issue?

I don't see security is an issue here. If she wants to contact you after the info has been passed on, that's her choice.

I'd ask again. If necessary escalate it to a supervisor or manager.

I totally agree. How could me asking THEM to pass on a message be a Data Protection or Safety issue.

I will email back.

Good luck. Don't give up!
#816209 by Sealink
09 Jul 2012, 18:55
I am sure airlines have as strict or stricter regulations about these kind of things than the hospitality industry - we would hesitate to pass anything on as we can't even confirm that a guest was staying with us to an 'outside' party, which, passing a message on kind of confirms. But I hope for a happy ending!
#816213 by Darren Wheeler
09 Jul 2012, 19:03
scnickr wrote:
747 dude wrote:I have just received a reply from Virgin saying they can't forward the message on due to Data Protection and Security reasons.


If its YOUR information that you've given them permission (in writing) to pass on, where's the data protection issue?

I don't see security is an issue here. If she wants to contact you after the info has been passed on, that's her choice.

I'd ask again. If necessary escalate it to a supervisor or manager.

Good luck. Don't give up!


It goes against Principle 2 of The Data Protection Act as VS did not collect the information for the purposes of acting as a dating agency.
#816223 by ratechaser
09 Jul 2012, 19:48
Darren Wheeler wrote:
scnickr wrote:
747 dude wrote:I have just received a reply from Virgin saying they can't forward the message on due to Data Protection and Security reasons.


If its YOUR information that you've given them permission (in writing) to pass on, where's the data protection issue?

I don't see security is an issue here. If she wants to contact you after the info has been passed on, that's her choice.

I'd ask again. If necessary escalate it to a supervisor or manager.

Good luck. Don't give up!


It goes against Principle 2 of The Data Protection Act as VS did not collect the information for the purposes of acting as a dating agency.


I rather suspect that the lawyers and politicians that drafted the DPA had very little romance in their collective souls...

Wasn't there recently a media campaign to track down a woman in similar circumstances - admittedly she turned out to have got herself a boyfriend and was therefore not interested, but if you look past the specifics of that story's ending, it shows that where there's a will, there's a way.

Good luck from me. As long as you don't become a stalking obsessive as a result, what's the worst that can happen...
#816251 by tontybear
09 Jul 2012, 23:08
ratechaser wrote:Good luck from me. As long as you don't become a stalking obsessive as a result, what's the worst that can happen...


And how are VS supposed to know that the OP isn't a stalker

The DPA is there for a reason and as a former GP Practice Manager I have had to deal with some of its idiosyncracies but once I was glad I stuck to it - not only to protect me and my practice but also the young lady someone wanted to know about - as it turned out that person had a restraining order against them. The young lady in question was very appreciative that we hade not revealed anything I can tell you.
#816254 by at240
09 Jul 2012, 23:29
tontybear wrote:not only to protect me and my practice but also the young lady someone wanted to know about - as it turned out that person had a restraining order against them. The young lady in question was very appreciative that we hade not revealed anything I can tell you.

You do not need the DPA to justify refusing to reveal data to someone! Argh!

In any case, passing on a message is not the same as revealing anything. The OP hasn't asked for anything to be revealed, so far as I'm aware.

It is not unreasonable to suppose that an airline could pass a message from one passenger to another, in unusual circumstances -- there are any number of legitimate, if unlikely, reasons why they might reasonably do this, and the DPA would not prohibit them.
#816256 by tontybear
09 Jul 2012, 23:48
at240 wrote:
It is not unreasonable to suppose that an airline could pass a message from one passenger to another, in unusual circumstances -- there are any number of legitimate, if unlikely, reasons why they might reasonably do this, and the DPA would not prohibit them.


Actually it is unreasonable to expect an airline (or anyone) to pass on personal details or a message from one person to another. Just because the OP is happy for their details to be passed on does not mean the recipient wants them.

In anycase I would rather VS staff did what they were paid for which is answering VS related questions and not acting as a contact agency.

And the OPs circumstances are hardly 'unusual'.

And yes the DPA would prevent this unless there was a specific exemption to the Act and even then it would only allow them to pass on passenger detailed to e.g. environmental health in the case of a food poisoning incident or to the police in relation to specific law enforcement activities.

The DPA not only protects individuals but also organisations and organisations can only hold data for specific purposes - and in the case of VS I don't think it includes acting as a dating agency!
#816258 by tontybear
10 Jul 2012, 00:06
Paul the straight bananas story was a Daily Mail anti-EU inspired myth.

Whilst people may want to share data with each other that does not mean organisations should be able to share it willy nilly - no matter how 'innocent' or romantic the intention.
#816302 by SNOMO
10 Jul 2012, 10:14
Don't want to appear to be a fly in the ointment, but just a thought, maybe the lady in question wasn't interested in the first place anyway - I'm pretty sure most modern women would make it obvious they would like to further the relationship in a way so as to either get the guy's info to use later or pass their own on to be used or not ?
#816314 by LovingGold
10 Jul 2012, 12:40
Trying to take this back the OP and off the DPA.......
Did you not get any details from her?? No name, no what she does for a living, what part of the country are you from??

In my experience, not that I am any kind of Casanova, as the previous poster said most women will let you know in someone or even drive the conversation to a point where you have to talk of more personal detail if interested.

I would start to have a hard think back over the hours you sat next to each other and go over the information. I would think if the attraction is the same and you think it's a "meant to be" romance then the young lady in question will be looking for you as well.

Did you start posting in other forums??
#816691 by Miss G
13 Jul 2012, 20:27
747 dude wrote:Had some good news today. I'm not going to tell you exactly what as some of you guys on here seem to have something against what I'm doing.


Oh, you can't keep us hanging like that?! I'm longing to find out if there's going to be a happy ending to this.
#816694 by DragonLady
13 Jul 2012, 20:42
747 dude wrote:Had some good news today. I'm not going to tell you exactly what as some of you guys on here seem to have something against what I'm doing.


Well I don't :) .
I truly wish you well in your quest. If you don't feel comfortable sharing your news I'd love to hear how this all ends via PM.
Best of luck :) .
DL
#816695 by CHill710
13 Jul 2012, 20:57
DragonLady wrote:
Well I don't :) .
I truly wish you well in your quest. If you don't feel comfortable sharing your news I'd love to hear how this all ends via PM.
Best of luck :) .
DL


I too have been following this and wish you well.

I can't find your post on the DIBB and i too would like to know how this ends.

best of luck
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