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#751169 by Dave2009
30 Jul 2010, 14:18
Hi All,

It must have been some while ago that the aircraft G-VAST 'Ladybird' was going to be retired from the Virgin fleet however I flew back from ANU on wednesday onboard 'Ladybird' and remembered that she was due to be retired, does anyone know if this is still going to take place?

Any help would be appreciated,

Thanks
#751170 by Tinkerbelle
30 Jul 2010, 14:26
Not sure if there are still plans to retire G-VAST anymore.

Around the same time that the retirement thing was talked about, G-VROM went off to fly for Aerosur and plans to lease an IIRC Etihad Airbus for LGW were shelved which is probably why Ladybird is still flying.
#751447 by willd
03 Aug 2010, 19:22
IIRC, and this is without looking at the threads at the time, this was the situation.

VS wished to get rid of one aircraft from the LGW/MAN fleet. Originally this was rumoured to be G-VAST and indeed sources said that a potential suitor was found and lawyers were instructed (I would imagine VS used their usual lawyers who are Harbottle and Lewis). Rumours suggesting that the other carrier balked when undertaking due diligence at the number of cycles the aircraft had undertaken.

Shortly afterwards G-VROM was sent off to Aerosur on a rather long lease. Whether Aerosur were originally hoping to get G-VAST is anyones guess.

Of course this is all heavily rumoured based and I certainly can't back any of this up, and IIRC VS got a bit touchy over sites such as this and A.net knowing about the Aerosur deal before it was announced.


The EY 343 that was to be leased was the previous summer, IIRC Summer 2008 (although it could have been announced in Summer 08 for Summer 09 season). She was going to be used mainly from MAN and LGW into MCO to provide extra capacity, again IIRC VH announced VS would increase its flights into MCO to four a day from LGW. This was canceled at the last minute due to the credit crunch and the knock on effect this had at VS.


As it stands today none of the 744 will be retired in the near future. The leases on these birds have been extended and G-VROM will be returning in 2012. The only aircraft that are being "retired" are the two 346's currently parked up in France. These are in long term storage but were two of the 346 prototypes and were always earmarked for an earlier return to Airbus so that they could be used for spares! Reading between the lines, some sort of deal was done with Airbus at the time of sale regarding those two birds, whether that be that they will be replaced by two brand new 346s (clearly VS have decieded they dont want them to be) or that since the sale some sort of deal was struck with the order of the 330's.
#751511 by wanderingmariner
04 Aug 2010, 13:06
McMaddog wrote:
wanderingmariner wrote:I really hope that they dont keep retiring the 744's, those Airbuses are soulless things.

Give me mood lighting in the loos any day!



McMaddog, can totally understand what your saying but being in the bubble is heaven! The upgrades next year should take care of the lighting :D
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