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#850975 by DanielG
09 Jul 2013, 10:01
Hi, first time posting here! Hoping someone can help answer the following load check question please - I've done a load check for VS015 this Saturday, and it gives the following results:

J2 C2 D2 I2 Z1 W9 S9 K4 Y3 B3 R0 L0 U0 M0 E0 Q0 X0 N0 O0

However, when I try and find the cheapest UC fares on the VS website, it's only giving me J class seats, which are obviously the most expensive ones! Does anyone know why this is? Is there a way of booking the lower fare seats (e.g. I or Z class)?

Thanks!
#850978 by Neil
09 Jul 2013, 10:29
Hi and welcome.

The cheaper fare codes, like a Z, all have advance booking restrictions, which I believe is 96 hours, so this is likely to be the reason you are no longer get those options.

Also, if using a site like flightstats for your load check, it can take a little while for it to sync with the VS system, so someone may have booked those cheaper fares already.

Neil
#850993 by tontybear
09 Jul 2013, 12:04
Were you looking for a one way flight?

Because if you were the VS system will automatically price that as a full J fare.

If you want to try different fare buckets then try this link - it will let you select a different fare bucket e.g. J/D/I for UC
#851243 by blevins
12 Jul 2013, 07:01
DanielG wrote:Hi, first time posting here! Hoping someone can help answer the following load check question please - I've done a load check for VS015 this Saturday, and it gives the following results:

J2 C2 D2 I2 Z1 W9 S9 K4 Y3 B3 R0 L0 U0 M0 E0 Q0 X0 N0 O0

However, when I try and find the cheapest UC fares on the VS website, it's only giving me J class seats, which are obviously the most expensive ones! Does anyone know why this is? Is there a way of booking the lower fare seats (e.g. I or Z class)?

Thanks!

Please excuse my ignorance, but I am intrigued as to how you do a load check? I would love to have a go myself! Thanks!
#851245 by honey lamb
12 Jul 2013, 07:05
blevins wrote:Please excuse my ignorance, but I am intrigued as to how you do a load check? I would love to have a go myself! Thanks!

flightstats.com. Go to flight availability and check the Advanced option
#851249 by blevins
12 Jul 2013, 08:13
honey lamb wrote:
blevins wrote:Please excuse my ignorance, but I am intrigued as to how you do a load check? I would love to have a go myself! Thanks!

flightstats.com. Go to flight availability and check the Advanced option


Super, many thanks for your help and swift response! Cheers!
#851255 by gfonk
12 Jul 2013, 09:27
honey lamb wrote:flightstats.com. Go to flight availability and check the Advanced option


Hi honeylamb
Im probably just being really dopey but which option do you then select? check availability or check fares? and should you enter anything in fares box?
when I tried it for my flight later in the year it didnt bring anything up :(
#851256 by Neil
12 Jul 2013, 09:28
It's the check availability box, you don't need to enter anything in to the fare box, just put your airport codes in and dates.
#851257 by gfonk
12 Jul 2013, 09:41
Neil wrote:It's the check availability box, you don't need to enter anything in to the fare box, just put your airport codes in and dates.


Thanks Neil
That worked for me. ^)
I will be using this next time i book a flight.
#851272 by gumshoe
12 Jul 2013, 12:44
Remember it'll only really help you if there are 8 seats or fewer left to buy in a particular fare bucket, in which case it'll tell you exactly how many there are.

If it says 9 though, that could mean there are 9 or 200 seats left - 9's the highest it shows.

And it's not cumulative within each class. For instance if you see J8 C8 D4 I4 Z1 they're all UC fare codes but it doesn't mean there are 25 seats left in UC. It means there are 8, of which only 1 is still available in the cheapest Z bucket but all 8 are available in the priciest J bucket.

Hope that makes sense ...
#851276 by gfonk
12 Jul 2013, 13:03
gumshoe wrote:Remember it'll only really help you if there are 8 seats or fewer left to buy in a particular fare bucket, in which case it'll tell you exactly how many there are.

If it says 9 though, that could mean there are 9 or 200 seats left - 9's the highest it shows.

And it's not cumulative within each class. For instance if you see J8 C8 D4 I4 Z1 they're all UC fare codes but it doesn't mean there are 25 seats left in UC. It means there are 8, of which only 1 is still available in the cheapest Z bucket but all 8 are available in the priciest J bucket.

Hope that makes sense ...


That makes sense. I didn't know that about the numbers.
And just because there are no Gs listed does not necessarily mean there are any remaining? Just that at that particular point in time none are?
#851317 by blevins
12 Jul 2013, 17:36
The interesting thing is I did a "what if" based on a flight I am doing shortly - LGW to MBJ UC, 26 Jul out , 7 Aug in and fltstats said there were 9 seats avail both ways, yet the VS website said none! When I checked the seat plan in "manage my flt", sure enough, there seems to be spare (well certainly unallocated) seats!
#851324 by blevins
12 Jul 2013, 17:53
I'm obviously losing it in old age! When I performed this little exercise this morning, I am sure fltstats offered 9 seats. Oh well. :-)
#851325 by gumshoe
12 Jul 2013, 17:55
blevins wrote:The interesting thing is I did a "what if" based on a flight I am doing shortly - LGW to MBJ UC, 26 Jul out , 7 Aug in and fltstats said there were 9 seats avail both ways, yet the VS website said none! When I checked the seat plan in "manage my flt", sure enough, there seems to be spare (well certainly unallocated) seats!


Are you sure you checked the right flight/date/cabin?

As Penny says both those flights are showing full in UC - screenshot of the outbound attached.

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#851356 by kobi87
12 Jul 2013, 21:03
blevins wrote:The interesting thing is I did a "what if" based on a flight I am doing shortly - LGW to MBJ UC, 26 Jul out , 7 Aug in and fltstats said there were 9 seats avail both ways, yet the VS website said none! When I checked the seat plan in "manage my flt", sure enough, there seems to be spare (well certainly unallocated) seats!


Maybe I'm missing something but could this be due to seats still being available through websites such as opodo, Expedia etc and travel agents?
#851368 by gfonk
12 Jul 2013, 22:29
Neil wrote:It doesn't show reward seats, only revenue ones.

Oh wait that means it doesn't show Gs?
Is there a way to know how to book them?
#851369 by honey lamb
12 Jul 2013, 22:36
gfonk wrote:
Neil wrote:It doesn't show reward seats, only revenue ones.

Oh wait that means it doesn't show Gs?
Is there a way to know how to book them?

The best way is to do a dummy booking on the VS website and book them there and then if you are doing a full reward flight. If you are seeking to upgrade you need to call VS
#851574 by Goatflyer
16 Jul 2013, 00:26
Flightstats seems excellent. Quick question though..

I looked at a VS flight and it claims that there are 'N3' which I understand to mean there are 3 tickets left in N booking class.

But by playing around with the VS website I've managed to work out there are infact 5 - if you select 5 adults for the flight it offers 5 tickets in N class. If you select 6, it offers 6 tickets in the next class up.

Is this because 2 people have cancelled or because Flighstats isnt that accurate?
#854023 by blevins
09 Aug 2013, 09:11
gumshoe wrote:
blevins wrote:The interesting thing is I did a "what if" based on a flight I am doing shortly - LGW to MBJ UC, 26 Jul out , 7 Aug in and fltstats said there were 9 seats avail both ways, yet the VS website said none! When I checked the seat plan in "manage my flt", sure enough, there seems to be spare (well certainly unallocated) seats!


Are you sure you checked the right flight/date/cabin?

As Penny says both those flights are showing full in UC - screenshot of the outbound attached.

photo-2.PNG



STOP PRESS Have just returned from my trip - there were 5 empty seats un UC outbound and 1 inbound
#854030 by gfonk
09 Aug 2013, 10:45
blevins wrote:
STOP PRESS Have just returned from my trip - there were 5 empty seats un UC outbound and 1 inbound


is it possible that the remaining seats were perhaps on hold at the time? however on the actual day of the flight there were no takers? :?
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