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#960701 by 747G-VXLG
28 Apr 2021, 17:42
DIAZLUXO wrote:https://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/51143673372/in/photostream/
MSN 492 spotted today with testing reg F-WZGM.


Any news on any of the others?
#960704 by 747G-VXLG
28 Apr 2021, 21:53
DIAZLUXO wrote:Not at the moment I don't think.


I’ve just seen somewhere that G-VLIB has got her parts built.
#960887 by 747G-VXLG
19 May 2021, 11:35
When Virgin initially released the concept art for the A350s, there was a photo released with one called ‘cool runner’ with the Daley flying icon on. Does anyone know whether this has this been kept back for the option aircraft from ALC?
#960891 by 747G-VXLG
19 May 2021, 16:17
DIAZLUXO wrote:I believe ‘Cool Runner’ was the original name for G-VJAM ‘Queen of Hearts’


That makes no sense to me as there does not seem to be any link between the name and registration.
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#960895 by mitchja
19 May 2021, 17:00
I'm guessing here but Cool Runnings was a Disney film from back in the early 90's about a Jamaican bobsled team hence the original link.

The JAM reg and Queen of Hearts link comes from the Alice's Adventures in Wonderland book.

VS must of thought better of their original name / reg link so updated it. Could have been a licensing issue with it being Disney related.
#960896 by 747G-VXLG
19 May 2021, 17:43
mitchja wrote:I'm guessing here but Cool Runnings was a Disney film from back in the early 90's about a Jamaican bobsled team hence the original link.

The JAM reg and Queen of Hearts link comes from the Alice's Adventures in Wonderland book.

VS must of thought better of their original name / reg link so updated it. Could have been a licensing issue with it being Disney related.


With JAM being Disney related whatever the name was meant to be, Virgin probably should have saved it for the leisure fleet.
#960898 by ColOrd
19 May 2021, 22:11
Off topic and I have to admit, that I haven't read the original, but basically, the original story to Alice in Wonderland is from the 1860'S so has long since passed in to public copyright, which I think is normally about 100 years.
#960902 by 747G-VXLG
19 May 2021, 22:26
ColOrd wrote:Off topic and I have to admit, that I haven't read the original, but basically, the original story to Alice in Wonderland is from the 1860'S so has long since passed in to public copyright, which I think is normally about 100 years.


If there are copyright issues with Disney, will G-VNVR have to be changed too?
#960912 by ColOrd
20 May 2021, 23:12
Probably not for the same reason the original character is over 100 years old.
#960949 by Miked1e
24 May 2021, 07:49
Has there been any suggestions on what the A350 leisure config would be like...

Also whether the A350s will be expected to be on MAN-MCO route by next May. I understand it is still the plan for the A332 to be retired by early next year??
#960953 by 747G-VXLG
24 May 2021, 17:10
Miked1e wrote:Has there been any suggestions on what the A350 leisure config would be like...

Also whether the A350s will be expected to be on MAN-MCO route by next May. I understand it is still the plan for the A332 to be retired by early next year??


The 410 capacity figure has been mentioned but it could be higher. Also, between 16-24 in upper and 48-64 in premium. Economy will probably be around 300-340.

The A332s should be gone by next March.
#960955 by flyingfox
24 May 2021, 17:31
G-VDOT and G-VRNB were delivered initially in the leisure config seating 387 but no specific seating plan was revealed as they were both flown to LHR after delivery and configured in the London based A350 layout.
#960956 by 747G-VXLG
24 May 2021, 17:46
flyingfox wrote:G-VDOT and G-VRNB were delivered initially in the leisure config seating 387 but no specific seating plan was revealed as they were both flown to LHR after delivery and configured in the London based A350 layout.


I thought DOT, RNB and TEA were delivered with no UC seats and just premium and economy.
#960958 by 747G-VXLG
24 May 2021, 20:28
flyingfox wrote:Not sure about TEA but a few bloggers covered the story last year, Inflight With James who posts on v flyer was one of them;

https://www.inflightwithjames.com/post/ ... ntic-a350/


387 seems a small capacity compared to the 747s. I would have thought that they could have fitted more seats in.
#960960 by 747G-VXLG
24 May 2021, 21:16
I’ve just done a calculation to work out the possible leisure configuration to match the 387 stated on the article. Here is the most likely configuration:

Upper class - 16 seats. 4 rows of 4 with the loft behind.

Premium - 56 seats. 7 rows of 8 in 2-4-2 configuration.

Economy - 315 seats. 35 rows of 9 in a 3-3-3 configuration.

Upper class and Premium should fit between doors 1 and 2.

If true, the capacity of the leisure A350s would be 85% of the 747s.
#960961 by David
25 May 2021, 08:57
I wouldn't think 16 seats in Upper is quite enough. Most of my flights in Upper to MCO have been full whereas the economy section has been pretty empty.

David
#960962 by 747G-VXLG
25 May 2021, 11:03
David wrote:I wouldn't think 16 seats in Upper is quite enough. Most of my flights in Upper to MCO have been full whereas the economy section has been pretty empty.

David


I can see where you are coming from. But, if they add more Upper class, they would have to either reduce economy or premium. These will both be much smaller than what they used to be in the 747s which is why I don’t think they would put in any more upper. Of course if they have space, they may be able to fit another row in.
#960963 by ColOrd
25 May 2021, 13:14
I have to be honest, I would have thought they would have gone for at least 20 in J. The problem I guess for those of us wanting Upper, is that in reality on these O&D leisure routes, its actually W that really makes the money, the floor space taken up is only marginally greater than that for Y whilst the premium charged for it is extremely lucrative
#960966 by 747G-VXLG
25 May 2021, 18:21
ColOrd wrote:I have to be honest, I would have thought they would have gone for at least 20 in J. The problem I guess for those of us wanting Upper, is that in reality on these O&D leisure routes, its actually W that really makes the money, the floor space taken up is only marginally greater than that for Y whilst the premium charged for it is extremely lucrative


They could opt for more but it would take away premium and economy seats. I think they will opt for a larger passenger load to make more money coming out of the pandemic. But I could be wrong.
#960967 by LREDI
25 May 2021, 19:18
I expect the leisure fleet will come with c.20 J seats and additional premium behind them.

I also don't think there will be a Loft area on the leisure 350s (my own thoughts not confirmed anywhere)
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