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#946641 by mitchja
20 Oct 2018, 15:08
There is some speculation that this could be the new Virgin Red / new Virgin loyalty program.

Also, just putting 2 and 2 together here, but aren't there approx 9 Virgin brands that the Virgin Red app generally covers where you can 'spend or earn' loyalty:

1. Atlantic
2. Holidays
3. Trains
4. Media
5. Games
6. Active
7. Wine
8. Money
9. Balloon Flights

??
#946645 by Hamster
21 Oct 2018, 00:30
Virgin Atlantic released an album in 2010 called Cloud 9.

Ethiopian Airlines call their business class cabin Cloud 9.

The speculation mitchja mentions sounds most sensible.
#946649 by dickydotcom
21 Oct 2018, 08:43
Thanks for that post James.
It prompted me to check my miles and I noticed I haven't had any from Virgin Wines.
I then checked the Virgin Wine site and my old Virgin Flying Club number was still linked.
I thought they all got changed automatically but obviously not.
Does anyone know the date they changed the flying club numbers?
I only spend £20 a month on Wine Bank but over a couple of years it's a few missing miles. It would be nice if I could get them back.

Dick D
Edit: I found the date Nov 2016.
#946650 by mitchja
21 Oct 2018, 08:48
Flying Club numbers changed around the beginning of November 2016.
#946651 by dickydotcom
21 Oct 2018, 09:03
mitchja wrote:Flying Club numbers changed around the beginning of November 2016.

Thanks for that James.
Funny thing is that I don't seem to have ever got any miles from winebank and I've been with them since 2015.
I've sent emails so maybe I'll get something.
Must link my Virgin Mobile as well. That's a massive £17 a month now.

Dick D
#946653 by mitchja
21 Oct 2018, 09:55
There is currently no link between Virgin Mobile / Virgin Media and Flying Club.

That *should* change though once Virgin launch this new loyalty program.
#946654 by hazban
21 Oct 2018, 11:33
It would be just my luck for Virgin Mobile to be included. After years with them I have just jumped ship and gone to Three!
They have much better overseas roaming, in Australia at present and can call home and use data as if in the UK, however if I phone for a pizza from across the street it is classed as an international call! So strange?
#946657 by locutus
21 Oct 2018, 18:53
hazban wrote:It would be just my luck for Virgin Mobile to be included. After years with them I have just jumped ship and gone to Three!
They have much better overseas roaming, in Australia at present and can call home and use data as if in the UK, however if I phone for a pizza from across the street it is classed as an international call! So strange?


You should check out Vodafone with Global Roaming Plus next time you renew
#946660 by mitchja
22 Oct 2018, 08:40
locutus wrote:
hazban wrote:It would be just my luck for Virgin Mobile to be included. After years with them I have just jumped ship and gone to Three!
They have much better overseas roaming, in Australia at present and can call home and use data as if in the UK, however if I phone for a pizza from across the street it is classed as an international call! So strange?


You should check out Vodafone with Global Roaming Plus next time you renew


EE also offers included roaming in the US, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and Mexico as well on all their Max plans.

Not sure about Voda, but certainly with EE, all calls and texts are included in your allowances when roaming i.e. both international and local landlines + mobiles as well.
#946661 by VS075
22 Oct 2018, 08:53
mitchja wrote:
locutus wrote:
hazban wrote:It would be just my luck for Virgin Mobile to be included. After years with them I have just jumped ship and gone to Three!
They have much better overseas roaming, in Australia at present and can call home and use data as if in the UK, however if I phone for a pizza from across the street it is classed as an international call! So strange?


You should check out Vodafone with Global Roaming Plus next time you renew


EE also offers included roaming in the US, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and Mexico as well on all their Max plans.

Not sure about Voda, but certainly with EE, all calls and texts are included in your allowances when roaming i.e. both international and local landlines + mobiles as well.


I think it depends on your plan. I'm with EE and I'll need to check the small print, but I'm sure on mine international roaming being included in my call/text/data allowance only extends to the EU (this pre-dates the relevant legislation that abolised EU roaming charges by a matter of months), but even that depends on what they define as "EU" as Isle of Man is also included as "EU".

As for the changes, if this is the new loyalty scheme across various Virgin brands I hope this doesn't devalue the miles I've already accrued and result in more miles needing to be spent for redemption (either in whole or as part-payment with cash).
#946664 by dickydotcom
22 Oct 2018, 11:04
Not only don't I get any points for my mobile, but just got a reply from Virgin Winebank;

"I apologise for the confusion, as you are a member of the WineBank you are not eligible to receive flying club points. This is because you sadly can no benefit from each club as the WineBank gives you free delivery and 20% interest."

He ho. At least I'm on cloud seven.

Dick D
#946666 by tontybear
22 Oct 2018, 17:09
I'm sure there was a thread a couple of months ago about something like this and changes to the Virgin loyalty app and there was some speculation about how this would affect flying club and if would mean more people earning miles and affecting the ability to get reward seats etc
#946667 by CommanderB
22 Oct 2018, 17:30
tontybear wrote:I'm sure there was a thread a couple of months ago about something like this and changes to the Virgin loyalty app and there was some speculation about how this would affect flying club and if would mean more people earning miles and affecting the ability to get reward seats etc


You're probably thinking of this one.
#946668 by tontybear
22 Oct 2018, 18:23
Ah yes that's the one. Thanks for finding it.

I have since cashed in most of my miles!
#946701 by V1
24 Oct 2018, 12:34
Just got the Cloud 9 email. A bit disappointed tbh seems a little lame.
#946707 by Hamster
24 Oct 2018, 16:04
Well that's boring!

Not sure why they teased this before launch?
#946708 by tontybear
24 Oct 2018, 17:00
that's an interesting use of coconut water!

I'm sure I saw publicity of the Aviation Gin link up months ago on Head for Points.
#946710 by stuart_f
24 Oct 2018, 23:25
tontybear wrote:that's an interesting use of coconut water!


Just this morning Mrs _F had her medical hat on, peer reviewing a paper on coconut water as a substitute for intravenous fluid. Apparently the idea isn't new but the approach was.

As a mere 'bit twiddler' (computer scientist) it stands to reason that any cocktail that contains coconut water must therefore replenish fluid rather then deplete it. It should therefore be safe enough to consume an infinite amount of said cocktail! I'll update you on my findings next time we fly...

As for Cloud 9. All the hype for that??
#946716 by broono83
25 Oct 2018, 11:58
tontybear wrote:that's an interesting use of coconut water!

I'm sure I saw publicity of the Aviation Gin link up months ago on Head for Points.


Yeh me too. Also the cocktail recipes a (and I think a video) have been up for over a year, certainly for the redhead anyway.
#946720 by tontybear
25 Oct 2018, 13:10
my comment about coconut water wasn't about the cocktails but from the 'insider tips' section at the bottom!
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