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#961102 by 747G-VXLG
14 Jun 2021, 09:54
muppster wrote:Our August VS flights to Barbados have just been switched from A333 to B789


How far into August are your flights?
#961103 by mitchja
14 Jun 2021, 12:02
My LHR>BOS flight at the end of July are still showing as being an A333, as are all my MAN flights for the rest of this year (JFK in Sept, ATL in Nov & Dec).
#961104 by 747G-VXLG
14 Jun 2021, 17:32
mitchja wrote:My LHR>BOS flight at the end of July are still showing as being an A333, as are all my MAN flights for the rest of this year (JFK in Sept, ATL in Nov & Dec).


If America isn’t on the green list by then I can see your flights either changing to 789s or being cancelled.
I don’t think anymore A330-300s or -200s will return to service until the US is on the green list. However, they will all be flying to Dresden at some point in the next few months to receive new landing gears.
#961105 by muppster
14 Jun 2021, 19:07
747G-VXLG wrote:
muppster wrote:Our August VS flights to Barbados have just been switched from A333 to B789


How far into August are your flights?


14th outbound, 25th return
#961107 by DIAZLUXO
14 Jun 2021, 22:06
I suspect virgin would want to use every last bit of life they have left in them to shuttle the leisure travellers to their destinations (mainly mco)
#961109 by 747G-VXLG
15 Jun 2021, 09:29
Martin5192 wrote:Still showing A330-200 on our LHR-MCO flight in Nov 2021...Thought the 200s we’re going?

DIAZLUXO wrote:I suspect virgin would want to use every last bit of life they have left in them to shuttle the leisure travellers to their destinations (mainly mco)


I would personally be very surprised if they return to service at all. They were originally meant to be kept until around March 2022 but given the current travel limitations, I would be surprised if they weren’t retired early.
#961110 by Miked1e
15 Jun 2021, 09:55
747G-VXLG wrote:
Martin5192 wrote:Still showing A330-200 on our LHR-MCO flight in Nov 2021...Thought the 200s we’re going?

DIAZLUXO wrote:I suspect virgin would want to use every last bit of life they have left in them to shuttle the leisure travellers to their destinations (mainly mco)


I would personally be very surprised if they return to service at all. They were originally meant to be kept until around March 2022 but given the current travel limitations, I would be surprised if they weren’t retired early.


If the A330-200's were retired early what would be in their place for the MAN-MCO routes until the A350s are delivered?
#961111 by 747G-VXLG
15 Jun 2021, 10:01
Miked1e wrote:
747G-VXLG wrote:
Martin5192 wrote:Still showing A330-200 on our LHR-MCO flight in Nov 2021...Thought the 200s we’re going?

DIAZLUXO wrote:I suspect virgin would want to use every last bit of life they have left in them to shuttle the leisure travellers to their destinations (mainly mco)


I would personally be very surprised if they return to service at all. They were originally meant to be kept until around March 2022 but given the current travel limitations, I would be surprised if they weren’t retired early.


If the A330-200's were retired early what would be in their place for the MAN-MCO routes until the A350s are delivered?


It would depend on a few factors.
If flights to America are running and the loads are low then most likely A330-300s.
If flights have only just started and loads are quite low and the A333s are in the process being brought back to service then most probably the 789s.
If flights are running and the loads are high they would most probably utilise the business A350s.

As I said, it would depend on the circumstances at the time of your flight. I think you’d have more of an idea nearer the time. With your flight being in November, I would say you have got a high chance of going, but I think it will be a lot more clear with aircraft you will get in September or October.
#961112 by Miked1e
15 Jun 2021, 10:04
Thank you.... I am not the OP and in fact not flying on this route til May next year. I am able to book seats soon but expecting this to change from the A330-200 by then.
#961113 by 747G-VXLG
15 Jun 2021, 10:36
Miked1e wrote:Thank you.... I am not the OP and in fact not flying on this route til May next year. I am able to book seats soon but expecting this to change from the A330-200 by then.


If you are flying in May you will most likely get one of the leisure A350s then. The A332s will definitely be gone by then.
#961120 by 747G-VXLG
17 Jun 2021, 17:31
G-VKSS positioned from Manchester to Heathrow this afternoon as VS810P. This will probably be the next aircraft to return to service given the fact that KSS received big maintenance at Dresden earlier this year.
#961167 by 747G-VXLG
25 Jun 2021, 19:15
G-VNYC undertook a short test flight earlier today as VS808T. This aircraft along with 4 sister A333s (LUV, UFO, RAY & GBR) are showing no sign of returning to service any time soon. G-VLUV will be the next one to depart to Heathrow to return to service, but the timing of this is unknown.
All the A330s will be getting maintenance at Dresden at some point in the near future.
#961169 by mitchja
26 Jun 2021, 11:24
My MAN>JFK flights for September have just switched from an A333 to a B789.
#961170 by 747G-VXLG
26 Jun 2021, 12:55
mitchja wrote:My MAN>JFK flights for September have just switched from an A333 to a B789.


Some BGI and MCO flights from MAN and LHR are being changed as well.
#961213 by 747G-VXLG
01 Jul 2021, 18:29
Half of the A330-300 fleet are now back in the skies after KSS returning to service today.

The whole fleet should be back in the skies by late autumn.
#961619 by 747G-VXLG
07 Aug 2021, 23:40
DIAZLUXO wrote:How many new routes would have to be announced to warrant some A330neo options firmed up? My guess is 4


I think more A350s would be more likely than more A339s given that more leisure routes are the mostly likely new routes.
#961628 by VS075
09 Aug 2021, 12:55
747G-VXLG wrote:
DIAZLUXO wrote:How many new routes would have to be announced to warrant some A330neo options firmed up? My guess is 4


I think more A350s would be more likely than more A339s given that more leisure routes are the mostly likely new routes.


I'm not sure I agree with that. A330neo's are presumably cheaper to buy and they have options on them, plus if you're launching new routes it's better to start with a small aircraft and upgauge if needed. Also gone are the days where the 747 was the only option for any routes that were longer than 5,000nm, along with the "4 engines 4 long haul" way of thinking. The A350's are there for the busiest routes as VS only had 787-9 and A330-300s in the fleet at the time and needed something bigger to see off the remaining A340/747's.

Thinking critically, as much as I miss the 747s I believe 787 and A330-sized aircraft are the right fit for VS for a lot of their routes and are ideally sized to launch new routes. 260-odd seats on an A330 is easier to fill than 335 seats on an A350 or even approx. 400 seats that's supposed to be going into the 'leisure' A350's.

It's also worth bearing mind VS had to borrow a lot of money just to stay afloat during the pandemic. That will need to be repaid at some point. Aircraft deliveries were also deferred.

FInally, I can't see any new aircraft orders until VS have recovered and the debt load is smaller and a lot of that hinges on the opening up of markets that have been closed since March 2020. If expansion does take place sooner rather than later, it could be more cost-effective to take out new leases on the A330-300's that are due to exit the fleet.
#961632 by 747G-VXLG
10 Aug 2021, 17:01
Does anyone know why G-VWAG diverted to Palma de Mallorca on the way back from Lagos today?
#961644 by getinjonathan
11 Aug 2021, 12:00
747G-VXLG wrote:Does anyone know why G-VWAG diverted to Palma de Mallorca on the way back from Lagos today?


She was diverted due to a medical emergency.
#961926 by 747G-VXLG
06 Sep 2021, 14:15
A few updates on the A330s:
G-VINE will position to Dresden for maintenance today for a routine undercarriage replacement and swap with G-VMIK which will position to LHR.
G-VGBR will return to service very soon.
The A333s also took over the VS187/8 flights today LHR-BGI-GND-BGI-LHR with G-VRAY operating today.
G-VNYC, G-VLUV and G-VUFO should depart Manchester very soon to LHR to return to service - I will update when I know when.
G-VWND and G-VLNM will remain at Manchester for now but may have test flights.
#961927 by 747G-VXLG
06 Sep 2021, 15:32
G-VGBR has just returned to service operating the VS505/506 LHR-BRU-LHR cargo rotation. This is the 7th A330-300 to return to service.
#962743 by 747G-VXLG
12 Nov 2021, 17:26
There are now no longer any A330-300s parked in Manchester:
G-VGBR - In service LHR
G-VGEM - In service LHR
G-VINE - In service LHR
G-VKSS - In service MAN
G-VLUV - In service LHR
G-VNYC - Maintenance XMN
G-VRAY - In service LHR
G-VSXY - In service LHR
G-VUFO - VS812P MAN-LHR (Maintenance for a few weeks)
G-VWAG - In service LHR

Both A330-200s remain in Manchester for now. There has been no mention about their fate yet.
#962830 by 747G-VXLG
22 Nov 2021, 21:47
G-VNYC will be the final A330-300 to return to service after 20 months in storage later tonight as VS411 to Lagos.
The entire A330-300 fleet is now back in operation.
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