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#21668 by PVGSLF
26 Oct 2007, 13:30
Here's a word from the wise - should any of you be in the unfortunate situation of needing a same day service for an Indian Visa.

Being mostly based overseas long term, but rarely resident in a country, I sometimes find it difficult to get Visa's for certain countries, India being one of them.
To get an indian visa from a consulate in a country which you do not have a passport from, you either need a residence permit in that country, or jump through various other hoops such as having a letter from a company in that country as to why you are there, and then the applications can take an indeterminant length of time.

So.... Needing to go to India directly after leaving Korea, but not being able to be with out my passport for more than a week due to other travel commitments, I had to return to the UK to get a same day visa enroute from Korea to Mumbai via shanghai and London.

I arrived on sunday evening, and booked into a hotel on the Strand within 5 minutes walk of the Indian High Commission on Aldwych. (I later discovered I could have enjoyed the Waldorf which is directly opposite where I susequently spent nearly 5 hours queuing on the pavement!)

Co-incidentally to my arrival back in the UK, my parents had heard a feature on the radio of someone telling of their ordeal in trying to get an Indian Visa, and a little research on the internet confirmed how chaotic it had become and how early the queue started forming.

SO I STARTED QUEUING AT 4AM, and there was already 60 odd people in front of me.
By the time the queue number allocation window opened at 8:30 there were many hundreds of people behind me. (Search YouTube for various videos of this!)
Apparently they can only deal with a maximum of 1500 visa's a day, and since a number of travel agents couriers camp out all night and grab large quantities of queue numbers (1 number = 1 passport)very soon after the queue starts moving at 8:30, all the numbers for the day are allocated, and you run the risk of being given a queue number for two weeks in the future.

Now, you can avoid all this hassle by of course dealing with it through a travel agent and having them do the queueing, but a number of those are now saying allow up to six weeks to get your passport back since they are also at the mercy of queue numbers, so if you need a visa in a short time scale the only thing to do is join the queue very early.

Once I was inside the visa hall at shortly before 9am the whole process with pretty efficient (if a little disorderly and confusing at first), but I heard that by 9:30 "on the day" queue numbers had been exhausted, and as I left with my shiny new visa at 10:30 there was a near riot outside!

What surprised me the most was the number of people in the queue around me who were going to India on Holiday the next day, and had left the visa to the last minute, only to discover how difficult it has become!
#188312 by slinky09
26 Oct 2007, 13:43
Simon - that's very different to my experiences (am now on my third Indian business visa) ... I usually trot along to Aldwych at about 10.45 or 11.00, by which time the queues are gone and my total time spent is about 45 minutes from arrival until walking out with new visa.

You'll see that there are two visa halls, each apparently has 1,500 tickets but one person / one ticket can apply for many visas (all their family for example). Yes it's fairly chaotic but it basically works. Actually, I'm often more amazed at the amount of cash the system generates!!!

I've heard stories about queuing at ungodly hours but by accident discovered the above process and it has worked fine for me.

That said, it is Diwali, the festival of lights, in the next couple of weeks in India and many, many people will be travelling to be with family and celebrate in the festivities. May be it is that that has lead to the extra people at the High Commission. Also, it is just post -Summer which is the low season for Indians in particular travelling and, I suggest Monday is always likely the busiest day. Seems you got a combination of all of these hence the ordeal.
#188316 by PVGSLF
26 Oct 2007, 13:56
Yep, Business visa no.2 for me. No.1 was low stress
I beleive it is, as you say, a combination of a number of factors, but it is definately now one queue number, one passport (you need to show all the passports you are applying for at the queue number window):

-The Birmingham Consulate is apparently closed for refurbishment.
-They have stopped accepting postal applications due to the recent strikes.
-Diwali.
-Monday.
-And to try and cope with all these factors they have reduced the number of travel agent queue numbers they issue - hence pushing up the lead times via travel agents, and perhaps encouraging more people to go in person.

That said... I'm trying to get a visa appointment on the French Emabassy website for MrsPVG, and that seems to be booked out months in advance.
#188323 by slinky09
26 Oct 2007, 14:41
That's useful to know - thankfully I recently renewed and they gave me 2 years, so I won't have to face it for a while. Hope you got a good extension too.
#188327 by jaguarpig
26 Oct 2007, 15:48
Do you need a visa for a short tourist stay?
#188340 by slinky09
26 Oct 2007, 16:50
Originally posted by jaguarpig
Do you need a visa for a short tourist stay?


Yes I believe you do, check out:

All foreign nationals, including children, require a visa to enter India. Please do not finalise your travel arrangements to India before ascertaining the visa requirements.


At:

http://www.hcilondon.net/visa/index.jsp
#188343 by PVGSLF
26 Oct 2007, 17:17
Yes, A number of people in the queue around me had found out at the last minute they need a visa even for a short stay in Goa. (great travel agents!)

Hard to believe as the ex colonial power I'm sure.... but as Slinky says, it's a nice little earner for them (at at least £30 per person times 1500 per day!), and like most Visa's purely reciprocal!
#188344 by lovetoholiday
26 Oct 2007, 17:31
Originally posted by slinky09
Originally posted by jaguarpig
Do you need a visa for a short tourist stay?


Yes I believe you do, check out:

All foreign nationals, including children, require a visa to enter India. Please do not finalise your travel arrangements to India before ascertaining the visa requirements.


At:

http://www.hcilondon.net/visa/index.jsp



Yes, a visa is required for tourists too. We queued in the rain and cold before our India holiday last year, and have done on previous visits before.
Once inside its lovely and cosy, quite warm and a bit chaotic, and the staff are a bit abrupt...that's what they call acclimatisation :D
#188363 by jaguarpig
26 Oct 2007, 20:50
Thanks, looks like Bombay is off the agenda for a while.
#188371 by slinky09
26 Oct 2007, 22:34
Originally posted by jaguarpig
Thanks, looks like Bombay is off the agenda for a while.


Don't do that simply because of the visa queues! Mumbai (not Bombay :D) is fabulous. Loads of sights, great shopping, good restaurants and clubs and bars, mad as hell and chaotic but one of the world's great cities. People are ace too (thought the beggars and the street husslers do require your stern rejection).
#188374 by RichardMannion
26 Oct 2007, 23:00
I've had two Indian visas for my passport, and both were done by AmEx's visa service very quickly. Couple of days each time. I asked for a 12 month vias first time round, and ended up with a 6 month visa for some reason, and then on 2nd application got a 12 month visa. They were not cheap for the mult-entry business Visa's - seem to recall a charge of £120.

If I remember they charged more if you had a US passport! It was a lot of work interms of supporting paperwork, letters of business introduction etc.

Thanks,
Richard
#188387 by mas66
27 Oct 2007, 09:03
If you dont fancy the queue, I can echo Richards recommendation of the service amex offer. As Richard says it takes a little bit of prep for a business visa, but you will have your passport back in your hands well within 72 hours.

Cheers

Mark :D
#188401 by jaguarpig
27 Oct 2007, 11:47
Don't do that simply because of the visa queues!

At the moment Our trips are all very short duration and I really can't afford the time midweek in London getting a visa.The AMEX route may work though.
Mumbai (not Bombay )

Mumbywood just doesn't sound right :D
#188523 by goanmad
28 Oct 2007, 23:16
-The Birmingham Consulate is apparently closed for refurbishment.
-They have stopped accepting postal applications due to the recent strikes.


We have had seven tourist visa's through London and Birmingham, last December we queued and had no problems getting a Visa from Birmingham.[y]
This year was different;
We arrived at the Embassy at 07:50 thinking that would be early enough[:?] To find about 120 people in front of us[:0]
The Embassy open's at 09:30, and at 09:32 an Indian Embassy employee was telling people that they had the full allocation for passports for that day (Birmingham accept only 50 passports per day)[n][:?][:0], but if people were travelling within the next few day's and they had their tickets with them they would be seen?
At 09:32 the queue had not moved and we had already been turned away[:(]Some people had been there since 04:30 and did not get seen[n][V]

We found a local travel agent and went and saw him that day, he checked our applications and lodged them at the Embassy, we had our passports back within 15days[^][y][oo]:D and he only charged us £14.50 each including Special delivery.

Had we known of this service before going to The Embassy, it would have saved us spending money on 2 nights in the Crowne Plaza and travel costs and two days holiday wasted[:w][:w]

There is a list of Travel Agents that deal with Visa's on the website's of London and Birmingham Embassy's, if I can give a word of advice it would be to phone around and get the Visa service costs (Visa is £30 and the Travel agent charges on top of this)also ask what is the average time taken for return of the visa's, they vary between Travel Agents and can be 6-8 weeks wait[:0][:0].

IMHO, someone is having a good attempt at crippling the Indian Tourist business, and they are doing a damn fine job[V][n][?][:?]
#188540 by PVGSLF
29 Oct 2007, 08:34
As everyone says - Travel Agents are the way to do it... BUT be very cautious as the wait times are getting much longer, so plan well in advance, or prepare yourself for queuing from 4:30am!

It's strange, I would have assumed somewhere such a Goa would allow on arrival visa's for direct charter flights at least. China's tropical retreat of Hainan Island allows on arrival visa's, though since it's an island they can probably stop you going further in to china without the correct visa.
#188547 by willd
29 Oct 2007, 11:46
My father had the option of using his companys major corporate travel agent to get his business visa but decided to go along and pick up in person. Much less hassle- he was there an hour and had the visa- the corporate travel agent was quoting five weeks! Guess its luck of the draw.
#188552 by slinky09
29 Oct 2007, 12:58
Originally posted by willd
My father had the option of using his companys major corporate travel agent to get his business visa but decided to go along and pick up in person. Much less hassle- he was there an hour and had the visa- the corporate travel agent was quoting five weeks! Guess its luck of the draw.


It certainly seems like that - and I can't think of a five week period in the last two years when I didn't need my passport ...
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