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#806303 by pjh
28 Mar 2012, 09:34
This must have been scary, particularly as it started with the person nominally in charge of the flight...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17530734

Paul
#806304 by Concorde RIP
28 Mar 2012, 10:01
Very scary indeed I'd have thought.

I'd lay a penny to a pound (cent to dlooar!) that this is stress related. Imagine, day in day out, being security screened (and those TSA guys are rather power crazed etc), being leant on by your company, having pensions reduced, schedules increased, constant worry about security on board - the stress just got to this guiy, I'm almost certain.

A more sobering thought, is what if he had been one of the flight deck crew permitted to carry a gun? Now that is a scary thought.....

Poor guy - if you assume that no-one would do that normally, he must have been under extreme stress, and who knows what is going on away from work...
#806312 by preiffer
28 Mar 2012, 13:18
To be the one who "puts it out there"...

What if there HAD been a bomb on the plane? And all the passengers saw was the *captain* being prevented access to the cockpit he had left? And he ended up being the one restrained...

Clearly, in this case, the right thing was done in restraining him - but it's interesting to think about, no?
#806314 by tontybear
28 Mar 2012, 13:25
And of course there was that poor flight attendant a couple of weeks ago.

I see there are already calls for stricter screening for pilots but they are already screened thoroughly and have regular medical checks. But the people calling for more screening never actually say what they want doing differently.
#806315 by Concorde RIP
28 Mar 2012, 13:42
And what would they screen for? Everyone has limits to stress...

I've read of cases before where crew will hide issues affecting them at home, hide medical issues, all because of their perception that they'll affectively loose their jobs.

Any screening should include airline management.
#806319 by Monkey789
28 Mar 2012, 14:23
preiffer wrote:What if there HAD been a bomb on the plane? And all the passengers saw was the *captain* being prevented access to the cockpit he had left? And he ended up being the one restrained...

Clearly, in this case, the right thing was done in restraining him - but it's interesting to think about, no?


From someone that has experience in dealing with mentally ill people, I personally think anyone could easily tell the difference between someone who's screaming that there's a bomb on board and being genuine, to someone who's screaming it because they're ill.
#806320 by preiffer
28 Mar 2012, 15:37
scnickr wrote:
preiffer wrote:What if there HAD been a bomb on the plane? And all the passengers saw was the *captain* being prevented access to the cockpit he had left? And he ended up being the one restrained...

Clearly, in this case, the right thing was done in restraining him - but it's interesting to think about, no?


From someone that has experience in dealing with mentally ill people, I personally think anyone could easily tell the difference between someone who's screaming that there's a bomb on board and being genuine, to someone who's screaming it because they're ill.

Fair point - not being onboard, I can only assume that was the case. Just thinking through if I saw a captain banging on the door of a cockpit trying to get in, my first thought would probably be that the person on the other side was the risk, not the captain. BUT, as I say, we weren't there, so I guess will never know the circumstances.
#806321 by Monkey789
28 Mar 2012, 15:49
preiffer wrote:
scnickr wrote:
preiffer wrote:What if there HAD been a bomb on the plane? And all the passengers saw was the *captain* being prevented access to the cockpit he had left? And he ended up being the one restrained...

Clearly, in this case, the right thing was done in restraining him - but it's interesting to think about, no?


From someone that has experience in dealing with mentally ill people, I personally think anyone could easily tell the difference between someone who's screaming that there's a bomb on board and being genuine, to someone who's screaming it because they're ill.

Fair point - not being onboard, I can only assume that was the case. Just thinking through if I saw a captain banging on the door of a cockpit trying to get in, my first thought would probably be that the person on the other side was the risk, not the captain. BUT, as I say, we weren't there, so I guess will never know the circumstances.


Yes I know what you mean. Especially that he was the captain! Scary stuff for sure.
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