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#849227 by gumshoe
22 Jun 2013, 20:41
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This was my first Little Red flight so as a big fan of the VS long-haul product (well UC anyway!), I was interested to see how it measured up.

Having read different stories about not being able to choose certain seats online only to find when boarding that the front rows were blocked off, I was keen to find out what actually happened. For this flight, no seats in rows 1, 12 and 13 were ever available to choose online - before or after OLCI opened.

So I'd selected 2C but when I arrived at a deserted check-in about 2 hours before the flight and enquired whether anything was available in row 1, I was told all but 1A and 1B were available so I snapped up 1D.

Next stop - the Servisair lounge to see if it was really as bad as the reviews made out! I presented my AU card at the reception only to be politely but firmly told I needed an invitation (which I wasn't given at check-in). So back downstairs to get one from the Little Red transfer desk. Second time lucky and I was in. Well it's certainly no Clubhouse and functional would probably be the best word to describe it - more akin to a US airport lounge I'd say. The food selection (at 4pm) was soup, rolls, various cakes, snacks (nuts, olives etc) and fruit. The self-service bar was basic but at least there was one!

Only stayed in the lounge for about 30 minutes, it just felt too oppressive and the huge seating area next to gate 8 where the Little Red flights leave from is much more pleasant with its great views of the airfield. Boarding began about 35 mins before departure and strangely there was no "first call" for priority boarding for UC & AU pax - just general boarding (though there was a priority lane).

Once on board it turned out 1A and 1B were occupied by off-duty cabin crew (don't know whether Little Red or main VS) while 1F was taken by a captain from MEA. I did get a strange sort of feeling that "normal" passengers aren't supposed to be in row 1 - it only seems to be allocated at airport check-in and is clearly the preferred crew row! No rows were blocked off. Row 1 does have good legroom compared to the other rows so is to be recommended if you're tall although the overhead bins immediately above row 1 aren't for passenger use.

Only 67 pax on board so just over a third full (not great for a Friday evening). The cabin crew were Manchester-based and were courteous and professional but not particularly warm or friendly. Refreshments consisted of a drink and a Little Red branded pack of Tyrell's crisps. Departure and arrival were both around 5 minutes early.

So what did I think of Little Red? Well if I'm honest I was a tiny bit underwhelmed by it. Let's be clear: there was nothing whatsoever wrong with it, but I do think if VS seriously want to challenge BA - and for that matter Virgin Trains - they need to offer something a bit different, something that gives the "wow" factor that needn't cost much but makes you think "I wish BA did that". As it is, it's a perfectly good but average product.

Terminal 1 is a soulless place and that's hardly VS's fault: hopefully when Little Red move into T2 they can improve things. But the Servisair lounge is no advert for the VS brand and certainly won't win over premium pax from BA. It also doesn't help that the lounge is about as far from gate 8 as it's possible to get. At no time, on the ground or on the aircraft, was my AU status recognised - it was disappointing that I wasn't automatically offered a lounge invitation at check-in (ok, I didn't show my AU card but surely their computer tells them?). And on board, while I appreciate there's little you can do in terms of service on a 40 minute flight, a bog-standard drink and a tiny packet of crisps just seemed very ... average. Virgin America seems to have managed to make itself a bit different and "cooler" than the legacy US carriers: perhaps VS should learn a lesson or two from its sister airline.

In summary then - not a bad experience, just an average one. An opportunity to stand out from the crowd seems to have been missed.

(As a post-script, I've just done OLCI for my return flight tomorrow, only to find I've been turfed out of 2C and moved to 8C, and the first 6 rows are completely greyed out. Hmmmmm - not a good omen! Let's see what happens when I ask for row 1 at MAN tomorrow - watch this space!)
#849231 by horburyflyer
22 Jun 2013, 21:31
Wow...the difference 24hrs(or so!) makes. Earlier today I flew up to MAN from LHR on VS3047 and things were very different....I can understand though why you would be underwhelmed.

I agree the ground team at LHR and MAN for that matter should be able to see that you are an AU holder. For some strange reason an invitation is needed at LHR for the lounge but not at MAN as you will find out tomorrow...the escape reception just need to see your boarding card and gold card.

The Servisair lounge at LHR is very basic and though I do visit it weekly currently, I did think this lunchtime it looked shabby and I stayed only about the same time you did. The location from the gate is not something VS can do or will do anything about...the move to T2 may present a new opportunity!!! ):

I do like the gold sticker though which is applied to the boarding card at LHR which allows you to use the fast track and at MAN.....the sticker may be green but the same benefit applies.

Shame about the crew as I have always had friendly, chatty and personal service. The service has always been fantastic. It is of course different now, as they know what I want to drink and that I usually sit in the same seat....I flew back up today and the crew were marvellous handing out two rounds drinks to those that wished....though we did only have 27 on board.

Priority boarding has also been enforced on my flights except for one heavily delayed service from MAN and as you say a priority lane is always available, so unsure what happened there. I also like the specific welcome to Au holders onboard which doesn't happen on long haul services.

I agree the little bag of crisps is more of a gimmick but the giant cookie is more like it in my opinion.....the bacon rolls on the breakfast departure from MAN are also rather good I think unless I have lost all my senses...... :0

Such a shame your first experience was under par and I agree VS need to work hard but I am a huge fan of Little red and like the fun and friendly service which I hope you get to sample tomorrow :D

For me, Little red win hands down on this route compared to BA who I just find far too stuffy. Hope tomorrow brings a different experience....do post and let us know how you get along and what you think of the escape lounge which only moved upstairs a month or so ago.... ii)

Jon
#849232 by gumshoe
22 Jun 2013, 21:45
Interesting, thanks Jon.

The check-in agent certainly didn't stick a priority sticker on my boarding card (I can only assume he didn't notice I was AU). Luckily there was hardly any queue at security - otherwise it would have been very annoying to know in retrospect that I could have gone through fast-track.

And I certainly wasn't given or offered a giant cookie - only a "little red" bag of crisps.

Maybe they were just having an off day - let's hope they're on better form at MAN tomorrow as I really want Little Red to be a success.
#849259 by Petmadness
23 Jun 2013, 10:09
Jon, stop teasing Gumshoe v( Great to see you max out tier points and miles by flying LR to the maximum during the promo period oo) Interesting reflection on yields Gumshoe, though I think they are typical for a new route :?
#849261 by horburyflyer
23 Jun 2013, 10:36
Petmadness wrote:Jon, stop teasing Gumshoe v( Great to see you max out tier points and miles by flying LR to the maximum during the promo period oo) Interesting reflection on yields Gumshoe, though I think they are typical for a new route :?


): :D :o) .....I believe the EDI service is doing very well indeed. From experience the MAN is slowly building and long may that continue.....was hoping they would extend the double miles offer but alas not as yet ii)

What is good to see is the majority flying down on LR from Manchester are transferring onto VS long-haul which I know is exactly what the service was designed for.

Jon
#849264 by joeyc
23 Jun 2013, 11:23
horburyflyer wrote:was hoping they would extend the double miles offer but alas not as yet ii)


Not got enough miles stashed away yet Jon? :P

Great TR gumshoe, shame the experience didn't blow you away but I suppose LR is still quite new.

Time will tell I guess, good luck on nabbing row 1 8D
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