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#254201 by Neil
23 Apr 2008, 19:19
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Whilst agreeing to fly outbound to MCO in Y, I wasn't going to be so kind hearted regarding the inbound and made my side of the bargain that if we flew outbound in Economy, inbound HAD to be in UC, something that would be our first UC flight. It took a while for Luke to agree but eventually all was sorted and I managed to bag 6A&K straight after booking, checking almost weekly to ensure we still had them.

So after an interesting flight out and 2 very tiring but enjoyable weeks in Orlando, time had come to head home. Whilst disappointed that our holiday was ending I was also quite excited by the fact we had out first UC experience to come and this did soften the blow a little. I had checked the VS site before we left our villa to see if the outbound flights had all left on time and whilst the MAN flight was on time, both the Gatwick flights and the Glasgow one were all running 2 hours late.

We dropped the car back off at Dollar and made our way to the VS check in area that is now located in Terminal A. I had done OLCI the previous day, mainly to ensure the Luke's sister and family got their assigned seats, so they headed to the bag drop area whilst Luke and I made our way to the empty UC check in. I noticed on the board that thankfully our flight was on time and each of the other 3 had over a 2hour delay, lucky for us that VS decided not to do a swap over with one of the LGW flights. The check in agent was very efficient and chatty, sorting us out with no problems, we were asked if we were taking a guest into the lounge and passes were sorted accordingly with directions also given. Our bags were weighed and taken from us and we waited whilst Luke's sister finished their formalities before headed over to security.

Security was quick, with the usual shouting about removing shoes and placing everything in boxes. The excitement of my upcoming trip had obviously affected me as I had for some reason packed a bottle we were bringing back as a present in my new carry on (a bargain from the Samsonite store in one of the malls) and this was of course duly confiscated by the nice security lady, oh well, worse things happen at sea.

We headed over on the train and then up to the Delta Crown lounge. There were 7 of us in our party but we only had enough passes for 6 of us to get in (mine and Luke's UC invites +1 guest each, plus our priority pass cards). We were happy to pay the 15 for the extra guest but the very nice lady at the desk said she would just put us down as a 6[y]. We found a spot in the conservatory type area overlooking the runway and made this our home for the next couple of hours. Again the lounge is nothing special, free drinks and a few snacks, but boy was I glad we were in there when I went for a walk and saw family after family sat on the terminal floor due to the lack of seating.

About 5:15 and me now getting very excited, we headed towards the gate area and almost straight away a call was made for UC/Au pax to board. We started to gather our things and wish Luke's sister a comfy flight in Y, and then PE were called, thankfully they used the right hand normal lane and the left hand carpeted lane was kept purely for UC/Au pax[y] I know it has been discussed so many times, but why oh why VS can't sort this in the UK I don't know as it worked so well here. Straight onto the a/c to be just pointed to the left with 'all the way to the front' type grunt from the CC, not the best of starts I thought. We were the first into the UC cabin and were totally ignored for a minute or so by the 2 CC members stood talking, here my worry alarms started to go off, knowing what I had read on here about the so called attitude problems on CC on MCO flights, I started to become concerned. We sat down and Luke noticed straight away that his table had a big 'I'm broken, please do not use me' sticker over it, we mentioned it to the CC who had just come over to give us some drinks and we got a 'oh yer, I hadn't seen that' response, 'I'll speak to the FSM' . Great I thought, rubbish crew and broken suite, thankfully this is where the bad stopped and the good started.

We decided to swap seats as I was less likely to use the table and had another glass of champers whilst the rest of the a/c was boarding. The FSM came over and explained that she had spoken to the engineers and they were waiting for a part so the table was def out of action. I was offered 50 but asked for miles instead which was no problem, 15k and I said I was more than happy to eat with Luke at his suite (she said I could sit at the bar if I had wanted). Spent the rest of the time getting used to the suite, the CC member came over and gave us a demo of how to operate everything, the snooze pack was handed out (I must say, it is pretty crap) and sleep suits were handed out too. I found the suite in seat mode quite comfy actually although I did find the position buttons very sensitive and changed my position by mistake on numerous occasions throughout the flight.

Not sure if we took off on time as neither of us had a watch but the Captain came on and announced a rather slow 7hr 45min flight time was likely (I was hoping for longer to be honest[:I]). I really enjoyed the view from the UCS when taxing/take off, very easy to look out of the windows behind but also a great view out of the window opposite, although I imagine this was enhanced by the fact we were in 6A&K. I did however find the sensation when taxing quite weird, being in front of the wheel it looks like you are about to take a trip over the grass, quite weird.

Straight after take off the CC came round again taking drinks orders, the bar was set up with snacks etc and everyone in the cabin just seemed to start talking to each other, something that continued right throughout the flight until the lights went out, this really made the first part of the flight go really quickly and it was nice how the bar/ottoman allows the social side to come out more.. Drinks (champers again[:I]) received our food orders were taken, and I now decided to go change into my sleep suit. I had asked for a large and boy was it large, the sizes are VERY generous and I honestly think I could have coped with Luke's small. Back to some more chatting and the FSM came round with the basket of extras and to have a chat with everyone.

The menu was:

Starters
Seasonal leaf salad with smoked salmon
Carrot & Ginger soup

Main courses
Short-rib beef and Guinness Stew, thyme roasted potatoes & vegetable
Grilled scallop and shrimp linguini with clam sauce
Brie and roasted vegetable pie

Dessert
Apple & brown butter tart with caramel sauce
Chocolate ice cream with raspberry and vodka sauce

I chose the Soup and Beef and Luke had the Salad and Linguini. Luke's table was set and we continued chatting with the rest of the cabin whilst the CC prepared the meals and dishing out more champers. Soon enough our starters were brought out, Luke really enjoyed his salad and my soup was nice but nothing special and after about half a bowl it became a bit samey and I had to leave it. A good amount of time was left between our starter and the main course being served. My beef was tasty and well cooked and Luke enjoyed his linguini, although there was a lot of pasta. Neither of us had desert or cheese. We decided to take a little souvenir of our first UC flight and thanks to the CC who pointed out the salt and pepper pots had 'pinched from Virgin Atlantic' on the bottom of them we decided it would be rude not too! Overall I thought the food was ok/good, certainly nothing special but it was nice to eat on a proper plate and the way it was presented/served was good but I would have like to have seen more choice as apart from what I had, nothing else I would have eaten.

During the meal the FSM came round with the wine, and got chatting with us again, when Luke decided it was a good time (a good time = after 4 glasses of champers!) to tell her I would be writing a report about the flight and the crew. Well, she loved the idea, started asking about the site, was more than happy for her picture to be taken and posted and we had a really good chat with her. All of the crew serving us were like this, really friendly and nothing was ever too much trouble, they were without doubt the best feature of our first UC flight, and certainly at no point did we feel like we were being rushed to eat then sleep, something that is discussed a bit on here.

After a quick visit down back to see the rest of our party, and a trip back up front with Luke's niece (with the permission of the crew) who wanted to see what it was like, and she if the lad she fancied was in UC as the last she had seen of him was him turning left at the a/c doors, he wasn't so off she went and the CC sorted our beds out for us. This timed quite nicely with my head suddenly realising I had maybe had one too many glasses of champers [:I].

Into bed I popped, duvet over me and off I went into the land of nod. I slept pretty much through until 1hr 30mins before landing when I had just woken up before the crew came round to say breakfast would be served. I slept quite well in the suite, although did find it quite bumpy, not sure if this was due to bad turbulence or the fact the we were right in the nose and could feel the bumps that little bit more[:?] I did however find the seatbelt on the ottoman really annoying when I was trying to sleep, it always seemed to be where I wanted my feet to go and I knocked it more times than I care to remember. Also I thought that the pillow provided was a bit rubbish too, looked nice a fluffy but was very flimsy and my head was basically on the base of the suite (and no, that's not just because I have a big head!).

Now I was awake I decide to quickly nip and get changed out of my ninja suit whilst most of the cabin where still asleep, bed changed back to the seat whilst I did this and then had my OJ and bacon roll delivered which I consumed whilst I dozed a bit until my body started to feel more awake. Bit by bit the cabin woke up and I had another OJ whilst the FSM came over and completed the paperwork about my broken table and sorted out my details for the extra miles. Watched skymap until we landed, again this was the only time throughout the flight I used the IFE and after another very informative report from the flight deck we landed about 25mins early at MAN. Had a long taxi back to the remote stand we departed off, waited ages for the doors to be opened and just managed to squeeze onto the first bus, passing the FSM at the doors, another reference to VF was made and she promised to have a look in. The bus drove us right to the other end of the terminal, where we then had to walk right back down to the end near our a/c for immigration.

Immigration was a breeze, although I am glad I wasn't going to be at the back of the queue when our a/c had emptied. Down into baggage reclaim and within 2minutes both our cases were off, we waited a couple of mins to say out goodbyes to Luke's sister and family and headed through to arrivals. As we were booked on D fare we had a CDC to take us back home, our driver was stood waiting for us in arrivals, straight out to his nice Volvo estate and we were back at home less just over 2 hours after landing[y][y][y]

How do I rate our first UC experience, well, very good really. It wasn't perfect but the issue with the broken table was sorted well by the CC and as I said, the best thing about the flight was the FSM and CC. Yes the suite was nice, it was much more comfy to sleep/fly in the bed than in Y or PE, the food was ok, we both really liked the private feel of cabin with their only being 14 suites but I am not sure how exclusive it will feel when we go our SFO flights in the much larger UC cabin. I imagine it could have been a very different flight if we had a different crew and other pax on our flight, and of course this being our first ever J flight everything was so much better than we have experienced before and I am sure had a more regular J/UC traveller been onboard they may have had a different opinion on things, but I can only give our thoughts and in the main we both were very impressed.

We are both thankful our next LH flights are in UC and we are both looking to experience the 'full' UC experience with the CH etc - I imagine we will now try and fly UC as much as possible, especially on the inbounds and probably use PE for the shorter East Coast flight outbounds.

Overall two very different but good flights on VS. I am still of the opinion that VS offer a good product in all 3 cabins and still don't quite understand the whole 'poor MAN' thoughts that are quite often discussed, but that's just my opinion. Sorry if I went on too long, why say it in 100 words when you can do so in 1000!!!!
#441781 by willd
23 Apr 2008, 19:38
What a great set of TR's. I have been checking all day today to see if you had posted the return leg. The wait was worth it.

Originally posted by Neil
I am still of the opinion that VS offer a good product in all 3 cabins and still don't quite understand the whole 'poor MAN' thoughts that are quite often discussed, but that's just my opinion.


I agree 100%. At the end of the day the whole VS product in all 3 classes is very good.
#441792 by HighFlyer
23 Apr 2008, 20:32
Another fab trip report, and really jolly well done. Its very fair and i think you hammer home the point about setting expectations. I'm glad you both really enjoyed the return flight. Will be interesting to see what your SFO experience is like for you in comparison.

We started to gather our things and wish Luke's sister a comfy flight in Y


Cruel, cruel man ... [:D]

Thanks,
Sarah
#441798 by honey lamb
23 Apr 2008, 21:09
Neil, all teasing aside these were two very well crafted and interesting trip reports.

We were the first into the UC cabin and were totally ignored for a minute or so by the 2 CC members stood talking, here my worry alarms started to go off, knowing what I had read on here about the so called attitude problems on CC on MCO flights, I started to become concerned.


I was interested to note that your initial reactions to the crew and the whole UC experience were informed by what you had read on V-flyer. Sometimes I think we set people up for disappointment by being hyper-critical of the service instead of looking at the bigger picture. I have on occasion boarded a flight thinking something similar. Perhaps the crew were less than welcoming at boarding but then they go on to provide a sterling service. Other times I have been rubbing my hands in glee only to be disappointed later on by a rather lacklustre performance. I'm glad that your crew turned it around for you
#441814 by Neil
24 Apr 2008, 07:33
I think you are right HL. Before both flights I had worries about what type of CC/service we were going to get after some of the threads/reports on here. I was most concerned for the UC return flight and kept talking it down to Luke, so that neither of us were too disappointed if it wasn't the best 'this flight is for the bed, we will get a true UC experience on our SFO flights' type of thing.

Thankfully our worries were misplaced and we had excellent CC/service both times.
#441815 by maz
24 Apr 2008, 08:31
A great report and so very helpful. Thanks.
#441817 by pjh
24 Apr 2008, 08:55
Nice pair! (of trip reports, that is). The compare / contrast of the Economy vs UC experience when both still fresh in your mind has been revealing, informative and entertaining.

Originally posted by Neil
Not sure if we took off on time as neither of us had a watch but the Captain came on and announced a rather slow 7hr 45min flight time was likely (I was hoping for longer to be honest[:I]).


Have to say I would too and it's been part of my thoughts when wondering about how to use my miles...but then again as you say

Originally posted by Neil
we both really liked the private feel of cabin with their only being 14 suites but I am not sure how exclusive it will feel when we go our SFO flights in the much larger UC cabin.


and there aren't that many longer flights with the 14 suite configuration.

Looking forward to your SFO reports..

Thanks for putting the TRs together.

Paul
#441836 by iforres1
24 Apr 2008, 11:58
Neil,

Thanks for the excellent TR'which were both humorous and informative, just the way I like them. You do know that is you done for now with regards to turning left[}:)]

Iain
#441844 by gillme
24 Apr 2008, 13:45
We flew MCO - MAN UC in January in 6A&K and my table was broken - hope it wasn't the same one not fixed!
#441846 by Neil
24 Apr 2008, 13:54
Originally posted by iforres1
You do know that is you done for now with regards to turning left[}:)]


I know Iain, been working out our finances today for our trip over New Year to see if I work UC in somehow[:I] I place blame firmly at the feet of everyone involved with V-Flyer for making me like this.

We flew MCO - MAN UC in January in 6A&K and my table was broken - hope it wasn't the same one not fixed!


We were on G-VROM, it was 6A that had the broken table.
#441874 by gillme
24 Apr 2008, 18:20
I was in 6K with the broken table - have the same seats booked next Monday so hope it has been fixed or I will have to share my table this time!
#441885 by Vegascrazy
24 Apr 2008, 21:01
Fantastic TR Neil [y] Has well & truly got me & Steve excited about our UC trip to BOS in June [:)]
#441888 by Howard Long
24 Apr 2008, 22:18
Originally posted by Neil
I now decided to go change into my sleep suit. I had asked for a large and boy was it large, the sizes are VERY generous


Being somewhat generous in stature these days, one of my favourite things about VS is that I can still comfortably fit into a medium sleep suit, even in the trouser department [:p]

H
#441890 by mitchja
24 Apr 2008, 22:32
Thanks for the TR Neil [:)]

Glad you enjoyed the flight. No more turning right now!! [:D]

Regards
#441893 by slinky09
24 Apr 2008, 23:17
Originally posted by Neil
Straight onto the a/c to be just pointed to the left with 'all the way to the front' type grunt from the CC, not the best of starts I thought.


LOL - I, unfortunately, am one of those who know exactly where I am sitting and usually rush through boarding to get to my seat. Now I read comments from CC saying that people like me don't give them time to do a personal greeting, let alone a grunt. So yesterday on the VS039 I thought I'll go real slow, give them time. Guess what ... the response ... 'other side and go left' [:?].

Originally posted by Howard Long
Being somewhat generous in stature these days, one of my favourite things about VS is that I can still comfortably fit into a medium sleep suit, even in the trouser department [:p]


Howard - you and me both. This alone makes me happy flying UC [}:)].
#441986 by n/a
26 Apr 2008, 02:10
Originally posted by Neil
this did soften the blow a little


[:w]

GJ
#442021 by MrsG
26 Apr 2008, 12:45
A super TR Neil[y] Top marks to the crew for making your first UC flight a memorable one. As has been written time and time again on V-Flyer, it really is the CC that can make or break a flight.


I imagine we will now try and fly UC as much as possible


You see, this is what happens once you fly UC. Soon you will find that travelling in PE is no longer good enough [:0] Become prepared to plunder your cash and miles reserves!
#442030 by mdvipond
26 Apr 2008, 15:30
Originally posted by Neil
it was nice to eat on a proper plate and the way it was presented/served was good but I would have like to have seen more choice as apart from what I had, nothing else I would have eaten.

I take it you decided to write this TR in the style of Yoda then? And Neil - outside of Hull most people tend to eat on 'proper plates'. Don't get too giddy about it.

Many thanks for a thoroughly entertaining report, dear boy and - as others have noted - welcome to the cursed world of UC flying.
#442049 by Darren Wheeler
26 Apr 2008, 19:13
Originally posted by mdvipond


Many thanks for a thoroughly entertaining report, dear boy and - as others have noted - welcome to the cursed world of UC flying.




Down the slippery slope......
#442059 by Scarlet46
27 Apr 2008, 00:22
Originally posted by mdvipond
Originally posted by Neil
it was nice to eat on a proper plate and the way it was presented/served was good but I would have like to have seen more choice as apart from what I had, nothing else I would have eaten.

I take it you decided to write this TR in the style of Yoda then? And Neil - outside of Hull most people tend to eat on 'proper plates'. Don't get too giddy about it.

Many thanks for a thoroughly entertaining report, dear boy and - as others have noted - welcome to the cursed world of UC flying.





eh em
my dog is called
YODA
and the other one
WINDU
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scar x
#442422 by easygoingeezer
30 Apr 2008, 23:01
Really enjoyed your tr's, you go on myt 'cool' list[^]

I will say I have noticed some pretty dodgy CCs on the MAN compared to LGW.
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