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#411976 by Decker
07 Jul 2007, 14:28
Excellent idea sir - I salute you [:)].
#651976 by Decker
07 Jul 2007, 14:28
Excellent idea sir - I salute you [:)].
#412006 by ucs4me
07 Jul 2007, 22:49
it great to go to the pub, enjoy a good beer and not stink of an old manky ash tray..!

this day has been long in coming.....
#652006 by ucs4me
07 Jul 2007, 22:49
it great to go to the pub, enjoy a good beer and not stink of an old manky ash tray..!

this day has been long in coming.....
#412207 by n/a
09 Jul 2007, 20:18
Originally posted by easygoingeezer
enjoy your fags


Thank you, I have one coming over this evening.

To offer a slightly different perspective, let me share the opinion of a frequent visitor. I am a smoker -- although quitting, erm, soon. I am also a lover of nightclubs and pubs; there's nothing more ecstatic for me than to go down Shoreditch to Plastic People for Buzzin' Fly night and dance till I am a wringing wet rag.

That said, in the past I would actually have to pack a pair of 'club pants' and the odd vest which I would keep in a plastic bag, away from my other clothes, as these were suffused with ciggy smoke. Either that, or besmirch the prestige of my hotel by hanging the damn things in a window, thus creating a Neopolitan peasant's laundry day look which I cannot imagine the hotel management appreciated (nor, frankly, did I).

Now I can pack what I want and wear what I want when out on the town. The restaurants and clubs I tend to frequent still have the smell of fags (oh, it's so fun to type that!) but this will diminish over time. At least it's not hanging in the thread of my clothing.

As a smoker, I am fine with going outdoors here in Seattle and, when they passed our new no-smoking ordinance, there was (and officially still is) a 25-foot-from-any-commercial-doorway ban but it is simply never enforced. Nonetheless, I walk down the street a bit and take the opportunity to do some windowshopping -- it was in this way I discovered my porcelain bust of Chairman Mao in an antique shop LOL

So, all in all, I find the ban lovely.

GJ
#652207 by n/a
09 Jul 2007, 20:18
Originally posted by easygoingeezer
enjoy your fags


Thank you, I have one coming over this evening.

To offer a slightly different perspective, let me share the opinion of a frequent visitor. I am a smoker -- although quitting, erm, soon. I am also a lover of nightclubs and pubs; there's nothing more ecstatic for me than to go down Shoreditch to Plastic People for Buzzin' Fly night and dance till I am a wringing wet rag.

That said, in the past I would actually have to pack a pair of 'club pants' and the odd vest which I would keep in a plastic bag, away from my other clothes, as these were suffused with ciggy smoke. Either that, or besmirch the prestige of my hotel by hanging the damn things in a window, thus creating a Neopolitan peasant's laundry day look which I cannot imagine the hotel management appreciated (nor, frankly, did I).

Now I can pack what I want and wear what I want when out on the town. The restaurants and clubs I tend to frequent still have the smell of fags (oh, it's so fun to type that!) but this will diminish over time. At least it's not hanging in the thread of my clothing.

As a smoker, I am fine with going outdoors here in Seattle and, when they passed our new no-smoking ordinance, there was (and officially still is) a 25-foot-from-any-commercial-doorway ban but it is simply never enforced. Nonetheless, I walk down the street a bit and take the opportunity to do some windowshopping -- it was in this way I discovered my porcelain bust of Chairman Mao in an antique shop LOL

So, all in all, I find the ban lovely.

GJ
#412211 by McCoy
09 Jul 2007, 20:37
Can't be too long before smoking dies out.

People will be healthier, and live longer. Of course, the government will have to replace the lost cash by raising tax on something else..

But at least the cancer sticks will be a memory....
#652211 by McCoy
09 Jul 2007, 20:37
Can't be too long before smoking dies out.

People will be healthier, and live longer. Of course, the government will have to replace the lost cash by raising tax on something else..

But at least the cancer sticks will be a memory....
#412217 by ucs4me
09 Jul 2007, 21:15
here here McCoy.....!!!
#652217 by ucs4me
09 Jul 2007, 21:15
here here McCoy.....!!!
#412227 by Neil
09 Jul 2007, 22:09
Originally posted by McCoy
Can't be too long before smoking dies out.


I can't see it ever dieing out. I had to laugh the other night, I so happened to be walking past the local working mens club about 10pm, it was cold and raining but there must have been 30 people minimum stood outside smoking. People are addicted, and whilst I am most glad of this lovely new ban, the government, as you mentioned, would have serious palpitations if everybody quit smoking and would have serious holes in their income.
#652227 by Neil
09 Jul 2007, 22:09
Originally posted by McCoy
Can't be too long before smoking dies out.


I can't see it ever dieing out. I had to laugh the other night, I so happened to be walking past the local working mens club about 10pm, it was cold and raining but there must have been 30 people minimum stood outside smoking. People are addicted, and whilst I am most glad of this lovely new ban, the government, as you mentioned, would have serious palpitations if everybody quit smoking and would have serious holes in their income.
#412245 by McCoy
09 Jul 2007, 22:45
Indeed... errr.. my post was supposed to be subtley humourous/ironic. May have missed the mark a bit... ;)
#652245 by McCoy
09 Jul 2007, 22:45
Indeed... errr.. my post was supposed to be subtley humourous/ironic. May have missed the mark a bit... ;)
#412246 by Neil
09 Jul 2007, 22:49
Originally posted by McCoy
Indeed... errr.. my post was supposed to be subtley humourous/ironic. May have missed the mark a bit... ;)



Subtle struggles to work on me at the best of times and it's been a long long day, so I need glaringly obvious at the minute[:I][:I]
#652246 by Neil
09 Jul 2007, 22:49
Originally posted by McCoy
Indeed... errr.. my post was supposed to be subtley humourous/ironic. May have missed the mark a bit... ;)



Subtle struggles to work on me at the best of times and it's been a long long day, so I need glaringly obvious at the minute[:I][:I]
#412502 by honey lamb
12 Jul 2007, 00:30
It is nothing to do with the health aspect, I for one, do not believe that passive smoking causes cancer

So please tell me why my non-smoking husband died of a smoking-related cancer having worked all his life in a smoking environment some 14 years ago? The entertainer Roy Castle also died around the same time making a similar claim.

The smoking ban has been over here for the last 3 years and research has shown that the health of workers in the hospitality area has improved considerably
#652502 by honey lamb
12 Jul 2007, 00:30
It is nothing to do with the health aspect, I for one, do not believe that passive smoking causes cancer

So please tell me why my non-smoking husband died of a smoking-related cancer having worked all his life in a smoking environment some 14 years ago? The entertainer Roy Castle also died around the same time making a similar claim.

The smoking ban has been over here for the last 3 years and research has shown that the health of workers in the hospitality area has improved considerably
#412571 by McCoy
12 Jul 2007, 19:48
There's proper evidence now that passive smoking causes a much higher risk of getting cancers - and not just lung cancer. Several publications in the BMJ and NEJM, if you search for them. It's no longer disputed.

If someone walked into a pub and started emptying cans of benzene everywhere, and pumping carbon monoxide out of containers, it would of course be considered highly inappropriate and illegal. Probably quite reasonable that smoking has been stopped in public places.
#652571 by McCoy
12 Jul 2007, 19:48
There's proper evidence now that passive smoking causes a much higher risk of getting cancers - and not just lung cancer. Several publications in the BMJ and NEJM, if you search for them. It's no longer disputed.

If someone walked into a pub and started emptying cans of benzene everywhere, and pumping carbon monoxide out of containers, it would of course be considered highly inappropriate and illegal. Probably quite reasonable that smoking has been stopped in public places.
#412715 by Paul H
13 Jul 2007, 22:53
Pub sales down by 1.3% since the smoking ban.
It has also been pi**ing down since the ban so maybe that is where the sales reduction has come from.
#652715 by Paul H
13 Jul 2007, 22:53
Pub sales down by 1.3% since the smoking ban.
It has also been pi**ing down since the ban so maybe that is where the sales reduction has come from.
#413398 by stoneman
18 Jul 2007, 19:23
Originally posted by McCoy
There's proper evidence now that passive smoking causes a much higher risk of getting cancers - and not just lung cancer. Several publications in the BMJ and NEJM, if you search for them. It's no longer disputed.

If someone walked into a pub and started emptying cans of benzene everywhere, and pumping carbon monoxide out of containers, it would of course be considered highly inappropriate and illegal. Probably quite reasonable that smoking has been stopped in public places.

Oh yeah, thats right, they test it by making monkeys stay within 10ft. of a smoking machine for 24 hours a day, nice comparison
#653398 by stoneman
18 Jul 2007, 19:23
Originally posted by McCoy
There's proper evidence now that passive smoking causes a much higher risk of getting cancers - and not just lung cancer. Several publications in the BMJ and NEJM, if you search for them. It's no longer disputed.

If someone walked into a pub and started emptying cans of benzene everywhere, and pumping carbon monoxide out of containers, it would of course be considered highly inappropriate and illegal. Probably quite reasonable that smoking has been stopped in public places.

Oh yeah, thats right, they test it by making monkeys stay within 10ft. of a smoking machine for 24 hours a day, nice comparison
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