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#722284 by Scrooge
05 Aug 2009, 18:25
I'm not really happy with the title to be honest, it's not really an airbus accident, it's an engine accident.
#722285 by slinky09
05 Aug 2009, 18:25
I don't mean to poo poo you NH, but the media is reporting a scratch on an Airbus plane at the moment ... apparently a small fire, engine on scene within minutes, unfortunately some people suffer injuries during an evacuation ... i.e. next!
#722344 by woggledog
06 Aug 2009, 12:26
quote:Originally posted by Scrooge
I'm not really happy with the title to be honest, it's not really an airbus accident, it's an engine accident.


Just reading 'Airframe' again by micheal crighton and couldn't agree more with this comment!
#722347 by DarkAuror
06 Aug 2009, 12:35
quote:Originally posted by woggledog
quote:Originally posted by Scrooge
I'm not really happy with the title to be honest, it's not really an airbus accident, it's an engine accident.


Just reading 'Airframe' again by micheal crighton and couldn't agree more with this comment!


Just finished reading it and although it's a novel, it has given me a better understanding on aircraft incidents.
#722383 by Scrooge
06 Aug 2009, 21:34
Thats the name of it !

I was trying to remember it but was drawing a blank,it really does go into how even though an engine can let go, the airframe supplier is the one that gets the finger pointed at them, now for whatever reason, I am thinking Norton was based on McDonald Douglas. It is a good book and pretty accurate as well.

I am wondering what time of the day this happened at ? There are some engines that are well known (V2500) to collect moisture with fuel trapped in it in the combustion area, so you end up with a nice long flame and a bit of smoke during the first start of the day. Something tells this is not what happened in this case.
#722388 by mcmbenjamin
06 Aug 2009, 23:04
Yep. but 'Engine fire forces Vueling A320 evacuation during pushback' is not interesting... oh wait that is a headline by flightglobal.com

This is not a story. There were eight minor injuries.

Ramp workers break bones, cut off finger, etc daily; where is the news story? No where as it does not generate clicks that generate ad revenue or sell newspapers :)
#722389 by Bill S
06 Aug 2009, 23:28
quote:Originally posted by Scrooge

I am wondering what time of the day this happened at ? There are some engines that are well known (V2500) to collect moisture with fuel trapped in it in the combustion area, so you end up with a nice long flame and a bit of smoke during the first start of the day. Something tells this is not what happened in this case.

Tailpipe fire.
Engine just returned from service.
#722391 by Scrooge
06 Aug 2009, 23:47
There you go then, really you have to ask yourself, are we getting a bit jumpy at times ? or are people simply not used to seeing things like smokey engines.

Mrs Scrooge nearly had a heart attack a few years ago when a 752 did exactly this to us at LAS, I looked over, said give it a second and it cleared away, now I am wondering if someone who didn't know that the RB211 will smoke and spit flames first thing in the morning would of freaked out and be hitting the exits before anyone could stop them ?
#722398 by Bill S
07 Aug 2009, 10:19
A jet engine is simply a fuel burner - it is supposed to run hot - very hot.
The problem comes when if it is not burning hot enough - then you can get visible flames and smoke!

In this case there may have been a loose joint following engine service, that allowed a small amount fuel/oil to escape or maybe it wasn't fully cleaned off. Small, relatively cold fire, where it normally burns very hot but too many people freak out....That's how people can get injured - Panic during evac.

Probably not helped by language difficulties.
News report (in French)
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