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#770527 by northernhenry
09 Mar 2011, 16:13
Before they dissappear just note the links from the above are ALL SPAM
Last edited by northernhenry on 10 Mar 2011, 12:04, edited 1 time in total.
#770528 by Neil
09 Mar 2011, 16:14
Yep I am on it, thanks.

Usually it has just been one spam post by each user, but they really went to town with 5!

All now removed off the site.
#770529 by northernhenry
09 Mar 2011, 16:17
No worries, you can delete this afterwards as well..
maybe an option to use this format if we spot any others

obviously wanting to warn people before they click on some dubious links
#770530 by Neil
09 Mar 2011, 16:19
If you can just keep using the report button it highlights it for the mods, which means we can get them removed straight off the site.

We are trying really hard to stop them before they post, but it isn't always possible as they are posting within minutes of joining.

Thanks,
Neil
#770531 by Nottingham Nick
09 Mar 2011, 16:22
We really are being plagued at the moment - some new posts, some adding comments to old threads. I think in the past three days, we have deleted over 30 accounts. n(

As soon as any mod sees one, or sees a report by a member, they are gone.

I really can't understand what the people / bots who take the time to register with the site, then post random, poorly written, ads for things no one wants hope to achieve.

The vain hope is that they will realise that any posts are swiftly deleted, and take V-Flyer off their list of attackable forums! v(


Nick
#770532 by HWVlover
09 Mar 2011, 16:25
Nick, it is just another form of vandalism. Anyway, congrats because you guys are dealing with it very promptly y)
#770534 by Luke085
09 Mar 2011, 16:33
I've been reporting them when I see them too.

Thanks Mods for being so swift at getting rid of them.

We're using a Re-Captcha so these people are physically doing it as opposed to a spam bot! It's just frustrating that there are people out there that do this!
#770535 by HWVlover
09 Mar 2011, 16:35
enyce085 wrote:We're using a Re-Captcha so these people are physically doing it as opposed to a spam bot!


I was going to say that. ):
#770537 by Luke085
09 Mar 2011, 16:43
HWVlover wrote:
enyce085 wrote:We're using a Re-Captcha so these people are physically doing it as opposed to a spam bot!


I was going to say that. ):


:P :P :P
#770540 by tontybear
09 Mar 2011, 17:26
enyce085 wrote:I've been reporting them when I see them too.

Thanks Mods for being so swift at getting rid of them.

We're using a Re-Captcha so these people are physically doing it as opposed to a spam bot! It's just frustrating that there are people out there that do this!


Ditto and usually posting a response of 'SPAM'
#770542 by Concorde RIP
09 Mar 2011, 17:46
Went to report those posts earlier but someone had already done it - so congrats to whomever that was that will keep this site clean.

Thaks to the mods for swift action.
#770543 by Darren Wheeler
09 Mar 2011, 18:02
By the end of this, I think we'll all need new mice with the amount of clicking.

I would add, please continue to report spam posts but don't reply to them, even with "Spam" as that just shows a response and encourages them.
#770561 by northernhenry
09 Mar 2011, 19:44
how about a delay in being able to post/ comment after joining..
or needs moderation before publishing for a while??

Not sure how/ what work load this could create..

many will probably give up and try elsewhere..
#770563 by Darren Wheeler
09 Mar 2011, 19:56
northernhenry wrote:how about a delay in being able to post/ comment after joining..
or needs moderation before publishing for a while??

Not sure how/ what work load this could create..

many will probably give up and try elsewhere..


That is currently being discussed by the Mods as I post this... :)
#770566 by slinky09
09 Mar 2011, 20:10
Darren Wheeler wrote:That is currently being discussed by the Mods as I post this... :)


I hope we don't do that. OK spam is a threat, but people post in real time and this could create nightmarish circular conversations.

Also, I think the whole moderation thing is so last century.
#770568 by northernhenry
09 Mar 2011, 20:16
slinky09 wrote:
Darren Wheeler wrote:That is currently being discussed by the Mods as I post this... :)


I hope we don't do that. OK spam is a threat, but people post in real time and this could create nightmarish circular conversations.

Also, I think the whole moderation thing is so last century.


My suggestion was only for immediate new joiners, say a week, or few days (like a delay before full acceptance), to do this for all etc I agree would be a nightmare..
#770573 by Neil
09 Mar 2011, 20:29
We are just looking at a few options, nothing has been decided.

The number and frequency of spam sign ups has been immense, especially in the last few days. Whilst we are very hopeful they will stop, we might have to do something however if they don't, as not only is it potentially bad for the site and our users, but it becoming very time consuming removing spam posts and blocking the user accounts.
#770580 by Luke085
09 Mar 2011, 21:21
My advice would be:

1. Email verification for new users (I don't remember having to do this for VF? Basically the standard, user completes registration form, then submits, email received, link in email activates account.

2. As NH has suggested - perhaps 24 hour wait before new users can post?

Point 1 will probably have the greatest impact in preventing this happening as the spammers will give up with the hassle of having to email verify - potentially meaning there would be no need for point 2.

Point 1 is clearly a development piece, but only needs to be completed once - it's automated after that so no additional mod time.

Point 2 - again potentially easy, could be automated to simply apply a rule of "Sign up time + 24 hours = ability to post".

Luke
#770588 by tontybear
09 Mar 2011, 21:50
The BBC Points of View Board pre mods all posts by new users for a short period of time. However this also causes problems (and complaints usually about 'censorship').

These boards are also moderated by users and there is a 'red triangle' that another user can report a post for breaking the house rules, the thread remains but the post is immediatly replaced with a message that the post has been reported and looked at and the title as 'hidden'. If cleared by a mod the post is restored.

However these boards don't get the spam that we have been getting though it is suspected that certain 'newspapers' sometime creats a post to try and generate a controversy and anti BBC feeling.

People who post on the 'Have your Say' and the editors Blogs are either pre moderated or reactivly moderated. The post shows in thw thread but with the words (para phrased) 'this post is awaiting moderation'. For some of the more specialist blogs you can be pre cleared and your posts appear instantly.

However, BBC runs a lot more threads and has a lot more posters and has a (small) staff to look after it all.!

I also think it uses a response email in the registration process.
#770590 by Scrooge
09 Mar 2011, 21:53
Something I have done on another forum is that new members must have their first five posts approved my a mod, this of course stops the spam dead in it's tracks...Unless the mod accidentally okays one ii)
#770591 by tontybear
09 Mar 2011, 21:58
Scrooge wrote:Something I have done on another forum is that new members must have their first five posts approved my a mod, this of course stops the spam dead in it's tracks...Unless the mod accidentally okays one ii)


Well the odd G&T induced mistake will always happen!

As long as the new member is made aware of this then I can't see any objection. Its what I had to go through with the BBC process.
#770595 by honey lamb
09 Mar 2011, 22:13
tontybear wrote:Well the odd G&T induced mistake will always happen!

v( v( v(
#770600 by honey lamb
09 Mar 2011, 22:29
northernhenry wrote:As we speak another arrives
the-community/my-profile/7745-cialissoubrodypsuby

And gets removed :D
#770601 by RedVee
09 Mar 2011, 22:30
Bit like swatting flies, only your aim is better!

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R3dV
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