Aeromobile: Launched today onboard Beauty Queen

For safety reasons I am not recommending these but if VS insist upon advertising cell phone contact they will attract retribution.

You used to be able to buy those jammers off ebay, but they are quite hard to get now and can attract a huge fine for importing them into the uk. Sad, really, they are very useful especially in a quiet zone of a train...

But I doubt airport security would let you through with one. Then again, I found a half full bottle of after sun in the bottom of my bag last flight, having been through two bag checks...

Very rarely does anyone use the current on-board phones even though every seat has one on V-Port and Odyssey so I doubt people will use this new function. As previously stated, a lot of people like being uncontactable while they fly.

As previously stated, a lot of people like being uncontactable while they fly.

Indeed.

What can someone do on a flight anyway if there is a major issue with their business on the ground?

Very few people in thw world NEED to be in 24 hour contact with their offices. They might WANT to be in contact but that's a totally different issue.

Most US flights spend more than half thine flight time over or within 250 miles of the US.
So at least we can enjoy half the flight duration without loud mouths shouting into their phone.

[buns]

For safety reasons I am not recommending these but if VS insist upon advertising cell phone contact they will attract retribution.

Very tempting for that morning commute ): ):

Unfortunately, I suspect that flights to Las Vegas will attract the most use of on board phones - you can imagine the stag / hen party participants wanting to show off to thier friends v(

buns

For safety reasons I am not recommending these but if VS insist upon advertising cell phone contact they will attract retribution.

You used to be able to buy those jammers off ebay, but they are quite hard to get now and can attract a huge fine for importing them into the uk. Sad, really, they are very useful especially in a quiet zone of a train...

But I doubt airport security would let you through with one. Then again, I found a half full bottle of after sun in the bottom of my bag last flight, having been through two bag checks...

Would airport security even be able to recognise one? And yes - regularly find various bottles of liquids after security - yet to have one found ....

Not too difficult to find thisor this source for jammers.
The high fine is for use in the US - mainly as they also have been used to block law-enforcement and security communication usually with high powered devices - and even they are difficult to find without multiple directional receivers.

Would airport security even be able to recognise one? And yes - regularly find various bottles of liquids after security - yet to have one found ....

I was more thinking, 'what is this strange electronic device you have in your hand luggage'. I'd have thought custom electronic devices would be 'frowned upon' like custom electronic shoes

Not too difficult to find thisor this source for jammers.
The high fine is for use in the US - mainly as they also have been used to block law-enforcement and security communication usually with high powered devices - and even they are difficult to find without multiple directional receivers.

Thanks for the uk site, I missed that when I last looked for one. The uk one doesn't send them from within the uk, it sends from china, and you take the risk of the discovery and potential fine. How likely that is, I'm not sure... I've heard people use the $10 marked as gift thing for some things, but I suspect that can be hit and miss...

As for the legality:

"The use of any apparatus, whether or not wireless telegraphy apparatus, for the purpose of interfering with any wireless telegraphy, is an offence under the Wireless Telegraphy Act 2006. It is an indictable offence that on conviction in Crown Court carries a maximum penalty of two years imprisonment and/or an unlimited fine. The courts can also order forfeit of any apparatus used in the commission of the offence."

That law has been enforced on sellers in the uk.

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/enforc ... t/jammers/

If people are frowned upon using a mobile phone due to interference with the aircraft systems, then a jammer must surely be even worse?

I've been on flights before and found AM useful for texts but found the call quality unacceptable - laggy and patchy at best. Until VS gets a 380 then I can't see it being an issue, hearing past a few rows is impossible with other noise. Rather like the IFE phones, they are a novelty at best and more useful for shorthaul.

[Darren Wheeler]

I would suggest carrying any kind of jammer at an airport is likely to result in a extended stay at Paddington Green Police Station...

Just wondering if anyone has flown on a flight where Aeromobile has also been offered? According to Wikipedia, there are a few airlines using it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AeroMobile

Yes, flown with Emirates before and they have it on their newer planes. Never seen anyone use it and IMO it's so expensive and because from the UK only O2 pay monthly customers can possibly use it, I think it's unlikely it will cause any problems!

[buns]

Waiting to board the 330 back to Gatwick. I can promise you all that I will not be phoning through mt TR

buns

Waiting to board the 330 back to Gatwick. I can promise you all that I will not be phoning through mt TR

buns

Spoilsport

Have a good flight home y)

That is the WORST news I've ever heard from VS

I completely agree. I will attempt to avoid at all costs. If that means switching carrier, then so be it.

What are you talking about switching carrier? just don't switch on your phone!

You lot are like a bunch of old grannies complaining about nothing. The services on a flight are not designed around you personally. I welcome this, it will give me a CHOICE to use my mobile or NOT.
And anyway, sitting next to someone speaking into their phone is no different than sitting next to two people talking to one another.
If someone is being loud on their phone then ask them to be quieter if it bothers you that much but I think most people will be considerate.

[preiffer]

What are you talking about switching carrier? just don't switch on your phone!

You lot are like a bunch of old grannies complaining about nothing. The services on a flight are not designed around you personally. I welcome this, it will give me a CHOICE to use my mobile or NOT.
And anyway, sitting next to someone speaking into their phone is no different than sitting next to two people talking to one another.
If someone is being loud on their phone then ask them to be quieter if it bothers you that much but I think most people will be considerate.

Can't wait to see your post after you've been woken up in the middle of the night on a plane (where it's hard enough to sleep in the first place)...

...by someone's custom ringtone, followed by the verbal self-importance which undoubtedly follows.

Welcome to the site, "traveller4171", by the way. Handy hint for a first post - while EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion (including you), calling many of those who have been valuable contributors to v-flyer over the years "old grannies" is probably not going to score you many points.

What are you talking about switching carrier? just don't switch on your phone!

You lot are like a bunch of old grannies complaining about nothing. The services on a flight are not designed around you personally. I welcome this, it will give me a CHOICE to use my mobile or NOT.
And anyway, sitting next to someone speaking into their phone is no different than sitting next to two people talking to one another.
If someone is being loud on their phone then ask them to be quieter if it bothers you that much but I think most people will be considerate.

Given this is your first post here you might wish to review the tone .This is v-flyer , not FT .
DL

That is the WORST news I've ever heard from VS

I completely agree. I will attempt to avoid at all costs. If that means switching carrier, then so be it.

What are you talking about switching carrier? just don't switch on your phone!

You lot are like a bunch of old grannies complaining about nothing. The services on a flight are not designed around you personally. I welcome this, it will give me a CHOICE to use my mobile or NOT.
And anyway, sitting next to someone speaking into their phone is no different than sitting next to two people talking to one another.
If someone is being loud on their phone then ask them to be quieter if it bothers you that much but I think most people will be considerate.

But people won't be just talking normally will they? They will most likely be SHOUTING as the aircraft will noisy and the person they are talking to will be unable to hear them.

Bad does not begin to describe. LEt's not beat about the bush, there are too many retards that cannot understand you do not need to SHOUT into a mobile and now they will do it on a plane.

[preiffer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RMI_iSW9L8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCgYDsuR2xs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCgYDsuR2xs

The prosecution rests!

I'M ON A FLIGHT!
... NO... A FLIGHT!
WHAT? NO, I'M ON A FLIGHT!
I'M ON AN AEROPLANE!
YES! A PLANE!
WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU?
NO... NO.. I'M ON A FLIGHT!

A friend of mine was on a train and there was a particularly obnoxious 'person' shouting into his phone. However he made the mistake of shouting out his name and mobile number on one of his calls

So my friend texts the name and number to another friend with some 'instructions'

Friends friend then telephones said man who starts shouting into the phone and then suddenly ends the call and says nothing for the rest of the trip.

My friends friend had phoned the chap and having asked his name told him that he was from the 'monitoring centre' and they had picked up on his lound voice and that if he didn't want to be met by police at the next station that 'he should shut the f*** up instantly'

[preiffer]

Hmmm - I wonder what the reporting manager for Aeromobile would say.

Oh, wait, I think we know that now...

[honey lamb]

What are you talking about switching carrier? just don't switch on your phone!

You lot are like a bunch of old grannies complaining about nothing. The services on a flight are not designed around you personally. I welcome this, it will give me a CHOICE to use my mobile or NOT.
And anyway, sitting next to someone speaking into their phone is no different than sitting next to two people talking to one another.
If someone is being loud on their phone then ask them to be quieter if it bothers you that much but I think most people will be considerate.

Well as the official old granny on the site I rather think that your remarks are a tad ill-judged (and I'm being kind here since it is your first post). No, the services are not designed around me personally nor are they designed around everyone who shouts on a mobile phone. Before the introduction of mobile phones the widely acknowledged courtesy was that if you were in someone's home and the phone rang, you would vacate the room while they were on the phone. There was absolutely no way that you would be present when someone was talking on the phone. Equally people receiving phone calls would routinely defer calls if there were visitors present unless it was absolutely essential as a courtesy. Nowadays it is so commonplace for people to indulge in personal conversations in the middle of the supermarket, a bus and, God forbid, a plane. And then there's the "I'm on the plane" conversation! Puhlease!

The other thing to consider is how many calls are so urgent that they simply cannot wait? I was a manager of a service where serious decisions had to be made quickly. Pre-mobile phones people made decisions made in good faith if I could not be contacted and they were generally upheld. Nowadays people are afraid to make the most basic decisions without checking in and it's not through fear of litigation.

A third scenario is to be considered. Two of my cousins some years ago were flying to the US to see their terminally ill brother. He died while they were on the flight. What good would it have done them to know mid-Atlantic that their brother was dead? Far better to wait till they had arrived

[preiffer]

So....
Everyone on here so far has posted as genuinely independent passengers - apart from one, who "welcome[s] this, it will give me a CHOICE to use my mobile or NOT".

Sadly, that one individual works for Aeromobile - and rather than posting as such, has taken on the fake persona of a regular passenger. Honey Lamb, don't waste the key presses.


BAD show, Aeromobile.


(Thanks to the person who flagged this)

[honey lamb]

So....
Everyone on here so far has posted as genuinely independent passengers - apart from one, who "welcome[s] this, it will give me a CHOICE to use my mobile or NOT".

Sadly, that one individual works for Aeromobile - and rather than posting as such, has taken on the fake persona of a regular passenger. Honey Lamb, don't waste the key presses.


BAD show, Aeromobile.

I know! So much time and so many key presses but I had to speak up for the old grannies of the world even though I'm not a granny (unless there's something Aer John hasn't told me ) )

I'm afraid I was typing this while you were outing the poster but well done the Sherlock Holmes of VF. You know who you are. y)

[preiffer]

It's OK Honey Lamb - we've just witnessed the provider of Virgin Atlantic's in-flight telecoms services calling their customers "a bunch of old grannies".

Gerald Ratner would be proud... (Having had dinner with him, I know that to be the case!)