Alcohol ban VS43

I can certainly understand where vs are coming from here, but they have to ensure the crew DO the additional drinks rounds. It's poor enough as it is, last time to Vegas was in Y and there was only two drinks rounds in ten hours, no wonder people go to the Galley for additional drinks.

On the BGI route, wasn't there a high profile 'incident' not long ago? Fighting in the cabin?

Someone on FB Virgin site said they will chill my DP if I buy one for my flight, is this true? Dont want to waste £99 on a hot one.

Never flown to Vegas with BA, but in my expereience never had a problem with getting a drink with them -maybe it is just the Vegas flight.

It all depends on how it is handled -I like a drink as much as the other person, but when flying restraint is needed and people need to realise this. We had 1 incident on BA when flying to LAX - the CC came and spoke to me and my colleague reminding us that although not a problem to them, we were arriving in the USA shortly and they have a different approach to drinking - fair enough we had partaken in a few beverages (not a silly amount but maybe 5 or 6) and it was a polite way of reminding us we had been drinking. She didn't refuse to serve us anymore, but it was a nice gentle reminder to show they did monitor the consumption - she dind't refuse to serve us another drink as she said it was obvious we were not being silly but just a gentle prod to make us think.

Well handled and effective. Maybe not so easy with a Stag or Hen party !

Since when were drinks 'free', these aren't cheap tickets!

If you buy a bottle of champagne onboard will the cc open it for you?

[mitchja]

Yes, champagne is the only on-board purchased alcohol you can drink on board. It has to be purchased on-board though.

If you buy a bottle of champagne onboard will the cc open it for you?

I got a bottle on pre order and she ( CC ) said there was plenty of cold ones at the bar and it would be a waste to open my warm one. I think I ended up leaving it for room service at the hotel.

If I can buy a cold DP though I will and as I am travelling solo might share.

Ha ha ha ha this thread has made me chuckle, esp caspaton's story about the pilot wobbling the plane.... ) )

Come on people, this is the flight to Vegas... holiday goers are going to be wanting to start the party as soon as they can. If VS see it as a necessary thing to control alcohol intake.. fair play to them. If they kept the liquor flowing freely then their planes would look like most London streets on a Saturday night... only thing missing would be a Maccy-D stand setup next to the toilets. ii)

Whilst I agree it is not 'fair' to differ the human rights treatment of the Y pax from the others, it is not like they are strapping people to their seats and rationing out one cup of water and a slice of moldy bread as the new 'improved' economy meal. :w

The PE and UC cabins are smaller and with a greater crew presence easier to manage.. Also, people in these cabins do pay a premium so should they not receive a more enhanced service (or more alcohol?!?) ): ):

I can see those that want to drink taking their own on board and risking the crew not finding out.

Sounds like a teenage 'the parents are away so lets get smashed' house party.

All im saying is that if certain people like to drink that much they will find a way of taking their own.
People smuggle drinks n food into cinemas all the time when its banned, I could easily imagine a Stag or Hen party doing that on a flight withought thinking of the consequences.

What would happen if a Stag or Hen party were in upper or PE?
God forbid they afford the fare and upset the important people.

The one thing about this forum i hate is the snobbery here.
Why do most posters asume that economy travellers are all rowdy pi##ed up chavs?

Upper class look down on PE and PE look down on Economy.

Its actually quite "snobby" to assume everyone in UC are in fact snobby. I travel UCS I does my job I pay my money and sit in my suite without making a single "assumtion" about the demographics of the other cabins. I get so fed fed up of do gooders making judgements based upon their own assumptions and not facts or indeed who they themselves are generalising about.

The one thing about this forum i hate is the snobbery here.

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Definitely not the case. I have always found this forum to be anything but snobbish.

As someone who frequents all three cabins, depending on what I can afford, I always find myself looking up aspiring to that next level of service offered. And yes when seated in UC I look towards the captain's chair

The crew will stop serving PAX in PE and UC if they feel the need to. Also with far less passengers in UC and PE there is statistically less chance of having that "small minority" being present in the cabin. No snobbery about it.

I fly in all three and I think I'm far from a snob... I found it funny that (as per my story above) they let us continue in UC... But then, Y can attract more of the "laddy" stag dos, that's just the nature of the cheapest fare...

Christ, I fly UC a lot, but my stag do was Ryan Air to Latvia, so to be fair, the guys in Y on the Vegas flights probably look down on me

Goddam chavs.

Sorry Baza, I am sensitive after years of gang bashing on another holiday site because I like UCS. When the majority assume your a snob because your in a minority it gets my goat. I never thought you were against UCS pax?

[Neil]

Please keep this thread about the alcohol service or restrictions on the LAS flights and notturn it in to an perceived snobbery or lack of from Premium pax, it will never end well and the main topic is quite an interesting one for discussion.

Wobble, Wobble, Wobble.

Please keep this thread about the alcohol service or restrictions on the LAS flights and notturn it in to an perceived snobbery or lack of from Premium pax, it will never end well and the main topic is quite an interesting one for discussion.

Apologies.

Actually if it became the norm to have extended bar service in the PE and UC section that might be an incentive to give those cabins a shot. Though also an excuse for a price hike.

Still awaiting the nod about chilling pre-orders, that would be an earner.

Extended bar service? There is in UC though? What do you mean by extended?

The amount of times I've just been able to make my own drinks in UC without being monitored at all, is unreal...

NY flights not so bad, but Vegas, I barely remeber half of the Vegas flights!

Cancun in October, looking forward to UC, hope we get refit, and new salt shakers, and will see how the bar goes on that flight

I meant extended comparison to a newly curtailed service in Y.

Sorry, gotcha!

Well I think this only applies to paticular flights, and not Vegas as standard. I've only seen it happen once, as I explained, and I've flown in both Y and PE with no problems at all previously - so it's a case of "One person ruins it for everyone" I assume.

I also assume it would happen in UC too, if that one person was there - only difference being that if they stopped serving UC, I think the people who paid for UC (the ones that drink or are going on holiday) would be extremely angered by the fact that they could have downgraded and been served - so they may have to stop the whole plane? I dunno, thinking outloud !

[buns]

I am another one in support of the VS stance y) y)

How many times have we read on the pages of V-Flyer how the issue of excessive alcohol consumption on the Vegas flights has caused distress to other passengers??

As I have said on previous occasions, my great sympathy lay with the Crew who have to handle a somewhat difficult and sometimes tense situation - exacerbated by being 35,000 feet in the air.

VS and their long suffering Crew are dammed if they do and dammed if they don't. To be honest, if folks feel that strongly about it then take another airline.

I agree it is the minority spoiling the situation, but unfortunately none of us carry a sign when we board the aircraft as to how we are going to react - irrespective of cabin - unless someone is that bladdered before a flight and how many times have we seen that portrayed on "Airline" TV programmes !

buns

A few points.

Firstly I blame Prince Harry.

Secondly I think if they are to remove alcohol they should do it for everyone regardless of the fare code etc.

Thirdly I think they're wrong to take alcohol away on the flights, I think they should be arresting anyone that is rowdy when it lands and making it much more clear that this will be the consequence if it happens i.e. by announcements at the start if this doesnt already occur.

Sorry, gotcha!

Well I think this only applies to paticular flights, and not Vegas as standard. I've only seen it happen once, as I explained, and I've flown in both Y and PE with no problems at all previously - so it's a case of "One person ruins it for everyone" I assume.

I also assume it would happen in UC too, if that one person was there - only difference being that if they stopped serving UC, I think the people who paid for UC (the ones that drink or are going on holiday) would be extremely angered by the fact that they could have downgraded and been served - so they may have to stop the whole plane? I dunno, thinking outloud !

Exactly, If a pax in UC gets drunk would it be fair to not serve any alcohol to those that are clearly not drunk or out of control. How would the rest of the UC pax react?

How about Virgin sit all the groups of economy pax upstairs in the bubble? (on refurbs)
That way the whole of downstairs would be quiet.

How about Virgin sit all the groups of economy pax upstairs in the bubble? (on refurbs)
That way the whole of downstairs would be quiet.

May be just the ones with chips on their shoulders.

They would have to stop the fine wines spiel advertising the UCS product if they were going to deprive 13 pax of it for the sake of one other. Or may be add a disclaimer "this service may be removed or curtailed if any other passenger is a ****artist in your chosen cabin"