New aircraft

Originally posted by milehigh

Originally posted by slinky09
That could mean the seats are wider, isn't that a good thing?

Not that I'd ever know [:p]

the seats are a little wider, Yes it is a goodthing unless you are a customer who puts their feet in the aisle!

Or in the aisle seat getting a whack each time a slightly wider than average passenger goes past...

Originally posted by milehigh

Originally posted by slinky09
That could mean the seats are wider, isn't that a good thing?

Not that I'd ever know [:p]

the seats are a little wider, Yes it is a goodthing unless you are a customer who puts their feet in the aisle!

Of course I wouldn't need to put them in the aisle if there was a bit more legroom...

[mitchja]

Originally posted by VS-EWR

Originally posted by milehigh

Originally posted by slinky09
That could mean the seats are wider, isn't that a good thing?

Not that I'd ever know [:p]

the seats are a little wider, Yes it is a goodthing unless you are a customer who puts their feet in the aisle!

Of course I wouldn't need to put them in the aisle if there was a bit more legroom...

Here here

Regards

Although you have my total support in remarking on the poor leg room I am not sure Milehigh can do much about VS's Y policy;):)

BTW, why is the term mile high used when aircraft fly at about, say' 35k feet and a mile is 5280 feet? Should it not be 7 miles high? To join the club do you have to get all your qualifying activity in during approach?

Recent story from VS is that the A380 unlikely to appear in VS livery & that, although dissatisfied with many aspects of the A346, they are stuck with them for the forseeable future with the possibility of A330's!!!

[Scrooge]

Originally posted by Denzil
Recent story from VS is that the A380 unlikely to appear in VS livery & that, although dissatisfied with many aspects of the A346, they are stuck with them for the forseeable future with the possibility of A330's!!!

Source for this is?

What do you want his name & phone number???

Originally posted by Denzil
What do you want his name & phone number???

Yes, please! [B)]

I think we're all a little skeptical of the rumors circulating unless they have a pretty reliable source. It's not that we doubt you or your source (actually [:?], maybe we do...anyway..), the fact is, with an issue as big as aircraft, I think we'd all like a solid source for information, such as Airbus or Virgin Atlantic.

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Sorry but Ben is right,I don't mean any disrespect by asking for the source,just wondering if I missed something?

If it's from someone internal then np.

Of the first 44 A380 to be delivered VS have 0 allocated. A few months ago MSN 10 was listed as reallocated from SQ to VS with the reg G-VXXL, this is now listed as an SQ aircraft with the reg 9V-SKE. All the aircraft used as test beds are allocated to Etihad.

As for the A346, VS have 8 more to be delivered, hence stuck with them for the near future. The best hope would be if Boeing did the same deal as they did with SQ, they bought all their A343's (even those not yet built) for SQ to take the B777.

As for the size of the issue it's common practise to play Boeing & Airbus off against other on price, at the moment it's the A346 that the give away (as reported by FI recently) as Airbus realise the B777-300ER is more cost efficient.

[preiffer]

While I DO hate to say I told you so... [:w]

OK here's a wager, all of you offer me odds ...

(1) VS will not take the 380
(2) VS will order 777s or possibly 787s in the future and even more unopportunistically the 747-8
(3) the announcement will happen in the next 12-15 months

... odds may be accepted ... let's not forget this is a commercial business not one that is beholden to brand Virgin or any other soppiness about red cushions, flowers, GNF, wonderful overnight snooze bags or otherwise. The management will risk disapprobrium along the way form the likes of us, but not care a hoot 'cos the number will be good.

And we'll stil fly VS!

Except for Item 3 (more likely some VS PR at Farnborough), i'd say your moneys safe!!!!!

Actually I am a total fan of the 777 and I'd love to be in a suite on one ... it's a great aircraf.

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Originally posted by slinky09
Actually I am a total fan of the 777 and I'd love to be in a suite on one ... it's a great aircraf.

Couldn't agree more,the only problem is a lot of airline's are now fans of the 777.

Paul,you were right,it was strang to see the 380 at LHR and SRB nowhere in sight.

Denzil,you make a lot of good point's,would VS consider being the launch airline for the 748?

Originally posted by slinky09
OK here's a wager, all of you offer me odds ...

(1) VS will not take the 380
(2) VS will order 777s or possibly 787s in the future and even more unopportunistically the 747-8
(3) the announcement will happen in the next 12-15 months

(1) - I now think this is a very likely possibility, with all the delays I would not be surprised if VS were not alone in considering cancelling their orders.

(2) - If Boeing offer a sweet enough deal, especially when they think that they are stealing Airbus' thunder because of the problems with the A380 program.

(3) - I would think that an announcement at the Farnborough air show would be a possibility. A British company announcing an order at Britains premier air show would make for very good PR imho. Plus I thought I read somewhere (cant remember where though) that VS were going to make an announcement within the next few weeks about the A380, and Farnborough is only 4 weeks away.

I think we are all watching this one with interest.

1) The VS orders are history, Etihad has already taken many of the delivery slots.
2) With the current climate between Airbus & Boeing, do Boeing need to do a deal??
3) I think EK are going to be making the big buck orders at Farnborough. Unless VS are the anonymous customer for B777's!!!!

VS ordering 12 A330's is a rumour gathering momentum within VS & that some of the A346's (yet to be delivered) will be heading down to Oz.

Originally posted by Denzil
VS ordering 12 A330's is a rumour gathering momentum within VS & that some of the A346's (yet to be delivered) will be heading down to Oz.

Like you say all rumour's;)

I can't believe for one moment that Virgin would place a huge order for new aircraft to cope with expansion and then send them down to OZ to be used on routes for an airline that hasn't even started yet. Would Virgin Blue just simply not place an order for new aircraft like they have just done in recent weeks?

Here's a picture of VS's next A346!

looks like a lick of paint, and she'll be ready

Hm, the old tail logo is still on there..

Originally posted by djuluvmee
I can't believe for one moment that Virgin would place a huge order for new aircraft to cope with expansion and then send them down to OZ to be used on routes for an airline that hasn't even started yet. Would Virgin Blue just simply not place an order for new aircraft like they have just done in recent weeks?

But what if Virgin Blue got the rights to fly SYD-LAX? Wouldn't that be a cool thing for the global business, RtW on Virgin?

Yes RTW on VS would be good. I had to go QF from MEL to LAX and would much have preferred VS.

I did VS LHR-SYD then QF SYD to MEL then QF MEL to LAX then UA LAX to LAS then VS LAS to LGW. Quite a trip really but not very single airline friendly.

It's not just a matter of buying aircraft it's operating experience, the A346 would be a good (non ETOPS) option for Virgin Pacific (or whatever the name is going to be) to start long haul ops. Initially crew could come from VS, like Virgin Nigeria. The coming weeks will tell all.