B&S delayed by over cautious pax?

Link here

A difficult balance. Great that people were keeping their eye's open, but was it all an over-reaction?

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[Neil]

Interesting story, I think it highly unfair that this action was taken by the pax, just because somebody is Asian looking does not make them a terorist, but unfortunately due to the way some of our "press" report certain incidents people are mis-informed and have incorrect prejudices, I can only see incidents like this becoming more frequent[V]

Neil:)

Oh no - Asian-looking men talking in Arabic? [:0]
How dare they - don't they know they must speak in English only?
Wearing jumpers & jackets in pre-dawn "heat" when they're on their way back to Manchester?

They must be terrorists [ii][ii]

Cheers

Michael

This was featured in todays paper. A lot of people are suspcious now and like what Neil said, its only gonna happen more and more often. Hopefully it will never affect any flights I'm gonna be on.

This is not reasurring me at all because I'm flying into Malaga next February.

Im afraid this is just human nature kicking in isnt it - if all the potential terrorists were women in white dresses then any woman in a white dress would attract some level of curiousity, suspicion or worry!!

I heard a leader of one of the muslim organisations on the radio today saying that British Muslims would have to be aware that they were likely to be "watched" by other passengers in the next few months and that it was just one of the unfortunate efects of the terrorist activity.

And I dont think there's any answer to this other than not to victimise anyone and be observant to anything suspicious when travelling - regardless of the colour or "look" of the person involved.

[Darren Wheeler]

I found it quite frightning that sheer passenger-power got the 2 unfortunate passengers removed. Reading the reports it was because "our children were getting distressed by them"

Usually children totally ignore such things, unless of course the parents have been 'educating' them [:(]

Sorry, but if it was down to me I'd have allowed the 2 to continue after all the passengers and their luggage had been off-loaded.

Originally posted by Darren Wheeler

Sorry, but if it was down to me I'd have allowed the 2 to continue after all the passengers and their luggage had been off-loaded.

Well it was a bit stupid that these poor guys got offloaded and were then put on a later flight - I agree with you - if some other passengers did not want to fly with these guys then they should have got off!

So what did the passengers on the flight that they actually came home on think?

This is not going to be the last time this happens! (unfortunately)

I find it utterly reprehensible of Monarch and any other airline to concede to ill educated and emotionally challenged action like this - it should be down to the captain surely, if he/she feels safe to go then everyone should also, and if they don't like it they should get off.

There, rant over.

It's a horerndous situation for all concerned - innocent Muslims included but it ain't going to get any better IMHO.

The Captain of this airliner may have actually been thinking about the safety of the two individuals that were denied.

That's what I'm hoping.



Regards

John

This was on the BBC news last night and I think the way the newsreader put it (more or less) was that "suspicions were aroused when passengers thought they heard two men talking in what they thought to be arabic."[:(!]

I read that almost a sixth of the world's population is muslim (not my figures) and people should realise that they're not all terrorists and certainly do not take the pro-violence stance.

VS.

Good old English racism and small-minded-ness at its best!

[Neil]

I only think, as others have said, that this type of occurence is going to get more frequent, not wanting to tar everybody with the same brush but I honestly think its the way the younger generation are educated about things, 2 guys, 18 & 16 at my work were gleaming with joy that this has happened and saying how "mint" it was and that they would demand the same.

I just couldn't even bring myself to discuss the matter with them, i was that angry, sign of the times I think, which is a really sad portrayal of our society and the youth of today.

Neil:)

[preiffer]

...or from another perspective - it's a sad reflection on what the media can sometimes achieve by showing certain imagery and sensationalist opinion to impressionable minds. [ii]

[Neil]

Originally posted by preiffer
...or from another perspective - it's a sad reflection on what the media can sometimes achieve by showing certain imagery and sensationalist opinion to impressionable minds. [ii]

Exactly, and as I said in my 1st post on this topic, it is sad the way certain parts of our media (tabloids especially) report such incidents, and In one paper I read today they even quoted a "gleaming pax" who had been part of the protest to get the 2 guys thrown off, what sort of picture does this give to the, unfortunately, mass amount of people who read it[V]

Neil

The sad truth of it is a society that lives in fear of terrorism is a society that can be made to agree to anything those in power wish to impose on them.

IE: Identity cards [n]

Exit rant mode.......

Jon B

Originally posted by preiffer
...or from another perspective - it's a sad reflection on what the media can sometimes achieve by showing certain imagery and sensationalist opinion to impressionable minds. [ii]

Ah yes the British (tabloid) media - generally "lower than a snakes ass in a wagon rut".

But seriously - very well put Paul.

John

Originally posted by preiffer
...or from another perspective - it's a sad reflection on what the media can sometimes achieve by showing certain imagery and sensationalist opinion to impressionable minds. [ii]

Too right. Well put.