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#250275 by squish
19 Jul 2007, 00:14
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This is my first trip report. So I have a lot to say [:D]

I'd been out in New York for over a month so I was really looking forward to the flight home. I don't think I'd even want to go out there to work for so long if it wasn't for the anticipation of the flights each way. Woe betide any company that reduces costs by not flying their staff out in upper class [:)]

I was picked up in lower manhatten and the limo was waiting on Broadway with a lovely Virgin Atlantic sign on the window with my name in it. I always love that. Makes me feel special. I was particularly impressed because I always think the limos in New York are inferior compared to the London ones, so this was a nice touch. Maybe it's just the way they make you queue for the limo when you get to New York that detracts from the service. I don't know. I think I have to change my mind because the limo was great, I could control the air conditioning temperature from the back, and I had free complimentary bottles of water. I don't think I've ever had that in London.

So having had a perfect journey all my bags are off-loaded and I give the obligatory random tip (I can't cope with tipping in the US, it's far too confusing). I head towards the check-in desk, with my 3 huge bags. Im struggling. I think that I should find a trolley. Theyre all outside. I cant be bothered to go out again its only 10 meters to the check-in desk. I really shouldnt have brought so much, but the exchange rate is so good you just have to cram your suitcases full of cheap clothes. There is someone guarding the entrance of the upper class area, so after struggling with my suitcases I hand over my passport. She searched through a whole bunch of tickets on her podium, and finally declared that I wasnt worthy enough (no ticket I heard myself think as Indiana Jones said after hed thrown his adversary off the blimp) and had to go to the ticket desk. Great, Im going to have to lug my suitcases over there and back. Why didnt I get a trolley? Sigh.

So I queue at the ticket desk, and after handing over my passport Im given my ticket. Why wasnt I special enough to have my ticket already printed out and waiting for me? [:(!]

Having lugged my suitcases back to the upper class check-in everything goes as expected, my bags are tagged as upper class, and Im asked to go and have my bags scanned. So, this isnt the first time Ive been to JFK and this has happened before. BUT WHY?! I continue to struggle with my suitcases and eventually manage to get to the scanning machine queue (or line in the US) and after queuing for 5 minutes to get to the front of the scanning machine, the attendant just tells me to put my bags at the end of the bag line and I can go. What? Im not supposed to wait here and see my bags being scanned? So why did I have to queue up? What is wrong with the belts behind the check-in desks to do this?!?! I just dont get it. I have to queue up in person just to put my bags in another queue?! Huh?

At last, Im freed of my bags and entering the clubhouse. This is the bit Ive been waiting for. Its going to be excellent. And you know what it is excellent. I ask for a gin and tonic and its a great gin and tonic (no Gordons, opted for Bombay). I have the burger, and oh my god what a great burger it is. The food and drink arrive very fast, and the flight is called at the precise time its supposed to be, and all is brilliant.

I'm on my way to security. Its at this point I remember I was supposed to buy some stuff from a pharmacy. There isnt one. Well I couldnt find it. Whos heard of an airport terminal without the equivalent of a Boots? Oh well.

I did very much appreciate the JFK security queue for first class / business class (important people, like me [:P]). I had just arrived in the queue when some of the security people escorted me and a couple of other passengers through the hoi polloi on to another scanning machine. This was great. I went through security in around 5 minutes.

Some people mention occasionally on v-flyer about the lack of a priority line at the gate, but in this case there was a clear line and although neither queue was very long, there was some sense of satisfaction that they had got it right on this flight and that I was able to go and hand my ticket immediately to the staff. Sweet. And there is G-VROC waiting for me! On to the plane!!!

Except thats not quite what happened I go through the gate, down the walkway and turn around a corner to find a massive queue to get on the aircraft. Brilliant. [:(] There should be some way of stopping that from happening. Why would I want to wait in a small corridor for 10 minutes?

10 minutes later Im in the aircraft. K asks if I would like some Champagne. Who wouldnt? A lovely glass of bubbly promptly appears. Moments later, Im given a sleep suit! Nice.

Its at this point that I notice theres something different with my upper class bed controls. They seem to have stuck on some plastic to raise the area around the buttons. This is great news! This must be new (correct me if Im wrong I dont remember this on my outbound flight). No longer will I accidentally change my seat configuration by accident.

I watch the video for a bit. This is the same video they always play when you first get on the aircraft showing various clips of TV shows. Its of an appalling quality. It looks like an analogue recording. Why isnt it digital??

K asks me what I would like to eat. I opt for hot chocolate and macaroon. She tells me its not very big. Im not at all hungry from the burger so this sounds fine to me.

The in-flight therapist, A, gives me the options and the usual speech about not being able to get around to everyone today. I dont worry about it, Im going to go straight to sleep anyway but just in case I opt for the massage. And a first for me, she asks me what my second choice would be. A second choice? She explains its something to do with her needing to do a wide variation during a flight. Nothing seems suitable for a bloke, I think she put me down for filing my nails or something?! [?]

Why is it always so hot before you take off? They boil you alive and then freeze you to death after take off. Someone should explain that to me. [xx(]

Its at this point I look at the sleep suit I was given and notice its a Large. Oh dear dear dear. This is a bad sign. Ive always been a Medium on previous flights. I really shouldnt have had that burger should I! [:?]

A few passengers put on their sleep suits before take off. I always find this completely crazy. Ive read in loads of places that the risky part of any flight is take off and landing. If something goes wrong, do you really want to be wearing a flimsy sleep suit and socks? Ill keep my shoes on, thank you very much.

One of my favourite parts of the flight begins. Its the safety video. Virgin Atlantic has the best one. The best bit is when the cartoon man in the video says Its really important to give this your full attention, even if you are a seasoned traveler, like me!. Its the way he says like me. Amusing. The bits at the end in the credits are fun, but I never get to see what happens after the robot is turned in to a teapot. They always prematurely turn it off. Someone should put the video on-line.

Speaking of the safety video I still dont know how Im supposed to brace in the upper class cabin. I asked one of the staff once, and she said I didnt have to worry because I had an airbag in my seat belt. But seriously, that light sticking out of the wall at my head height is going to put me out of my misery in any crash Im sure of it.

The staff comes around with the basket of goodies. I choose polos and a virgin pen. Those pens are cool. So are polos. I don't know what people have against the snooze pack. Seems sensible to me. (troll?)

The next step in the journey is a sight-seeing tour of JFK in a plane. I think we must have traveled the maximum distance possible in order to really get a feel for the place. However we do eventually take off...

As soon as were in the air and the seat belt signs come off, theres a run on the bathrooms. One of the passengers has a real go at one of the other passengers for being in there for too long! Ive never seen that before. [:O] The poor lady who was the recipient of the verbal attack got quite upset. She got her own back a couple of minutes later when she went over and banged on the toilet door and walked back to her seat! Haha. As you might expect the man must have been half way through undressing or whatever, and after a delay opens the door to find nobody there. Tee hee. Reality in-flight entertainment! [B)]

K makes my bed which is nice, and not long after brings me my hot chocolate and macaroon. Aww thats nice, shes given me an extra one. Wow those macaroons are nice! Highly recommended.

The rest of the flight is largely uneventful. I lost my revivals lounge card down the side of my seat. Whoops. And we did a tour of LHR before we found our gate. (Some Turkish plane had apparently got stuck.)

Being in 18K, my favourite seat, I was able to exit the aircraft ultra promptly. The staff did a great job of holding back the riff raff and I was on my way to security!

Another first for me: the UK queue for security was not there! There was nobody at all! Not only could I choose which security person to go to, but because there was nobody else around had a nice little chat. Wow.

Found my cases within moments. Excellent. I guess those upper class tags do work, sometimes!

Off to the revivals lounge!! This was brilliant as usual. My lost invite was not a problem. My shower room was waiting for me. I had my shirt pressed for the first time it didnt get ruined! The breakfast was great. My limo driver turned up precisely on time. My journey back was uneventful.

All in all I had a fantastic flight home, with reality in-flight entertainment, great staff (especially K) and super facilities in the clubhouse and revivals lounge.

[y]
#413466 by chrisV
19 Jul 2007, 01:29
Great report, squish cheers!


The best bit is when the cartoon man in the video says ÒIt's really important to give this your full attention, even if you are a seasoned traveler, like me!Ó. It's the way he says Òlike meÓ. Amusing.


[:o)] I love that part too; I think that's a very popular opinion.


Someone should put the video on-line.


See here [;)]


PS I don't think using of names without permission in trip reports is allowed. Perhaps a moderator can help out. See here, 4th paragraph.

Fantastic detailed report though, thanks a lot [y] [y]

EDIT: Those names have gone now...
#413465 by HighFlyer
19 Jul 2007, 01:29
Great trip report Squish! I really enjoyed your writing style.

I'm one of the 'always change before take-off' travellers [:D]

Incidentally, i do have the full .avi of the safety video if you do want to know the ending. Its not that exciting i promise you. [:)]

Thanks,
Sarah
#413468 by mike-smashing
19 Jul 2007, 01:51
Originally posted by squish
Why is it always so hot before you take off? They boil you alive and then freeze you to death after take off. Someone should explain that to me. [xx(]


I've noticed most of the VS 747s blow *very hot* air immediately after engine start. They are the only airline I've noticed do this. The only time I remember this not happening was on G-VBIG.

As soon as we're in the air and the seat belt signs come off, there's a run on the bathrooms. One of the passengers has a real go at one of the other passengers for being in there for too long! I've never seen that before.


VS don't really provide enough toilets for the main deck J cabin. When one lav goes inoperative, then it's a real nightmare.

Real shame they aren't replacing those PE seats either side of #2 galley which no-one really likes, would be ideal place for extra J/W lavs when they do the refit.

Mike
#413471 by ChuckC
19 Jul 2007, 01:59
Squish,
Welcome aboard V-Flyer. By the way I was on your flight and also filed a TR! Where were you seated in the Clubhouse? Might have spotted you. I was near the back, near the window, facing away from the desk.

In the future you can check the itineraries page to learn who may be traveling on the same flight. Very glad to learn that you enjoyed yours, even though that Turkish Airlines plane delayed our arrival on stand at LHR.

Regards,
Chuck-
#413474 by squish
19 Jul 2007, 02:33
chrisV - thanks for the pointer to the video, I enjoyed watching it again :-) I liked the golf ending! I removed the names after honey lamb pointed that this wasn't allowed via private message... doh.

ChuckC - you filed a TR? I did look, and again now, but can't see anything. Perhaps you can provide a link as I'm obviously blind. Itineraries page? Well I never. You learn something new every day.

Thanks others for your comments!

James
#413484 by slinky09
19 Jul 2007, 09:09
Great TR thanks

'A few passengers put on their sleep suits before take off. I always find this completely crazy. I've read in loads of places that the risky part of any flight is take off and landing. If something goes wrong, do you really want to be wearing a flimsy sleep suit and socks? I'll keep my shoes on, thank you very much.'

Totally agree with that - the same reason why I keep my contacts in until the seat belt sign goes off [:p]
#413488 by mike-smashing
19 Jul 2007, 10:29
Thinking about the whole sleep suit on before takeoff thing - it's not just the flimsyness of the sleep suit I'd be worrying about if there was an accident on takeoff or taxi.

The sleep suit is made of polyester, so I'd be concerned about it melting onto my skin if there was a fire on the aircraft while it was on the ground and there was an evacuation.

Some of you may remember some years back, there were flight attendants campaigning for the right to not wear nylons as part of their uniform, after several had their hosiery melt to their legs while evacuating aircraft that were alight.

Mike
#413494 by DMetters-Bone
19 Jul 2007, 11:32
Thanks for a great and very amusing TR! Really glad that the flight went well for you.

I have to say that I am one of those that gets changed before the flight....

Welcome to V-Flyer too.

Dominic
#413499 by NS
19 Jul 2007, 11:54
A great TR - thank you. It seems the whole VS package excelled for you!!

It's also very refreshing to see that recent TR's have mostly been very positive. Are we seeing an improvement in service all of a sudden?
#413500 by ChuckC
19 Jul 2007, 12:05
Originally posted by squish
chrisV - thanks for the pointer to the video, I enjoyed watching it again :-) I liked the golf ending! I removed the names after honey lamb pointed that this wasn't allowed via private message... doh.

ChuckC - you filed a TR? I did look, and again now, but can't see anything. Perhaps you can provide a link as I'm obviously blind. Itineraries page? Well I never. You learn something new every day.

Thanks others for your comments!

James


Sorry, James. Am a bit brain confused today. My TR was for the homebound trip here, although I really was on your flight VS46 as well, sat in 8-K, next to a snoring machine. Anyway, did you see the Itineraries page?

Chuck-
#413506 by mdvipond
19 Jul 2007, 12:29
Originally posted by squish
I ask for a gin and tonic and it's a great gin and tonic (no Gordons, opted for Bombay).

Tanqueray 10! Tanqueray 10!

Nice TR. Thanks.
#413532 by mike-smashing
19 Jul 2007, 15:21
Originally posted by mdvipond
Tanqueray 10! Tanqueray 10!


...another of the reasons some of us fly VS. If they ever took our Number 10 away, how many of us would bail?

Mike
#413586 by buns
19 Jul 2007, 23:04
Squish

A fine first TR[y][y]

Your eloquent powers stand out throughout and it was a great joy to read

The staff did a great job of holding back the riff raff and I was on my way to security!


Chuck - Riff Raff[:w][:w] Well I never[:D][:D]

Thanks once again

buns
#413596 by mysteryflyer
19 Jul 2007, 23:45
Tanq 10 is a delight but its gone from the pre-order brochure. Miserable time was had failing to find it in the US.
#413960 by Virj
23 Jul 2007, 05:09
What? I'm not supposed to wait here and see my bags being scanned? So why did I have to queue up? What is wrong with the belts behind the check-in desks to do this?!?! I just don't get it. I have to queue up in person just to put my bags in another queue?! Huh?


Essencially, yes. TSA regulations require the passenger to present their own checked luggage. Most of the time, though, they'll ask passengers to leave their luggage at a particular point next to the CTX machines if there's a build-up of bags. The belts behind the check-in counters leads directly to the whole baggage system, so scanning is not possible. Unfortunately, Terminal 4 JFK was not built with 100% mandatory baggage screening in mind - that's why those machines are at the sides.

Why wasn't I special enough to have my ticket already printed out and waiting for me?


Hmm. All UC passengers should have their itineraries printed if they're travelling on an E-ticket. Sorry about that - either the agent looking through the stack wasn't thorough enough or the people responsible for printing the itineraries overlooked your name.

Who's heard of an airport terminal without the equivalent of a Boots?


Welcome to JFK's Terminal 4 [:w]

Except that's not quite what happened Ð I go through the gate, down the walkway and turn around a corner to find a massive queue to get on the aircraft. Brilliant. There should be some way of stopping that from happening. Why would I want to wait in a small corridor for 10 minutes?


There is a way - we board by row numbers (back to front) with the exception being UC and PE passengers, who are free to board at their leisure. At least we try to do this - doesn't always work out =
Why is it always so hot before you take off? They boil you alive and then freeze you to death after take off. Someone should explain that to me.


Prior to departure from the gate, the aircraft is connected to a ground power unit, which doesn't always power the air conditioning unit on board... or, rather, powers it poorly. Sorry about the conditions on board, but other very vital systems are usually using most of the power. Just before pushback, the aircraft is switched to its own auxilary power unit, which then powers the aircraft in full, including the air conditioner, but burns quite a bit of fuel. After pushback from the gate, once the engines start running, the aircraft gains power from them and the air conditioner is at full power.

I can't explain why the cabin is kept so cool during the flight, though.
#414016 by napamatt
23 Jul 2007, 20:36
Isn't in flight cabin temperature cool in upper and other first's because otherwise the poor plebs at the back would be dying of heat stroke. That was the explanation I have heard.
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