This area is set aside for off-topic discussion. Everything that's absolutely nothing to do with travel at all... But please, keep it polite! Forum netiquette rules still apply.
#254680 by pjh
03 Jun 2008, 00:15
I promised a while ago that I'd post a review of Bruce's concert in Manchester, so here goes...Ah one two three four...

The omens were not good. We'd (errr...I'd) managed to leave the other half's bag with all her road trip clothes in at home, someone in the hotel had pilfered things out of the remaining bags, the Metrolink trams out to Old Trafford were rammed and it was raining. That Manchester rain that Peter Kay talks about..really wet rain.

Things started to look up though. We abandoned the tram and picked up a taxi, the driver of which switched off his meter as we waited around Old Trafford as he said it wasn't fair that we should pay to wait. Once in, I managed to get a couple of beers without too much trouble. Our seats were face on the to the stage. The rain started to ease off a bit.

My experience of shows in football stadiums (stadia?) is that unless (a) you're down the front with the seething mob or (b) the act knows how to project right to the back of the arena you're not going to get the full live experience. Here I'm not talking of admiring the precision of a someone like (say) The Eagles, but that feeling of expectancy as a song begins and that lift and rush as you're carried along to the climax. Here we weren't in the seething mob - something the other half said she regretted in terms of her ticket choice the moment the first song began - and had a lot of dead space in front of us where those standing on the pitch had crowded forward. Springsteen is, however, a master performer. His isn't the jaw dropping spectacle as I saw at a Dave Gilmour show a couple of years back, but rather the product of a showman who knows how to work the crowd. Starting with music from a calliope sets the tone, then the video screens kick in not with a shot of the band arriving on stage but with the 'Theatre of Dreams' signs. Throughout the show he's in constant motion, either down at the front singing to those who'd bagged the best spots or using the cameras and video screens to sing directly to those of us further away.

It's true that the images and poses have a familiarity; the camera shot from the back of the stage, showing the crowd; the leaning into the mike with Miama Steve;the launching of the guitar over the shoulder for the roadie to catch (he didn't). This didn't make it mechanical and fomulaic, but rather a platform from which he and the band could take flight knowing that there was somewhere dependable to which to return. At various points in the show he took the signs from the crowd bearing the titles of requests, and worked them into the set, propping the sign up by the mike as he did so; there's an image of the handwritten setlist up on his website, and there were evidently substitions. 'It's Hard to Be A Saint In The City', 'Growing Up' and 'Rosalita' were thrown in this way.

Sometimes he gets it a touch wrong. Despite his announced briefing from his soccer mad son he wasn't perhaps quite as aware as he should have been that not everyone in that stadium was necessarily a fan of the home team. The setlist dipped a couple of times too; 'Magic' and 'Devil's Arcade' weren't particularly potent contributions to the set, and 'It's Hard to Be A Saint In The City' with it's over complex arrangement, though popular with the hardcore fans, didn't really win over the larger crowd. He wasn't, however, relying to a 'greatest hits' set to win that larger crowd over and didn't need to do so; I doubt 'Adam Raised A Cain'', 'She's The One' (I've waited 25 years to hear that live) and 'Trapped' feature in many people's top 10 Springsteen lists, but here they were greeted with the enthusiasm that their performances deserved.

What is it about Springsteen that warms the cockles of my heart and brought so many middle aged men and women to their feet punching the air along to 'Badlands'? Lord knows my experience of barefoot girls sitting on the hood of a Dodge drinking warm beer in the soft summer rain is limited. Perhaps the 'Theatre of Dreams' at the beginning gives a clue; perhaps it's the desire to be in what does still seem to be a gang on stage (though without Patti who's 'home stopping the kids setting fire to the house and selling my clothes on eBay'). Whatever, for me it's uplifting, energising and life affirming.

Set list:

No Surrender
Radio Nowhere
Night
Lonesome Day
The Promised Land
Magic
Trapped
Adam Raised A Cain
Darlington County
It's Hard To Be A Saint In The City
Because The Night
She's The One
Livin' In The Future
Mary's Place
I'll Work For Your Love
Devil's Arcade
The Rising
Last To Die
Long Walk Home
Badlands

Growin' Up
Tenth Avenue Freeze-Out
Born To Run
Rosalita
Dancing In The Dark
American Land
#444728 by billybob
03 Jun 2008, 08:34
Pjh

thanks for posting that, it was a great review and I wished I could have been there! Having seen Bruce a couple of times back in the 1980s I really was put off from going in case he wasn't as good but seems he still has that magic. Worth it for me to hear him play Born to Run which live in a stadium has got to be one of the best of those 'life affirming' moments!

You write really well, better than many so called critics we read in newspapers nowadays! Thanks once again,

One of those Middle Aged Women!
#684728 by billybob
03 Jun 2008, 08:34
Pjh

thanks for posting that, it was a great review and I wished I could have been there! Having seen Bruce a couple of times back in the 1980s I really was put off from going in case he wasn't as good but seems he still has that magic. Worth it for me to hear him play Born to Run which live in a stadium has got to be one of the best of those 'life affirming' moments!

You write really well, better than many so called critics we read in newspapers nowadays! Thanks once again,

One of those Middle Aged Women!
#444734 by pjh
03 Jun 2008, 09:32
Originally posted by billybob

One of those Middle Aged Women!


BB

Oops. [:I] Perhaps I should have said 'so many of we middle aged men and women'.

From the far side of 50...

Paul
#684734 by pjh
03 Jun 2008, 09:32
Originally posted by billybob

One of those Middle Aged Women!


BB

Oops. [:I] Perhaps I should have said 'so many of we middle aged men and women'.

From the far side of 50...

Paul
#444736 by honey lamb
03 Jun 2008, 09:36
Originally posted by pjh
Originally posted by billybob

One of those Middle Aged Women!


BB

Oops. [:I] Perhaps I should have said 'so many of we middle aged men and women'.

From the far side of 50...

Paul



No, you should have said 'so many of us middle aged men and women'
#684736 by honey lamb
03 Jun 2008, 09:36
Originally posted by pjh
Originally posted by billybob

One of those Middle Aged Women!


BB

Oops. [:I] Perhaps I should have said 'so many of we middle aged men and women'.

From the far side of 50...

Paul



No, you should have said 'so many of us middle aged men and women'
#444737 by pjh
03 Jun 2008, 09:55
Originally posted by honey lamb
No, you should have said 'so many of us middle aged men and women'


Damn. Not my day is it. And I hear there's water flooding through the ceiling at home....
#684737 by pjh
03 Jun 2008, 09:55
Originally posted by honey lamb
No, you should have said 'so many of us middle aged men and women'


Damn. Not my day is it. And I hear there's water flooding through the ceiling at home....
#444818 by Nottingham Nick
03 Jun 2008, 21:54
Great review, Paul - many thanks. [y]

A mate of mine who has seen him more times that he cares to think about says that the concert was great, but not one of his best - he put it down to too few days rest after the excesses of Dublin.

He also thought the stadium did little for the acoustics.

Pity I missed Growin' Up - always a great song live.

I don't think there will be too many tours with E Street Band. Given Danny's passing it may even be the last one.

Nick
#684818 by Nottingham Nick
03 Jun 2008, 21:54
Great review, Paul - many thanks. [y]

A mate of mine who has seen him more times that he cares to think about says that the concert was great, but not one of his best - he put it down to too few days rest after the excesses of Dublin.

He also thought the stadium did little for the acoustics.

Pity I missed Growin' Up - always a great song live.

I don't think there will be too many tours with E Street Band. Given Danny's passing it may even be the last one.

Nick
#444843 by Moonraker
03 Jun 2008, 23:15
Paul,

Thanks for a great review [y]

Mme.F & I will get to see Bruce in Cardiff at the end of next week. Hopefully it will be a great night, but stadium concerts do seem to vary enormously, regardless of the artiste.

Ron
#684843 by Moonraker
03 Jun 2008, 23:15
Paul,

Thanks for a great review [y]

Mme.F & I will get to see Bruce in Cardiff at the end of next week. Hopefully it will be a great night, but stadium concerts do seem to vary enormously, regardless of the artiste.

Ron
#444881 by pjh
04 Jun 2008, 09:53
Originally posted by Nottingham Nick

He also thought the stadium did little for the acoustics.


Just outside the stadium I heard the same complaint - 'we had better sound at the village fete' (said in a broad lancashire accent). Where we were sat the instrumental sound was good, but some of the vocals and chat got lost.

While looking on his site for the set list I saw that on one night of the tour he'd played the complete 'Darkness On The Edge of Town' and 'Born To Run' albums back to back.

Originally posted by Moonraker
Mme.F & I will get to see Bruce in Cardiff at the end of next week. Hopefully it will be a great night, but stadium concerts do seem to vary enormously, regardless of the artiste.


Put on your dancing shoes and enjoy...like Nick's mate I'd love to have the opportunity to a number of shows back to back. You know you're going to hear different setlists...

Paul
#684881 by pjh
04 Jun 2008, 09:53
Originally posted by Nottingham Nick

He also thought the stadium did little for the acoustics.


Just outside the stadium I heard the same complaint - 'we had better sound at the village fete' (said in a broad lancashire accent). Where we were sat the instrumental sound was good, but some of the vocals and chat got lost.

While looking on his site for the set list I saw that on one night of the tour he'd played the complete 'Darkness On The Edge of Town' and 'Born To Run' albums back to back.

Originally posted by Moonraker
Mme.F & I will get to see Bruce in Cardiff at the end of next week. Hopefully it will be a great night, but stadium concerts do seem to vary enormously, regardless of the artiste.


Put on your dancing shoes and enjoy...like Nick's mate I'd love to have the opportunity to a number of shows back to back. You know you're going to hear different setlists...

Paul
#444892 by Moonraker
04 Jun 2008, 12:00
Originally posted by pjh


Put on your dancing shoes and enjoy...like Nick's mate I'd love to have the opportunity to a number of shows back to back. You know you're going to hear different setlists...

Paul
[/quote]

On their Seeger Sessions tour we saw them at the NEC on the Thursday & then again at Wembley Arena on the Saturday.

A considerable difference in feel between the two concerts, even though the setlists were broadly similar.

We've seen this current tour indoors, at the Odyssey Arena in Belfast, & if Cardiff comes even close to that then we'll be very content.

Ron & Mme.F ( who are both wondering whether middle age stops when the ages cease to start with a 5.... )[?]
#684892 by Moonraker
04 Jun 2008, 12:00
Originally posted by pjh


Put on your dancing shoes and enjoy...like Nick's mate I'd love to have the opportunity to a number of shows back to back. You know you're going to hear different setlists...

Paul
[/quote]

On their Seeger Sessions tour we saw them at the NEC on the Thursday & then again at Wembley Arena on the Saturday.

A considerable difference in feel between the two concerts, even though the setlists were broadly similar.

We've seen this current tour indoors, at the Odyssey Arena in Belfast, & if Cardiff comes even close to that then we'll be very content.

Ron & Mme.F ( who are both wondering whether middle age stops when the ages cease to start with a 5.... )[?]
Virgin Atlantic

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

Itinerary Calendar