Why does wine???

Contain Sulphates?

As I am well into my 2nd bottle after the BBQ held on my veranda and now watching the sun going down this has just popped into my head.

Is this the nasties that give you a hangover in the middle of the night[:(]

For the experts it is a 2005 Chai de Bordes Bordeaux from the Maison Cheval Quancard bottle number 12711.[:?]About 15Euro in FRA Duty Free

Iain

Sulphates, more specifically sulphur dioxide, are both a by product of fermentation as well as an additive to help preserve wine (by combatting oxidation of the wine). Since they are naturally occurring in the wine making process it is difficult to totally eradicate them, and since they perform a very useful job often small additional amounts are added.

According to my excellent Jancis Robinson edited Oxford Companion to Wine, the reason they are noted on the bottle is due to pressure from some countries arising from a perceived risk to asthmatics (although the evidence suggests that dosages would need to leaps higher to have any effect).

As for thick head in the night syndrome, sulphates are probably not the cause, more likely to be dehydration and the effects of tannins in wine.

PS, is that bottle number 12,711 drunk at the barbecue? [oo]

Sulphates, more specifically sulphur dioxide, are both a by product of fermentation as well as an additive to help preserve wine (by combatting oxidation of the wine). Since they are naturally occurring in the wine making process it is difficult to totally eradicate them, and since they perform a very useful job often small additional amounts are added.

According to my excellent Jancis Robinson edited Oxford Companion to Wine, the reason they are noted on the bottle is due to pressure from some countries arising from a perceived risk to asthmatics (although the evidence suggests that dosages would need to leaps higher to have any effect).

As for thick head in the night syndrome, sulphates are probably not the cause, more likely to be dehydration and the effects of tannins in wine.

PS, is that bottle number 12,711 drunk at the barbecue? [oo]

Slinky.

Thanks for the most precise explanation[y]

Dehydration could be the factor (+37C today) as well as the 6 beers before the wine and now on to the whisky and ginger ale[:w]

School tomorrow as well[:#]

Iain

Slinky.

Thanks for the most precise explanation[y]

Dehydration could be the factor (+37C today) as well as the 6 beers before the wine and now on to the whisky and ginger ale[:w]

School tomorrow as well[:#]

Iain

Originally posted by iforres1
Contain Sulphates?

As I am well into my 2nd bottle after the BBQ held on my veranda and now watching the sun going down this has just popped into my head.

Is this the nasties that give you a hangover in the middle of the night[:(]

For the experts it is a 2005 Chai de Bordes Bordeaux from the Maison Cheval Quancard bottle number 12711.[:?]About 15Euro in FRA Duty Free

Iain

Wine's great!

Originally posted by iforres1
Contain Sulphates?

As I am well into my 2nd bottle after the BBQ held on my veranda and now watching the sun going down this has just popped into my head.

Is this the nasties that give you a hangover in the middle of the night[:(]

For the experts it is a 2005 Chai de Bordes Bordeaux from the Maison Cheval Quancard bottle number 12711.[:?]About 15Euro in FRA Duty Free

Iain

Wine's great!

Howard,

I was hoping you would say that[:)]

It is indeed very nice. I will pick up a few more more on my next trip back thru FRA on the 9/8.

Iain

Howard,

I was hoping you would say that[:)]

It is indeed very nice. I will pick up a few more more on my next trip back thru FRA on the 9/8.

Iain

Originally posted by Howard Long
Wine's great!

Yeah, that's what I am telling myself after trying to fit six more cases into the house after a week of tasting in St Emilion, Pomerol and Cognac (note before I left I had seven cases brought out of reserves at The Wine Society including some lovely Rhone 2000s and superb Gewurzes)! I think I need a wine butler to do all this for me ... and a bigger house, anyone got any ideas?

Originally posted by Howard Long
Wine's great!

Yeah, that's what I am telling myself after trying to fit six more cases into the house after a week of tasting in St Emilion, Pomerol and Cognac (note before I left I had seven cases brought out of reserves at The Wine Society including some lovely Rhone 2000s and superb Gewurzes)! I think I need a wine butler to do all this for me ... and a bigger house, anyone got any ideas?

While we are on the subject of wine.....

I understand that dried powdered sturgeon swim bladder is used to clear wine. No problem with that - but how on earth did anyone discover that it could be used for that???

I can just see the conversation 'I know, lets cut this fish open, remove its' swim bladder, dry it, grind it up and then add it to some wine to see what happens. I just have this suspicion it might help clear it!'....

Any ideas?

Ian[?][?]

While we are on the subject of wine.....

I understand that dried powdered sturgeon swim bladder is used to clear wine. No problem with that - but how on earth did anyone discover that it could be used for that???

I can just see the conversation 'I know, lets cut this fish open, remove its' swim bladder, dry it, grind it up and then add it to some wine to see what happens. I just have this suspicion it might help clear it!'....

Any ideas?

Ian[?][?]

Originally posted by Flyoilybird
While we are on the subject of wine.....

I understand that dried powdered sturgeon swim bladder is used to clear wine. No problem with that - but how on earth did anyone discover that it could be used for that???

I can just see the conversation 'I know, lets cut this fish open, remove its' swim bladder, dry it, grind it up and then add it to some wine to see what happens. I just have this suspicion it might help clear it!'....

Any ideas?

Ian[?][?]

A Virgin dried powdered sturgeon swim bladder of course. Otherwise, no.

H

Originally posted by Flyoilybird
While we are on the subject of wine.....

I understand that dried powdered sturgeon swim bladder is used to clear wine. No problem with that - but how on earth did anyone discover that it could be used for that???

I can just see the conversation 'I know, lets cut this fish open, remove its' swim bladder, dry it, grind it up and then add it to some wine to see what happens. I just have this suspicion it might help clear it!'....

Any ideas?

Ian[?][?]

A Virgin dried powdered sturgeon swim bladder of course. Otherwise, no.

H

But only Virgin sturgeon for very fine ..... wines?

But only Virgin sturgeon for very fine ..... wines?

I note, your 'thick-head' the morning after also likely from the 'grape & grain mix' (the two should not meet on the same night, as headaches generally come to spoil the party!)

I note, your 'thick-head' the morning after also likely from the 'grape & grain mix' (the two should not meet on the same night, as headaches generally come to spoil the party!)

Wine's great!

My head doesn't think so this morning.

Wine's great!

My head doesn't think so this morning.